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jeremy_green · 11-22-2007, 02:38 PM

Hey all, Anybody know a good spot to get an SG tremolo system? Or better yet have one for sale? I would like to put one on my SG and cant find one anywhere, this is harder than I thought it would be!!

Thanks

bigfatmonkeyboy · 11-22-2007, 02:39 PM

didn't you just post this thread

TheKinks · 11-22-2007, 02:42 PM

http://www.allparts.com/store/tailpi...01,Product.asp

soups41 · 11-22-2007, 02:45 PM

there are a number of vibrolas you can put on an SG. The one above is like the Gibson stock vibrola, only without the engraving. Gibson will not sell the Gibson vibrola by itself. You can also put on a Bigsby which has come on some SGs as well. The recommended Bigsby is the B5

jeremy_green · 11-23-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfatmonkeyboy

didn't you just post this thread

thanks for your input

jeremy_green · 11-23-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soups41

there are a number of vibrolas you can put on an SG. The one above is like the Gibson stock vibrola, only without the engraving. Gibson will not sell the Gibson vibrola by itself. You can also put on a Bigsby which has come on some SGs as well. The recommended Bigsby is the B5

Yeah I was thinking of the Bigsby ... by all accounts it is a better system anyway. My only issue with either of them is putting it on after the fact. I dont want to mess around with permanent changes to the guitar. Do you know if the Bigsbys go on cleanly and cover the bridge thread holes?

g400man · 11-23-2007, 02:18 PM

All Parts.com got the long nickel one like Angus Young or the short nickel one you see on the old SG specials from the sixties. theyre like $160-180 bucks a pop though. Ebay has them floating around every once and while for about 120

Wyatt · 11-23-2007, 02:24 PM

Both trems require screwing into the face of the guitar, so both will require permanent holes.

The Bigsby does not cover the bridge holes. A well placed B5 on an SG goes a good ways behind where the bridge is now.

The Gibson Maestro style vibrato sucks, bend on string, the whole thing may go out of tune.

Non-permanent solutions are the Stets Bar, Bowen Handle and Les Trem.

mrperson · 11-23-2007, 02:36 PM

i'd say go with a stets bar they're expensive but they're really good

and i have a maestro on a sg and i hate the thing looks great but just breaks string if u ever try and use the bar plus its impossible to fit it in a normal guitar case with the bar on

spennrocks · 11-23-2007, 02:38 PM

theres an orville sg with a vibrola listed in the spam.

's mel gibson · 11-23-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy_green

Yeah I was thinking of the Bigsby ... by all accounts it is a better system anyway. My only issue with either of them is putting it on after the fact. I dont want to mess around with permanent changes to the guitar. Do you know if the Bigsbys go on cleanly and cover the bridge thread holes?

The old thread holes are still visible with the new Bigsby installed. What Gibson has done is cover those holes with their 'Custom Made' plaque.

Like on the new Canadian ES335 w/Bigsby.

Gibson did at one time install Kahler Trems on SG's.
The new routed hole is small and hidden by the Kahler unit.

I myself love the looks of Maestro's and Bigsby's even tho' they don't dive bomb. You musst be gentle and subtle with them or they will go out of tune.

Or don't use them. Just fold the arm out of the way. Like Keith Richards or even Elliot Easton. His sig model has the long Maestro. He doesn't use it, just likes the looks of it.

"Bling!!!"

wedgehed II · 11-23-2007, 03:10 PM

How about a LesTrem?

jeremy_green · 11-25-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wedgehed II

How about a LesTrem?

That looks great I just looked online for one and none of the ones I saw for purchase had the old gibson style tremolo arm you have in your pics? Looks very cool.

's mel gibson · 11-25-2007, 02:45 PM

I actually am beginning to get intersted in them.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,..._Tremolos.html
Les Trem Stop-Tailpiece Tremolo
The Les Trem is a high quality spring-tension tremolo for Les Paul® and other guitars with a Gibson style post-mounted stop tailpiece. The unit is easy to install in the guitar's tailpiece post bushings, without woodworking. The arm pivots the hinged rear string-mounting bar to sharpen or flatten the strings approximately one-half step.

