when new members TAKE OVER THE BAND ?

[Austincowbell]

I'm sure everything your wrote was valid but if I want to study statistics again I'll go to grad school. If you want to provide evidence disproving my theory I'm ready to listen.

[gubu]

Originally Posted by tinker925

Ok you wise musicians here;

This has got to be an on going problem.....

I (lead singer) joined this already established band on the urgency of their NEW lead guitarist. We are both experienced and strong lead people. She was going to quit because the gal that was also a co-lead guitar was also the lead singer and she cannot carry a tune - (I mean real bad and she is also a medioce to crappy guitarist) and new guitarist said she just cant be in that shitty of a project, so she talked me into singing for them - the rest of the band was THRILLED except the one who had the position taken away from her. And she was super jealous and ended up quiting (really what she did was FIRE us the two leads - she asked the rest of the band "as friends" to stay with her - but worded it as Im quitting - "Its not fun anymore").

How can this be avoided in the future?

BTW - the band went with the talent and we are moving on full steam ahead - but I do feel bad.

fuggedabahdit - get on with the music

[slight-return]

I'm sure everything your wrote was valid

It's really not very complicated. It just tends to be pessimistic (in terms of how much info you actually can distill from data) and that can get frustrating for folks, so there can be a temptation to cowboy the process

In that way it's a lot like Clever Hans

but if I want to study statistics again I'll go to grad school.

If you are involved in experiment design it could be very wise to do just that.

Or if you want to use statistical support, then yeah - it might be good to take a refresher course or two

ain't nothin wrong with that

It's not unlike "If I wanted to play guitar, I'd go study guitar" - hey if you want to play English horn I wouldn't recommend it, but if you want to use a guitar...




If you want to provide evidence disproving my theory I'm ready to listen.


This is an important point - and one that often gets misunderstood (you may remember this from your experiment design stuff)
Nullification and contradiction aren't the same

My analysis forwarded was nullification (ie we have NOT provided valid grounds for the assert)
What you are asking for is contradiction (ie demonstration that the opposite of the assertion is valid as an assertion)



However, since the assertion

the band identity needs to be clear and that means one singer, one lead guitarist, one bassist, and one drummer.

is based on an an absolute ("needs" , a requirement)

We have a relatively simple task as we can use disproof by negation (you may know it as disproof of a universal through demonstration of an existential)


if something is asserted as required and we can show an example that exists without that requirement -- then we have a contradiction
more explanation is avail if needed - but it's pretty classic.
A) Assertion : All dogs have 2 eyes
2) Given : Bob is a Dog
3) Given : Bob has one eye
4) by A[3] : Bob is NOT a dog

CONTRADICTION 2 : 4




and in the thread bands that have been listed with >1 singer( etc) that do not follow the 1 singer (etc) requirement.

QED

We may consider it a popular practice, we may consider it wise (or not and it may not even be universal) to follow -- that's different than required