SPEAKERWAREHOUSE Vintage 30's.. QUESTION - Harmony Central Musician Community Forums

csrMark · 07-12-2007, 02:53 PM

Looking at putting these Speakerwarehouse.com Vintage 30's in my Peavey Classic 50.

Been playing through Greenback 25watt Marshall for 20years and never really played with stuff because I didn't really find a need to.

MY QUESTION IS:

What does the "30" in Vintage 30 stand for? Wattage? Magnet size?

The specs on these vintage 30's show 60 watts each at speakerwarehouse.com

12" Vintage Guitar Speaker
The soft parts of these speakers are from the old original British manufacturer which supplied parts for the original Celestion™ speakers.
Product Specifications

Power Rating 60 watts
12" Paper cone
Treated paper edge
1.75 inch voice coil
50 oz Ceramic magnet
Terminal board
Frequency range 70 - 5000 Hz
Sensitivity 1W/1M (SPL) : 100 dB
Nominal Impedance : 8 or 16 ohm
Mesh dust cap
Resonance frequency, Fs 75 Hz
MADE IN THE U.S.

ONE OTHER THING:

If I was going to replace my speakers, what ohm rating should I get. The current speakers are 16 but there is a jack in the head for 8 or 16ohm

Gabe Gnall · 07-12-2007, 04:46 PM

It's not the wattage; they're rated at 60-70 watts. I don't believe it's magnet size either. I think the "30" may be for "30 years" like an anniversary for Celestion's G12 perhaps (just guessing here). They were first released in the mid 1980's if I remember right.

They didn't always label them as "Vintage 30." My 1987 Marshall 2554 combo has the speaker labeled simply as "Vintage G12."

8 or 16 ohm will be fine as long as you connect to the right output. If you have an extension cab, match to that cab's inpedence and halve you amp's ohm output (ex. two 16 ohm speakers, you'd run your amp on 8 ohms).

TubeBy12 · 07-12-2007, 04:48 PM

Also consider a mix of V30 and G12H30 (or Hellatone 60 and 30, respectively). This would be a 60-watt combination and a very balanced one at that.

csrMark · 07-12-2007, 10:19 PM

man, I can't believe you guys don't know the answer to the "Vintage 30" question

Mistersuperfly · 07-13-2007, 03:42 AM

I can't get a www.speakerwarehouse.com to work... is this the link to the site?

Radiohead, lol · 07-13-2007, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistersuperfly

I can't get a www.speakerwarehouse.com to work... is this the link to the site?

www.warehousespeakers.com

csrMark · 07-13-2007, 06:15 AM

FROM CELESTION

Vintage 30
The Vintage 30 resulted from Celestion’s early steps to preserve the tonal characteristics of vintage speakers while using contemporary materials and construction techniques.

As the 1970s progressed and guitar amplifiers became more powerful, guitarists began to demand the tone of the Celestion Blue in a speaker that could handle more power. So in the early ’80s, Celestion made pioneering use of Laser Doppler Interferometry to analyse the cone behaviour of an original Celestion Blue. We could then form a precise model of our vintage speaker characteristics and apply it to a speaker design using new materials for greater power handling.

The result was an instant classic. Seemingly twice as loud as anything else at the same power level, the Vintage 30 handles massive overdrive sounds with ease. Tight bass, fat mids and a smooth, harmonically rich top end have made the Vintage 30 an excellent 4 x 12" loudspeaker. Of course, it’s also suitable for any other cab!

thefyn · 07-13-2007, 06:21 AM

Dude. Keep the greenbacks. The warehouse speakers are good but greenbacks are greenbacks.

yourguitarhero · 07-13-2007, 06:35 AM

12" = 30cm

Mistersuperfly · 07-13-2007, 01:47 PM

Hmmm... the warehouse speakers seem really cool, is there any concensus on whether or not they sound as good or better than a real v30?

knucklefux · 07-13-2007, 01:52 PM

i like the V30 clones more than i liked the G12T-75's that i sold.

MattACaster · 07-13-2007, 01:55 PM

I'm thinking of giving their CL80s a try in my Marshall 1960A.

07-12-2007, 02:53 PM	#1
csrMark Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 412	SPEAKERWAREHOUSE Vintage 30's.. QUESTION Looking at putting these Speakerwarehouse.com Vintage 30's in my Peavey Classic 50. Been playing through Greenback 25watt Marshall for 20years and never really played with stuff because I didn't really find a need to. MY QUESTION IS: What does the "30" in Vintage 30 stand for? Wattage? Magnet size? The specs on these vintage 30's show 60 watts each at speakerwarehouse.com 12" Vintage Guitar Speaker The soft parts of these speakers are from the old original British manufacturer which supplied parts for the original Celestion™ speakers. Product Specifications Power Rating 60 watts 12" Paper cone Treated paper edge 1.75 inch voice coil 50 oz Ceramic magnet Terminal board Frequency range 70 - 5000 Hz Sensitivity 1W/1M (SPL) : 100 dB Nominal Impedance : 8 or 16 ohm Mesh dust cap Resonance frequency, Fs 75 Hz MADE IN THE U.S. ONE OTHER THING: If I was going to replace my speakers, what ohm rating should I get. The current speakers are 16 but there is a jack in the head for 8 or 16ohm