See details below
Les Trem Stop-Tailpiece Tremolo
Item# Description In stock Price Quantity
4616 Chrome 1+ month $135.00
3 or more $122.85
4616-G Gold Yes $152.00
3 or more $138.30
Select currency $ £ € ¥ Learn more Quantity prices apply to multiples of the same item number

wedgehed II · 11-25-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy_green

That looks great I just looked online for one and none of the ones I saw for purchase had the old gibson style tremolo arm you have in your pics? Looks very cool.

The first LesTrem I bought had a flat arm.

The 2nd one I purchased had one like this. I thought this was an improvement.

I replaced both with Gibson style handles just because I think they look cool.

Fuzzwah Humbuck · 11-25-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wedgehed II

The first LesTrem I bought had a flat arm...

I replaced both with Gibson style handles just because I think they look cool.

If I may ask, where did you acquire the Gibson style handles?

wedgehed II · 11-25-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzwah Humbuck

If I may ask, where did you acquire the Gibson style handles?

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/trem_gibson.htm

http://www.allparts.com/store/bridge...01,Product.asp

Fuzzwah Humbuck · 11-25-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedgehed II

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/trem_gibson.htm

http://www.allparts.com/store/bridge...01,Product.asp

Thanks!

jeremy_green · 11-26-2007, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedgehed II

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/trem_gibson.htm

http://www.allparts.com/store/bridge...01,Product.asp

Did you have to cut the new Gibson style arm to install it? It looks like the round part at the bottom would be an issue fitting into the Les Trem unit?

Wyatt · 11-26-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy_green

Did you have to cut the new Gibson style arm to install it? It looks like the round part at the bottom would be an issue fitting into the Les Trem unit?

Uh, that's sorta where the bolt goes through to hold it on. Tere is another bolt hold on the Les Trem hold the stock arm on.

One word of advice, don't use the yellow rubber spacer that is design to go between the spring and guitar finish on a real Gibson, it's the same rubber that will stain a Gibson nitro finish as it deteriorates.

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soups41 Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 739	there are a number of vibrolas you can put on an SG. The one above is like the Gibson stock vibrola, only without the engraving. Gibson will not sell the Gibson vibrola by itself. You can also put on a Bigsby which has come on some SGs as well. The recommended Bigsby is the B5 __________________ Member of the SG Army

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Wyatt Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Posts: 8,097	Both trems require screwing into the face of the guitar, so both will require permanent holes. The Bigsby does not cover the bridge holes. A well placed B5 on an SG goes a good ways behind where the bridge is now. The Gibson Maestro style vibrato sucks, bend on string, the whole thing may go out of tune. Non-permanent solutions are the Stets Bar, Bowen Handle and Les Trem. Last edited by Wyatt : 11-23-2007 at 02:39 PM.

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mrperson Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: england not the us Posts: 835	i'd say go with a stets bar they're expensive but they're really good and i have a maestro on a sg and i hate the thing looks great but just breaks string if u ever try and use the bar plus its impossible to fit it in a normal guitar case with the bar on __________________ Yes I play guitar

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spennrocks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,086	theres an orville sg with a vibrola listed in the spam.

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's mel gibson Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Can. Posts: 4,524	I actually am beginning to get intersted in them. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,..._Tremolos.html Les Trem Stop-Tailpiece Tremolo The Les Trem is a high quality spring-tension tremolo for Les Paul® and other guitars with a Gibson style post-mounted stop tailpiece. The unit is easy to install in the guitar's tailpiece post bushings, without woodworking. The arm pivots the hinged rear string-mounting bar to sharpen or flatten the strings approximately one-half step. See details below Les Trem Stop-Tailpiece Tremolo Item# Description In stock Price Quantity 4616 Chrome 1+ month $135.00 3 or more $122.85 4616-G Gold Yes $152.00 3 or more $138.30 Select currency $ £ € ¥ Learn more Quantity prices apply to multiples of the same item number

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