I really like GuitarRig 4 - full tune included - Harmony Central Musician Community Forums

Mats Nermark · 10-08-2009, 09:29 AM

Hi,

I have just finished my first tune using GR4. Fact is, I got the Komplete 6 package and every sound in this tune is either guitar (Tyler SE HD) or bass (Sandberg Bullet Special) through Guitar Rig 4 or Battery or Kontakt 4. That's why I named the tune "All In The Box".
Please note that Kontakt 4 generated Rhodes, Hammond and horn section. All "funny sounds" were guitar and GuitarRig 4. I was influenced by spending time with Craig Anderton at NAMM, hearing his "weird and funny" take on electric guitar.

I think I can get the lead guitar to sit slightly better in the mix but I wanted to get it published so I settled for this which I still think is OK.

Guitar and bass recorded using the NI GR4 Mobile very inexpensive audio I/O. Great feel with that unit.

Above all GR4 is a joy to play.

http://nermark.articulateimages.com/...Box_091006.mp3

Cheers,

Mats N

Agreed · 10-08-2009, 10:34 AM

I agree, Guitar Rig 4 sounds better and is just a lot more "fun" and responsive than GR3. Good on the folks at Native for upping their game!

Santuzzo · 10-10-2009, 03:47 AM

I have Guitar Rig 3 and I want to buy the upgrade to GR4. Do you guys know if that upgrade will install onto GR3 and make it a new verison (and in that case still keep me all the GR3 content as is) or will it install as a 2nd software?

Mats Nermark · 10-10-2009, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santuzzo

I have Guitar Rig 3 and I want to buy the upgrade to GR4. Do you guys know if that upgrade will install onto GR3 and make it a new verison (and in that case still keep me all the GR3 content as is) or will it install as a 2nd software?

Hi,

It will install as 2nd software but with an added bonus. When you install GR4 it asks you if you want to import your GR3 patches.

Cheers,

Mats N

Santuzzo · 10-10-2009, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats Nermark

Hi,

It will install as 2nd software but with an added bonus. When you install GR4 it asks you if you want to import your GR3 patches.

Cheers,

Mats N

Cool . Thanks!

Your clip sounds awesome, by the way

GREAT sound and GREAT playing!

So if I got the Guitar Rig 4 upgrade I'd have two different software I could use?

Do you have both GR3 and 4?
Does GR4 have everything that's in GR3 or would it still make sense to keep using GR3 next to GR4?

Lars

Mats Nermark · 10-10-2009, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santuzzo

Cool . Thanks!

Your clip sounds awesome, by the way

GREAT sound and GREAT playing!

So if I got the Guitar Rig 4 upgrade I'd have two different software I could use?

Do you have both GR3 and 4?
Does GR4 have everything that's in GR3 or would it still make sense to keep using GR3 next to GR4?

Lars

GR4 has everything that GR3 has. So far I personally see no reason to use GR3 if I have GR4.

Cheers,

Mats N

Santuzzo · 10-10-2009, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats Nermark

GR4 has everything that GR3 has. So far I personally see no reason to use GR3 if I have GR4.

Cheers,

Mats N

OK, I see.

In that case you could just install GR4 and de-install GR3, or would I need to keep GR3 installed if I get GR4 as an upgrade?

Mats Nermark · 10-10-2009, 06:27 AM

Hi,

Install GR4 first so it sees the GR3 presets for import. When you're done you can uninstall GR3.

Cheers,

Mats N

Santuzzo · 10-10-2009, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats Nermark

Hi,

Install GR4 first so it sees the GR3 presets for import. When you're done you can uninstall GR3.

Cheers,

Mats N

OK.

Thanks.

I will order GR4

RandyMorter · 10-16-2009, 09:10 AM

Hey Mats,

Nice song - very tasty, nice playing, mix, sounds. I like it!

And I want to also say I like GR4 better than GR3. It just sounds better and I thought GR3 was pretty good. There were some GR3 sounds that sounded like they were recorded in a box or something but everything I've tried in GR4 sounds like you could use it as is in a recording - like you've done.

Rose Pickups · 10-16-2009, 09:14 AM

I was thinking about getting this....

strings&things · 10-17-2009, 02:22 AM

i can also recommend Guitar Rig 4 .... i bought 3 over the summer and Native Instruments sent me an e-mail with a free coupon for the GR4 update ....

the install went very smoothly ...

the level of detail in Guitar Rig is fairly high .... one niggle: the preset system is a bit clogged up for my taste .... but for some, they may really like this feature ...

as far as sound quality goes, ( which is my main concern ), i give Guitar Rig 4 ( and Guitar Rig 3 ) a 9/10....

andyhumb · 10-17-2009, 08:17 AM

I'm a newb at this guitar rig software stuff - do you guys thinks its truly better than using a processor for recording? I use a tech 21 PSA 1 pre amp for recording currently. One of my firends got some really impressive results with the GR3 software. I couldn't believe it was actually software generated guitar tone. I hazard to say it may be better than the PSA 1 tones.

