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neophool · 12-31-2004, 01:03 AM

Ok, i just got soundforge and was EQing and normalizing some practice sessions. nothing big. so i spent all day just trying to get practices over the course of a year to sound decent and somewhat alike. sometime, the bass player was barely audible. other times, the hi hats seemed like they were right next to the mics (we recorded pratices with a DAT and a little stereo condenser mic)

so i EQed them, hit "ok", saw the little bar go up to 100% and did some toher stuff. "Saved All" and then burned them onto CD.

So i play them in Windows media player and they sound like crap - not as loud as the file being played in Soundforge. Then i notice that they don't have any of the EQ or compression work!

To check, i import them from the CD into SOundforge and look at the waves, and sure enough, they are the original waves, unaltered. what did i do wrong??? this is my first time, so it's probabl something obvious, but i thought i did everything right....

1) hit "ok" in the EQ windows, and saw the file being altered, the waves changing, etc.
2) saved all the files
3) burned the CD. first off, Nero wouldn't burn it, some kind of DOA error or something i didn't understand, so i used ASHMAPOO. there wasn't any normalizing feature on that app, so i don't think the CD burning app had anything to do with it. plus, the waves on the CD are identical to the original source CDs.

any help would be appreciated!

-neophool

Blue Bear Sound · 12-31-2004, 03:34 AM

Definitely user-error.....

Sounds like you either saved them to another location, or you only previewed the processing changes and didn't actually apply them.......

I use SF all the time and I've never experienced anything like you describe as a fault of the program.

TimOBrien · 12-31-2004, 07:47 AM

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So i play them in Windows media player and they sound like crap.....

Did you convert them to 16bit/44.1khz in SF before you burned the CD or did you forget and let the CD burning program do it for you??? (They are not written for high quality and will do a crap job of it...)

neophool · 12-31-2004, 12:46 PM

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Did you convert them to 16bit/44.1khz in SF before you burned the CD or did you forget and let the CD burning program do it for you??? (They are not written for high quality and will do a crap job of it...)

that might be it, i'll look into it...i was wondering if the CD burning app did something to them.

neophool · 12-31-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Blue Bear Sound
Definitely user-error.....

Sounds like you either saved them to another location, or you only previewed the processing changes and didn't actually apply them.......

I use SF all the time and I've never experienced anything like you describe as a fault of the program.

i've got the right files, and i did preview the effects, but then hit "ok" and saw the little box go up to 100% saying "sony eq" or "sony soundhammer" and the waves changed and sounded different like the preview. then i saved all the files and tried to burn them. i'm cornfused!

SamHell · 12-31-2004, 06:50 PM

You burnt the original files rather than the ones you saved. Rather than "save" do "save as" then add a name or a dash number or something. That way when you look for them to burn, youll get the right ones.

OneArmedScissors · 12-31-2004, 08:30 PM

You could have done what Sam just said, but you may have saved what you were working on as project files, which you thought was altering the audio tracks you were importing to edit, but does not. If you did that, then when you burned those tracks to a CD, they were just the originals, like Sam said.

Did you ever actually export your finished project files as waves or something?

12-31-2004, 01:03 AM	#1
neophool Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 191	Soundforge help!!! Ok, i just got soundforge and was EQing and normalizing some practice sessions. nothing big. so i spent all day just trying to get practices over the course of a year to sound decent and somewhat alike. sometime, the bass player was barely audible. other times, the hi hats seemed like they were right next to the mics (we recorded pratices with a DAT and a little stereo condenser mic) so i EQed them, hit "ok", saw the little bar go up to 100% and did some toher stuff. "Saved All" and then burned them onto CD. So i play them in Windows media player and they sound like crap - not as loud as the file being played in Soundforge. Then i notice that they don't have any of the EQ or compression work! To check, i import them from the CD into SOundforge and look at the waves, and sure enough, they are the original waves, unaltered. what did i do wrong??? this is my first time, so it's probabl something obvious, but i thought i did everything right.... 1) hit "ok" in the EQ windows, and saw the file being altered, the waves changing, etc. 2) saved all the files 3) burned the CD. first off, Nero wouldn't burn it, some kind of DOA error or something i didn't understand, so i used ASHMAPOO. there wasn't any normalizing feature on that app, so i don't think the CD burning app had anything to do with it. plus, the waves on the CD are identical to the original source CDs. any help would be appreciated! -neophool Last edited by neophool : 12-31-2004 at 02:14 AM.

12-31-2004, 03:34 AM	#2
Blue Bear Sound Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 4,162	Definitely user-error..... Sounds like you either saved them to another location, or you only previewed the processing changes and didn't actually apply them....... I use SF all the time and I've never experienced anything like you describe as a fault of the program. __________________ bruce valeriani - mix engineer recording articles blue bear sound recording studios There are 2 components to Audio Engineering - The first is understanding signal flow... the second is all about what you hear...

12-31-2004, 08:30 PM	#7
OneArmedScissors Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just north of San Antonio, Texas Posts: 9,871	You could have done what Sam just said, but you may have saved what you were working on as project files, which you thought was altering the audio tracks you were importing to edit, but does not. If you did that, then when you burned those tracks to a CD, they were just the originals, like Sam said. Did you ever actually export your finished project files as waves or something? Last edited by OneArmedScissors : 12-31-2004 at 08:32 PM.

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12-31-2004, 06:50 PM	#6
SamHell Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 16	You burnt the original files rather than the ones you saved. Rather than "save" do "save as" then add a name or a dash number or something. That way when you look for them to burn, youll get the right ones.