Roland JD-990/JD-800 competition - Page 16 - Harmony Central Musician Community Forums

mentris · 03-21-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Solaris

As of presets. Nope. They suck. On both JD itself and Vintage, you might find just 3-4 good ones for Atmosphere pads. In other words, you'll need to build them. But that's for what this synth is - building deep space sounds.

Can you please give some advice on how to build own sounds, especially those atmospheric pads, on the jd-990 for beginners like me? I have basic knowledge of synthesis but when I hear some of those fascinating patches (like in the contest-demos) I feel completely overstrained and tend to resign and use presets only

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And: is an external (software) editor recommended for the jd-990 or does editing via display make sense in the long run?

Regards!

antilles · 03-22-2008, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mentris

Can you please give some advice on how to build own sounds, especially those atmospheric pads, on the jd-990 for beginners like me? I have basic knowledge of synthesis but when I hear some of those fascinating patches (like in the contest-demos) I feel completely overstrained and tend to resign and use presets only

.

And: is an external (software) editor recommended for the jd-990 or does editing via display make sense in the long run?

Regards!

Editing via the display isn't that hard. It's very well laid out, so you will get use to it. and eventually editing will be at the tip of your fingers without even thinking about it.

If you want to build you own sounds, first find some good existing patches and work with them. Alter them into your own creation. (Change waveforms ect...).

mentris · 03-22-2008, 05:38 AM

Thank you!

mentris · 03-22-2008, 06:11 PM

Here's my little contribution to the contest, made without any external fx (just normalized). These are my very first steps with this complex machine

http://jdcontest.awakeaudio.com/uplo...ntris_Demo.mp3

Don Solaris · 03-22-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mentris

http://jdcontest.awakeaudio.com/uplo...ntris_Demo.mp3

You did overdub? Or mixed on the desk? Where does kick come from? Somehow this just doesn't sound like the JD (unless some external gear was used).

Very good track.

mentris · 03-22-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Solaris

You did overdub? Or mixed on the desk?

It's all recorded at the same time in performance-mode, I used the internal Eq and "mixer".

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Where does kick come from? Somehow this just doesn't sound like the JD (unless some external gear was used).

It's the 808-kick-wave (No 159), pitch-env at maximum from highest (+50) to lowest point (-50) and very short T1 (7). Then tuned up (+38).

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Very good track.

Thank you

Now you give me tips for making incredible "Don Solaris-Style"-pads?

Don Solaris · 03-23-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mentris

It's the 808-kick-wave (No 159), pitch-env at maximum from highest (+50) to lowest point (-50) and very short T1 (7). Then tuned up (+38).

Welcome to the kick club! I remember when i made that kick first time in 1994. We could not afford samplers so the pitch envelope over 808kick on Roland JV-90 was the only solution to have the megapopular 909 style kick. You'd not beleve the stuff we pulled out of JV in multi timbral. Later the Super JV 1080 came out with the better cpu, so there was no more of that funny "skipping" of the kick drum.

But i like to see you guys pulling max out of a single instrument. That's the way to learn synths.

MartinP268 · 03-23-2008, 07:47 AM

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You got no time to do the track? Liar! This contest has no deadline until we collect enough material to start the poll for the best track.

I'm in. Tomorrow I'll start saving money for a JD synth

ElectricPuppy · 04-06-2008, 10:48 AM

Shit. I wanna play, too. Guess I'm gonna have to find a ol' JD somewheres...

Karma1 · 04-07-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricPuppy

Shit. I wanna play, too. Guess I'm gonna have to find a ol' JD somewheres...

Where in Calif. are you located? I'm in the Bay area and am thinking of selling my mint JD800. However, I'm not into shipping it.

ElectricPuppy · 04-07-2008, 02:22 PM

I'm down in Orange County, Karma. Thanks, though! I was kinda leaning towards a 990 anyway, I don't have room for another keyboard.

Don Solaris · 04-08-2008, 03:01 AM

UPDATED

Please go here for submitted demos:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...7#post32046387

Awake77 · 04-08-2008, 10:15 AM

Man I got to get me a 990!! This lack of JD-ness is killin' me

k2500x · 04-08-2008, 11:53 AM

OK I'll bite...

I've got a JD-800 at home and plan on getting a 990 to go along with it soon. I've got to clean the key contacts on the 800 because some of the keys don't work right. But I plan to contribute to this competition by the end of May!