I think you can get the bare bones GR4 for like $120? do you really need the foot pedal control? that adds alot of cost

Mats Nermark · 10-17-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyhumb

do you really need the foot pedal control? that adds alot of cost

No, you don't!
It's nice to have but not a necessity.
What you do need to have to get good results is a guitar friendly sound card.
I can't recommend the GR4 Mobile I/O. Feels and sounds good.

Cheers,

Mats N

Umbra · 10-17-2009, 08:52 AM

Can't say I like the song, it's very cheesy, but the guitar part/effects sound ok. I'd do some work on the mix, the guitar part for being the main element of the song is very narrow sounding. It needs to be wider.

The drums need some work, not enough velocity variation, same with most of the other parts, and the synth stabs/horns are sooooooo cheesy they sound like an old casio home synth.

andyhumb · 10-17-2009, 10:48 AM

What makes a guitar friendly sound card? specifics

Mats Nermark · 10-17-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyhumb

What makes a guitar friendly sound card? specifics

A guitar friendly sound card IMHO is a card that lets you and your guitar behave like you usually do when playing an ordinary amp. I.e. reacts properly to playing dynamics, changes of guitar volume and tone and should be OK with you hooking up a few choice analog guitar pedals between the guitar and sound card input.

I have tried a few sound cards and while they work very well with microphones and line input I have felt that the guitar/instrument input made the guitar feel sort of cold, flat and responsive.

Cheers,

Mats N

Lava · 11-03-2009, 11:04 AM

Can any of you who own GR4 compare it to Revalver MkIII? I have always found RV to sound way better than GR4, but I totally lust after GR4's effects and modulation capabilities. Thanks!

Undertaker4 · 11-11-2009, 09:54 AM

I've been using GR4 now for a few weeks, I'm really starting to like it. The Orange amp sounds fantastic to me, it may be my favorite.

TomVanDeven · 11-13-2009, 02:36 AM

Sounds excellent! I'm only using the built-in amps that come with Logic 9 atm, and am getting some decent sounds with those. I'll have to check out GR4 as well.

10-08-2009, 09:29 AM	#1
Mats Nermark Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 266	I really like GuitarRig 4 - full tune included Hi, I have just finished my first tune using GR4. Fact is, I got the Komplete 6 package and every sound in this tune is either guitar (Tyler SE HD) or bass (Sandberg Bullet Special) through Guitar Rig 4 or Battery or Kontakt 4. That's why I named the tune "All In The Box". Please note that Kontakt 4 generated Rhodes, Hammond and horn section. All "funny sounds" were guitar and GuitarRig 4. I was influenced by spending time with Craig Anderton at NAMM, hearing his "weird and funny" take on electric guitar. I think I can get the lead guitar to sit slightly better in the mix but I wanted to get it published so I settled for this which I still think is OK. Guitar and bass recorded using the NI GR4 Mobile very inexpensive audio I/O. Great feel with that unit. Above all GR4 is a joy to play. http://nermark.articulateimages.com/...Box_091006.mp3 Cheers, Mats N __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - BT King - all my backing tracks can be found at : http://nermark.articulateimages.com

10-08-2009, 10:34 AM	#2
Agreed You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jeff - Arkansas Posts: 8,296	I agree, Guitar Rig 4 sounds better and is just a lot more "fun" and responsive than GR3. Good on the folks at Native for upping their game! __________________ My Review Blog - discussion and review of hardware and software, from major commercial suites to the latest and greatest freeware VSTs. Now with a free VST master list of my favorite freeware plugins for tracking, mixing and mastering! FrugalGuitarist - Reviews and articles for musicians of every budget!

