The POD can sound pretty huge - Harmony Central Musician Community Forums

ieso · 07-29-2007, 11:24 PM

I use my Bogner Shiva for a lot of tracking but sometimes the POD does the trick pretty well considering it's all software

just guitar and drums

no bass instruments except for the kick

http://negation.hoster905.com/negati...so/HugeEgo.mp3

Not bad?

dcooper830 · 07-29-2007, 11:50 PM

Sounds great! Were you using a POD 2.0? Or a POD XT?

ieso · 07-30-2007, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dcooper830

Sounds great! Were you using a POD 2.0? Or a POD XT?

Thanks!

It's a PODxT

I bought the Gear Box plug-ins too so I've been experimenting with recording using my amp and then re-amping with the pod. That way you can bypass the converters in the pod for a better sound...but this little piece was just done with the pod on its own

ToasterOven · 07-30-2007, 05:52 AM

Love the chord progression. Great use of dissonance. POD sounds great too.

Cardinal of Crunk · 07-30-2007, 06:16 AM

what guitar and amp model please??

jhall · 07-30-2007, 06:17 AM

Oh my god so digital!!

It was like being pummelled by ones and zeros untill my ears were bleeding. And did you hear all that .... f,f,f,f FIZZ???
I had to stick my tongue in a light socket to stop the pain

No really great clip and I really am sold on modelling. I have the XT the TonePort UX2 and mant Tube amps and vintage effects. What do I mostely use? My TonePort.
KUDOS DUDE!!

Cardinal of Crunk · 07-30-2007, 06:21 AM

PODs are really, really good if you know how to use them. I use the recto models most of the time, and I need to back off of the gain and bass considerably, then record about four tracks of guitar, it sounds huge.

ieso · 07-30-2007, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

Love the chord progression. Great use of dissonance. POD sounds great too.

Thanks, I was kinda inspired by Vernon Reid on this one.

ieso · 07-30-2007, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zygoat

what guitar and amp model please??

That's a custom guitar with a SD Lil' 59 bridge pup

Models: can't recall exactly but there were five different patches. Three had some distortion and two were clean. I know there was a Marshall on the left and a Twin in there somewhere. I think it was the Uberschall up the middle.

V-Type · 07-30-2007, 06:53 AM

The Xt is quite amazing. Ive had it from day one and with all the Model packs and latest upgrades it seems that it is almost like a poor mans million dollar guitar rig studio. With VG head phones or the right power amp these can fool even the most seasoned tube snob(btw I use and love tubes also.).
There are so many options what with pre and posting of effects as well as mic spacing,cabs, 70 plus amp models and some pretty darn close ala Marshalls,Bogner,Diezel,5150 etc...
And they havent retired it yet so more amps and updates are sure too come and one of the reasons I went with Line6 over other modeers.
The stomps in front of amp models is the key IMO as well as using the Roatary
Leslie model as a tone fattener rather than delay or chorus. And use a bit less gain than you would normally when recording as it makes all the difference between a swarm of bees and that gainy brown sound.

And nice sounding clip. Settings?

ieso · 07-30-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zygoat

PODs are really, really good if you know how to use them. I use the recto models most of the time, and I need to back off of the gain and bass considerably, then record about four tracks of guitar, it sounds huge.

Yeah, turn down the gain on all the patches, I agree.

I think it was like this:

Uberschall crunch up the middle (no effects)
Marshall JTM on the left with a splash of verb
Soldano on the right with some delay
Fender Twin at left-center with chorus
Fender Deluxe at right-center with tape echo

use a high pass filter to roll off any mud that builds up in the low mids

onbongos · 07-30-2007, 08:55 AM

dungens record was pod

sheepeH · 07-30-2007, 09:05 AM

that recording is great
about the dissonance +1

roygbiv · 07-30-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by onbongos

dungens record was pod

The newest one?

onbongos · 07-30-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by roygbiv

The newest one?

no ta det lungt

Bmajor · 07-30-2007, 09:37 AM

Nice clip.

I am really intrigued by your use of dissonance.

Would you mind sharing the chord progressions?

(Ain't gonna steal it, just trying to learn more about using dissonance properly)

ieso · 07-30-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmajor

Nice clip.

I am really intrigued by your use of dissonance.

Would you mind sharing the chord progressions?

(Ain't gonna steal it, just trying to learn more about using dissonance properly)

thanks,

I don't have my guitar in front of me at the moment. However, in general I think about dissonance in terms of playing two different dyads or triads against each other. For example, the two opening chords are a Dbmaj triad with a D/A dyad in the bottom and then resolve it to a D power chord.