MarkShovel2 · 04-08-2008, 01:52 PM

Greetings Don,

How are you generating the wide stereo image?

I've got a JD-800 and do not think it can stereo pan the four tones. Does the JD-990 have stereo panning for each tone?

Mark

Don Solaris · 04-09-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkShovel2

Does the JD-990 have stereo panning for each tone?

Yes.

And many other things. (btw this article needs update. I forgot to list another thing that JD-990 has and JD-800 doesn't. The modulation is not fixed to one LFO per parameter. On JD-990 you can use two different LFO's for the same destination - i.e. pitch, filter, tva)

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I've got a JD-800 and do not think it can stereo pan the four tones.

JD-800 can't do 30% of what JD-990 can.

flat earth · 04-09-2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by k2500x

OK I'll bite...

...... I've got to clean the key contacts on the 800 because some of the keys don't work right.

From experience, i found the rubber dome mech to be the culprit for dead keys on JD800. (they can split)

You can pick them up at: http://www.vintageplanet.nl/

Also i posted this thread which might be of interest:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...ighlight=jd800

k2500x · 04-09-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat earth

From experience, i found the rubber dome mech to be the culprit for dead keys on JD800. (they can split)

You can pick them up at: http://www.vintageplanet.nl/

Also i posted this thread which might be of interest:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...ighlight=jd800

Thanks for your help. I think all keys pretty much make a sound. It's just that the velocity is -way- off on two or three keys. The rest work perfect. Love this this synth BTW. It just has the most unique and musical patches. I've got my expression pedal routed to aftertouch, which is really great for changing the sounds in real time.

Sam Utah · 04-17-2008, 11:06 AM

Don - I just got the 990 and I bought a used vintage board. I cannot get the system to recognize the vintage board. The boot screen says "Expanded" like it should but no love. I cannot get it to load the sounds...when I go into utility to load it just says "card not ready"....I think I seated it firmly..altho the tool was not provided. Any suggestions? - Sam In Santa Cruz

Don Solaris · 04-17-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Utah

Don - I just got the 990 and I bought a used vintage board. I cannot get the system to recognize...

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...4#post21433264

03-22-2008, 05:38 AM	#303
mentris Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Berlin Posts: 21	Thank you! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/mentris

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mentris Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Berlin Posts: 21	Here's my little contribution to the contest, made without any external fx (just normalized). These are my very first steps with this complex machine http://jdcontest.awakeaudio.com/uplo...ntris_Demo.mp3 __________________ http://www.myspace.com/mentris Last edited by mentris : 03-22-2008 at 06:23 PM.

04-08-2008, 03:01 AM	#312
Don Solaris Certified Synth Maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 6,111	UPDATED Please go here for submitted demos: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...7#post32046387 Last edited by Don Solaris : 04-05-2009 at 12:04 PM.

04-08-2008, 10:15 AM	#313
Awake77 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,138	Man I got to get me a 990!! This lack of JD-ness is killin' me __________________ Live for Nothing, or Die For Something - John Rambo

04-08-2008, 01:52 PM	#315
MarkShovel2 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 534	Question For Don: Greetings Don, How are you generating the wide stereo image? I've got a JD-800 and do not think it can stereo pan the four tones. Does the JD-990 have stereo panning for each tone? Mark

04-06-2008, 10:48 AM	#309
ElectricPuppy I haz a keyboard Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Inside, outside, upside-down Posts: 12,311	Shit. I wanna play, too. Guess I'm gonna have to find a ol' JD somewheres...

04-07-2008, 02:22 PM	#311
ElectricPuppy I haz a keyboard Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Inside, outside, upside-down Posts: 12,311	I'm down in Orange County, Karma. Thanks, though! I was kinda leaning towards a 990 anyway, I don't have room for another keyboard.

04-08-2008, 11:53 AM	#314
k2500x Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 334	OK I'll bite... I've got a JD-800 at home and plan on getting a 990 to go along with it soon. I've got to clean the key contacts on the 800 because some of the keys don't work right. But I plan to contribute to this competition by the end of May!

04-17-2008, 11:06 AM	#319
Sam Utah Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca Posts: 2	Don - I just got the 990 and I bought a used vintage board. I cannot get the system to recognize the vintage board. The boot screen says "Expanded" like it should but no love. I cannot get it to load the sounds...when I go into utility to load it just says "card not ready"....I think I seated it firmly..altho the tool was not provided. Any suggestions? - Sam In Santa Cruz

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