10-10-2009, 03:47 AM	#3
Santuzzo Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 5,227	I have Guitar Rig 3 and I want to buy the upgrade to GR4. Do you guys know if that upgrade will install onto GR3 and make it a new verison (and in that case still keep me all the GR3 content as is) or will it install as a 2nd software? __________________ Ibanez RG550LTD Ibanez RG1527 Ibanez RG1527M-GW Cort LCS-1 Larry Coryell model Hughes & Kettner Attax 100 combo Mesa Boogie F-50 combo Zoom G2.1u

10-10-2009, 06:27 AM	#8
Mats Nermark Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 266	Hi, Install GR4 first so it sees the GR3 presets for import. When you're done you can uninstall GR3. Cheers, Mats N __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - BT King - all my backing tracks can be found at : http://nermark.articulateimages.com

10-16-2009, 09:10 AM	#10
RandyMorter Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 46	Hey Mats, Nice song - very tasty, nice playing, mix, sounds. I like it! And I want to also say I like GR4 better than GR3. It just sounds better and I thought GR3 was pretty good. There were some GR3 sounds that sounded like they were recorded in a box or something but everything I've tried in GR4 sounds like you could use it as is in a recording - like you've done. __________________ Randy Morter http://www.PoppaVein.com Main Squeezies: Ibanez 540R, Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson Les Paul Gold Top Fulltone Clyde Deluxe Wah, Digitech Whammy, Fulltone '70, Fulltone OCD, Fulltone Mini Deja Vibe, Lexicon MX200, Whirlwind A/B/Y Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 100 Fender Hot Rod Blues DeVille 4X10 DigiTech Vocalist Live 4 Other stuff I don't use much: Cry Baby Wah, Ibanez TS7, CF7, DE7, Boss BF3, TU2, Korg ToneWorks AX1g, Whirlwind A/B/Y, Marshall VS30R

10-16-2009, 09:14 AM	#11
Rose Pickups Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 348	I was thinking about getting this.... __________________ http://www.rosepickups.com http://www.newdawnguitars.com

10-17-2009, 02:22 AM	#12
strings&things Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: with cats Posts: 49	i can also recommend Guitar Rig 4 .... i bought 3 over the summer and Native Instruments sent me an e-mail with a free coupon for the GR4 update .... the install went very smoothly ... the level of detail in Guitar Rig is fairly high .... one niggle: the preset system is a bit clogged up for my taste .... but for some, they may really like this feature ... as far as sound quality goes, ( which is my main concern ), i give Guitar Rig 4 ( and Guitar Rig 3 ) a 9/10....

10-17-2009, 08:17 AM	#13
andyhumb Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 592	I'm a newb at this guitar rig software stuff - do you guys thinks its truly better than using a processor for recording? I use a tech 21 PSA 1 pre amp for recording currently. One of my firends got some really impressive results with the GR3 software. I couldn't believe it was actually software generated guitar tone. I hazard to say it may be better than the PSA 1 tones. I think you can get the bare bones GR4 for like $120? do you really need the foot pedal control? that adds alot of cost __________________ "I constantly amaze myself as well as others" the humble George Lynch (source - George Lynch official website) "the bottom end on that amp is as tight as a virgin's ass" "hey Obama, socialism is not the answer" - for those looking for a definition of socialism, heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

10-17-2009, 08:52 AM	#15
Umbra Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,366	Can't say I like the song, it's very cheesy, but the guitar part/effects sound ok. I'd do some work on the mix, the guitar part for being the main element of the song is very narrow sounding. It needs to be wider. The drums need some work, not enough velocity variation, same with most of the other parts, and the synth stabs/horns are sooooooo cheesy they sound like an old casio home synth. __________________ Every man makes a mountain of his life and master plan...

10-17-2009, 10:48 AM	#16
andyhumb Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 592	What makes a guitar friendly sound card? specifics __________________ "I constantly amaze myself as well as others" the humble George Lynch (source - George Lynch official website) "the bottom end on that amp is as tight as a virgin's ass" "hey Obama, socialism is not the answer" - for those looking for a definition of socialism, heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

11-03-2009, 11:04 AM	#18
Lava Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Molten core of the Earth Posts: 1,343	Can any of you who own GR4 compare it to Revalver MkIII? I have always found RV to sound way better than GR4, but I totally lust after GR4's effects and modulation capabilities. Thanks! __________________ MOHODISCO

11-11-2009, 09:54 AM	#19
Undertaker4 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 374	I've been using GR4 now for a few weeks, I'm really starting to like it. The Orange amp sounds fantastic to me, it may be my favorite.

11-13-2009, 02:36 AM	#20
TomVanDeven Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario. Posts: 21,732	Sounds excellent! I'm only using the built-in amps that come with Logic 9 atm, and am getting some decent sounds with those. I'll have to check out GR4 as well. __________________ Member of the "Dirty 30" AC 30 Crew Smooth deals with: duncan, the_bleeding, MrSandMan, 6StrngStrangler, mmmmmchina, gproud, Onehourlater, driverhasabomb, bluehuricane, melx, TheErosion, gschmittling, BrianPhase90 Fender Custom Shop '52 Telecaster Fender Telecaster Deluxe w/mods Vox AC30H2 50th Anniversary Angstrom ATA 2x12 case Pedals n' stuff

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