The study of tetrachords (not actually chords) is a good place to begin. You might take a look at the resource archive at http://www.gtroblq.com as I have a lot of lessons locked up there that would get you a long way along on this road.

Attila · 07-30-2007, 11:19 AM

Reuben · 07-30-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ieso

thanks,

I don't have my guitar in front of me at the moment. However, in general I think about dissonance in terms of playing two different dyads or triads against each other. For example, the two opening chords are a Dbmaj triad with a D/A dyad in the bottom and then resolve it to a D power chord.

The study of tetrachords (not actually chords) is a good place to begin. You might take a look at the resource archive at http://www.gtroblq.com as I have a lot of lessons locked up there that would get you a long way along on this road.

Sounded Great! How many guitar tracks did you lay down?

Also that chord you played could also be called an A Maj 11(b13).

ieso · 07-30-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reuben

Sounded Great! How many guitar tracks did you lay down?

Also that chord you played could also be called an A Maj 11(b13).

Yeah, so many inversions and ways to think about note constellations.

There are five guitar tracks in this thing.

Marco Oppedisano added a solo to this piece not too long ago (it's on one of my MySpace pages) and I need to go back, now, and add in some bass and maybe some synth pads.

Thanks!

07-29-2007, 11:24 PM	#1
ieso Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 480	The POD can sound pretty huge I use my Bogner Shiva for a lot of tracking but sometimes the POD does the trick pretty well considering it's all software just guitar and drums no bass instruments except for the kick http://negation.hoster905.com/negati...so/HugeEgo.mp3 Not bad? __________________ http://psychopompos.org http://www.reverbnation.com/infiniteego http://www.myspace.com/infiniteegosavioronasis Last edited by ieso : 07-30-2007 at 08:47 AM.

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07-30-2007, 06:17 AM	#6
jhall Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Long Island,ny Posts: 3,300	Oh my god so digital!! It was like being pummelled by ones and zeros untill my ears were bleeding. And did you hear all that .... f,f,f,f FIZZ??? I had to stick my tongue in a light socket to stop the pain No really great clip and I really am sold on modelling. I have the XT the TonePort UX2 and mant Tube amps and vintage effects. What do I mostely use? My TonePort. KUDOS DUDE!! __________________ If only I was all thumbs

07-30-2007, 06:53 AM	#10
V-Type Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gibraltar,Michigan Posts: 7,361	The Xt is quite amazing. Ive had it from day one and with all the Model packs and latest upgrades it seems that it is almost like a poor mans million dollar guitar rig studio. With VG head phones or the right power amp these can fool even the most seasoned tube snob(btw I use and love tubes also.). There are so many options what with pre and posting of effects as well as mic spacing,cabs, 70 plus amp models and some pretty darn close ala Marshalls,Bogner,Diezel,5150 etc... And they havent retired it yet so more amps and updates are sure too come and one of the reasons I went with Line6 over other modeers. The stomps in front of amp models is the key IMO as well as using the Roatary Leslie model as a tone fattener rather than delay or chorus. And use a bit less gain than you would normally when recording as it makes all the difference between a swarm of bees and that gainy brown sound. And nice sounding clip. Settings? __________________ Epiphone Les Paul Custom - (Custom Custom/APII) Peavey V-Type LTD - (Super Distortion/Air Norton) Laney GH50L Crate V33 2x12 Line 6 Flextone III+ 1x12 Peavey 4x12 _____________________ The Laney Posse The Epiphone Empire _____________________ Band : InSaenZ http://www.myspace.com/insaenzrocks Guitar lessons : http://vivretteguitaracademy.com/guitar-lessons/ Good deals: valvedriventone,vchizzle, luker_x, marder explorer,hcprimerib(x2). RIP Leopardstar aka Johnny

07-30-2007, 08:55 AM	#12
onbongos Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20,050	dungens record was pod __________________ look out! i am using technology.

07-30-2007, 05:52 AM	#4
ToasterOven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,796	Love the chord progression. Great use of dissonance. POD sounds great too.

07-30-2007, 06:16 AM	#5
Cardinal of Crunk Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: snax town Posts: 9,744	what guitar and amp model please??

07-30-2007, 06:21 AM	#7
Cardinal of Crunk Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: snax town Posts: 9,744	PODs are really, really good if you know how to use them. I use the recto models most of the time, and I need to back off of the gain and bass considerably, then record about four tracks of guitar, it sounds huge.

07-30-2007, 09:37 AM	#16
Bmajor Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,568	Nice clip. I am really intrigued by your use of dissonance. Would you mind sharing the chord progressions? (Ain't gonna steal it, just trying to learn more about using dissonance properly) __________________ "Art is either plagiarism or revolution." -Gauguin

07-30-2007, 11:19 AM	#18
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