Tube Amp vs Digital Model

[the otter]

What do you guys think?

and has anything surpassed a POD in the modelling field?

[skippydmongoose]

Originally posted by warped666
What do you guys think?

and has anything surpassed a POD in the modelling field?

Surpass? It all sounds like a canned fart.

(actually the clean bf model isn't that bad)

[Stonedtone]

well now, this topic has never been addressed here. What are these model things you speak of

[MrKnobs]

Originally posted by warped666
What do you guys think?

and has anything surpassed a POD in the modelling field?

Personally, I think a Roland VG-88 sounds much better than a POD.

But neither one sounds anything like a tube amp.

Terry D.

[Trent Bale]

Tubes wear out. Digital lasts. Most can't tell the differance anyways. Tube amp lovers live a lie. Fools.

[skippydmongoose]

Originally posted by Stonedtone
well now, this topic has never been addressed here. What are these model things you speak of

[Stonedtone]

Originally posted by Trent Bale
Tubes wear out. Digital lasts. Most can't tell the differance anyways. Tube amp lovers live a lie. Fools.

STFU nOOb. take it to the sterile sound board

[skippydmongoose]

Originally posted by MrKnobs


Personally, I think a Roland VG-88 sounds much better than a POD.

But neither one sounds anything like a tube amp.

Terry D.

Yep. You cannot achieve the OD sounds that a tube amp gets with a digital box. Some cleans are ok, but not tube warm.

[Trent Bale]

Originally posted by Stonedtone


STFU nOOb. take it to the sterile sound board

May be a noob, but at least I know what I'm talking about. Maybe you might listen to those who know more? Let me guess, you own several tube amps?

[the otter]

Originally posted by MrKnobs


Personally, I think a Roland VG-88 sounds much better than a POD.

But neither one sounds anything like a tube amp.

Terry D.

I sold my VG-88

The guitar models were fun...although underused (by me) , but I didn't like the amp models at all.

[the otter]

Originally posted by Stonedtone
well now, this topic has never been addressed here. What are these model things you speak of

use google.


learn something

[the otter]

Originally posted by skippydmongoose
Yep. You cannot achieve the OD sounds that a tube amp gets with a digital box. Some cleans are ok, but not tube warm.

not even one is trying to get that shitty SRV tone, ever thing about that?



I like metallic distortion

[MrKnobs]

Originally posted by Trent Bale
Tubes wear out. Digital lasts. Most can't tell the differance anyways. Tube amp lovers live a lie. Fools.

Lasts? Today's amazing digital box will be worthless junk in two years like the stuff designed two years ago is today. When you buy a modeler, ANY modeler, you'd better really like the sound because you're not going to be able to resell that thing once the next "breakthrough" comes out.

It's exactly analagous to buying a computer.

On the other hand, I had an old Fender Twin I bought in 1972 for $75. Wish I had that thing today, it would fetch quite a nice price.

Terry D.

[the otter]

Originally posted by MrKnobs


Lasts? Today's amazing digital box will be worthless junk in two years like the stuff designed two years ago is today. When you buy a modeler, ANY modeler, you'd better really like the sound because you're not going to be able to resell that thing once the next "breakthrough" comes out.

It's exactly analagous to buying a computer.

On the other hand, I had an old Fender Twin I bought in 1972 for $75. Wish I had that thing today, it would fetch quite a nice price.

Terry D.

maybe... maybe not.

companies can go out of business and BAM! price jump

[Shai Hulud]

I'm so tired of arguing about this.

PODs and modelers work for me. I don't give a shit if cork-sniffer, tube snobs like skippy think they sound like shit.... because they sound good to me.

[JoshuaTSP]

I think a modeler can sound decent if it's tweeked properly.

Some things just work better for certain people.......have it be digital or analog.

[the otter]

Originally posted by Shai Hulud
I'm so tired of arguing about this.

PODs and modelers work for me. I don't give a shit if cork-sniffer, tube snobs like skippy think they sound like shit.... because they sound good to me.

then move along




what do you think of tube amps?

[Trent Bale]

Originally posted by MrKnobs


Lasts? Today's amazing digital box will be worthless junk in two years like the stuff designed two years ago is today. When you buy a modeler, ANY modeler, you'd better really like the sound because you're not going to be able to resell that thing once the next "breakthrough" comes out.

It's exactly analagous to buying a computer.

On the other hand, I had an old Fender Twin I bought in 1972 for $75. Wish I had that thing today, it would fetch quite a nice price.

Terry D.

If you look at your music gear as a means to make money through merchandising it, great for you. If the only reason you think tube amps are better than digital ones is this queer notion of yours, then ok - you are not serious about music.

I dont buy your pc analogy - it's completely fallacious. You don't need to 'upgrade' as you maintain, though, in many cases, the digital amps can be uploaded with better systems. So in that sense, not only are they much more flexible devices, but many units can be improved over time. Stuff that in your tweed.

[MrKnobs]

Originally posted by warped666


maybe... maybe not.

companies can go out of business and BAM! price jump

I don't think this has ever happened in the area of amp modelers.

I can think of some other artifical electronic devices that have had this sort of phenomenon, the Roland 808 drum machine comes to mind. Of course the end to that came pretty quickly as people just sampled the 808, no need for the actual machine anymore.

Terry D.

[Shai Hulud]

Originally posted by warped666


what do you think of tube amps?

IMO, If somebody needs one or two tones (clean, overdrive), then tube amps are great.

But... if someone needs MANY different types of clean and overdriven tones... then modelers are the way to go.

I like to use different sounding overdrives and clean tones.. depending on what the song is calling for. This is why I prefer the diversity of modelers over the 1-trick pony tube amps.

I'm sorry, but you can't make a Mesa sound like a Marshall... a Marshall sound like a Fender... a Fender sound like a Roland... a Roland sound like a Soldano....a Soldano sound like a Diezel,etc.