07-12-2007, 04:48 PM	#3
TubeBy12 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 157	Also consider a mix of V30 and G12H30 (or Hellatone 60 and 30, respectively). This would be a 60-watt combination and a very balanced one at that. __________________ Rectoverb MkII head -> Vertical 2X12 Recto cab & Bogner OS 2X12 cab Classic 30 head -> Lopoline OS 1X12 Hellatone 30 (G12H30) Valve Junior v3 head -> two Epi 1X12 cabs

07-13-2007, 03:42 AM	#5
Mistersuperfly Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the playas play, and we ride on them thangs like e'ry day Posts: 6,697	I can't get a www.speakerwarehouse.com to work... is this the link to the site? __________________ Colour Academy Good, Bad... I'm the guy with the gun. www.valvetechamps.com www.pumaboards.com www.rockhardcases.com www.empresseffects.com www.lavacable.com www.ehx.com www.fulltone.com www.avatarspeakers.com

07-13-2007, 06:35 AM	#9
yourguitarhero Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 4,225	12" = 30cm __________________ Amp #1: White Matamp 1224 with the Bull God (inc glowing eyes) engraved on the face plate into the matching 2x12" Amp #2: Blackstar Artisan 100 into a 60s/70s greenback Marshall 4x12" Amp #3: Randall RM20 combo with Blackface & Grail modules.

07-13-2007, 01:47 PM	#10
Mistersuperfly Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the playas play, and we ride on them thangs like e'ry day Posts: 6,697	Hmmm... the warehouse speakers seem really cool, is there any concensus on whether or not they sound as good or better than a real v30? __________________ Colour Academy Good, Bad... I'm the guy with the gun. www.valvetechamps.com www.pumaboards.com www.rockhardcases.com www.empresseffects.com www.lavacable.com www.ehx.com www.fulltone.com www.avatarspeakers.com

07-12-2007, 04:46 PM	#2
Gabe Gnall Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 314	It's not the wattage; they're rated at 60-70 watts. I don't believe it's magnet size either. I think the "30" may be for "30 years" like an anniversary for Celestion's G12 perhaps (just guessing here). They were first released in the mid 1980's if I remember right. They didn't always label them as "Vintage 30." My 1987 Marshall 2554 combo has the speaker labeled simply as "Vintage G12." 8 or 16 ohm will be fine as long as you connect to the right output. If you have an extension cab, match to that cab's inpedence and halve you amp's ohm output (ex. two 16 ohm speakers, you'd run your amp on 8 ohms).

07-12-2007, 10:19 PM	#4
csrMark Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 412	man, I can't believe you guys don't know the answer to the "Vintage 30" question

07-13-2007, 06:15 AM	#7
csrMark Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 412	FROM CELESTION Vintage 30 The Vintage 30 resulted from Celestion’s early steps to preserve the tonal characteristics of vintage speakers while using contemporary materials and construction techniques. As the 1970s progressed and guitar amplifiers became more powerful, guitarists began to demand the tone of the Celestion Blue in a speaker that could handle more power. So in the early ’80s, Celestion made pioneering use of Laser Doppler Interferometry to analyse the cone behaviour of an original Celestion Blue. We could then form a precise model of our vintage speaker characteristics and apply it to a speaker design using new materials for greater power handling. The result was an instant classic. Seemingly twice as loud as anything else at the same power level, the Vintage 30 handles massive overdrive sounds with ease. Tight bass, fat mids and a smooth, harmonically rich top end have made the Vintage 30 an excellent 4 x 12" loudspeaker. Of course, it’s also suitable for any other cab!

07-13-2007, 06:21 AM	#8
thefyn Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Stuart FL Posts: 18,060	Dude. Keep the greenbacks. The warehouse speakers are good but greenbacks are greenbacks.

07-13-2007, 01:52 PM	#11
knucklefux Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: columbus, ga Posts: 17,189	i like the V30 clones more than i liked the G12T-75's that i sold. __________________ got a question about TITAN amps? ask me here TITAN AMPS on myspace My band:Last Comes Gunfire

07-13-2007, 01:55 PM	#12
MattACaster Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 23,560	I'm thinking of giving their CL80s a try in my Marshall 1960A. __________________ Mesa '94 Rev. G Triple Rectifier Mesa Single Rectifier Series 2 Mesa Stiletto Deuce Stage 1 Marshall JCM2000 DSL 100watt Fender '67 Bassman Fender Hotrod Deluxe Fender RocPro 1000 (x2) Roland JC-120 Blackstar HT-5 Crate GX-15

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