Killing Band Members

[doctorno]

Friday night my band had a gig at this bar that we have been trying to get into for a year or so. It's a nice place and we were expecting a good turnout, so we wanted to put on our best performance we could. What does my drummer do? Well, the stickless wonder arrived with a digital drum set that he had bought the night before. We didnt know shit about it and had no idea how to get the thing in the mix, and he had no idea on how to get a decent sound out of the thing. Needless to say I dont thing we will be invited back.

Any of you got some band member horror stories?

[Badside]

Lessons learned:

1- Digital drums are to be avoided when possible
2- Never bring a new piece of gear to a gig without trying it at a rehearsal first

Although I'm guilty of that sometimes, I always seem to buy a new guitar right before a gig! But I learned my lesson over the years: I change the strings (LaBella 10-52, what else?), install strap locks and do a complete tune-up before showing up, even if that implies going to bed at 2 am the night before. And I always have more than two guitars on stage anyway...

But when I was less experienced I did stupid things, like buying a brand new Telecaster and keeping the stock 9s on it and wondering why the sound dissappeared when I switched from my LP! Doh!

[doctorno]

Yeah I know, but the sad thing is we have been giging for a while now, and he is definitely old enough to know better.

[cherri]

1. Shows up at 5:10 for a 5:50 performance at a national festival, with the hardware he broke the night before still broken. Starts apologizing because he had the time wrong and thought he MISSED the performance.

2. Showed up 2 1/2 hours late Saturday. Yeah, we're auditioning his replacement.

[Hamer Player]

Originally posted by doctorno

Any of you got some band member horror stories?

My bass player is a hopeless drunk. :( :mad:

One gig after he spilled a full pitcher of beer all over his amp, he got mad, walked out into the crowd (while still plugged in) and let some dude in the audience play his bass. :( :mad:

[doctorno]

A few years back, the guitarist decided to drop a pitcher of beer on my pedal board, fried half of the pedals. After that and the statement "Oh well, thats what happens when you play live." I decided to take my leave.

[Badside]

Originally posted by doctorno
A few years back, the guitarist decided to drop a pitcher of beer on my pedal board, fried half of the pedals. After that and the statement "Oh well, thats what happens when you play live." I decided to take my leave.

Hahaha, instant classic!

[riffdaddy]

Our singer feels he should be the only one in the band to sing tunes. That would be fine if we did hour-long shows, but we play for three hours a night when we work. Consequently, his voice is slowly deteriorating. It wasn't that great to begin with. Now he's singing close to a half-step flat by the end of most nights. We finally made the decision (without him) to go ahead and assign a few tunes to different people in the group. What did he do? Double the lead vocal--out of tune.

[Cortfan]

We have an excellent guitar player, but sometimes I would like to kill him, just because.

[acousticvoodoo]

I'm a guitar player... but because I'm not "excellent"... I want to kill myself.

But I "endevor to perservere"... so everything's OK! :D

michael

[cozmicslop]

We're opening for a pretty important regional act signed to TVT records. Singer is nervous. Has a few too many tequila shots. Forgets the words - all original material. Asks for a music stand and places all his music on the music stand. Halfway into second song, he knocks over music stand sending paper splashing all over the stage.

He's the one who fucked up, but they wanted to kill me because I couldn't stop laughing.

[LosBoleros]

I hate it when we take a break after about two hours of playing and the band members disapear. When it's time to go back on I grab who ever I find and say, "Stay here", then make a mad dash through the club, in the bathrooms, out in the parking lot to find the rest of the band. This really drives me nuts!

[fuzzball]

I hate it when a guitar player feels that he is the only instrument that needs to be heard, during a song he will go to his amp and crank it up to 11.:mad:

[Lee Flier]

Fortunately, it's been a long time since I've had to deal with any bandmate horror stories. I did play with this one drummer who was always forgetting parts of his kit. Forgot his sticks several times and had to use random tree branches found on the ground, etc. :rolleyes: This guy was also a chronic complainer, to understate things. He'd bitch and bitch about everything, and blame everyone around him for anything that was wrong, and if nothing was wrong he'd make something up just so he could bitch and point fingers. Needless to say he never lasted long in any band he was in, and he's really lucky nobody ever killed him. :D

[ZomBiE DinkLE]

I had a bass player who would throw his picks out during shows when we all knew that no one in the crowd gave two shits for his picks. :rolleyes: he would also tweak and re-eq his amp during songs! :mad: we filmed him doing this at one show and it was priceless to see a band rocking out while the bassist twiddles with his knobs. :eek: the good news is that our band sucked. :cool:

[riffdaddy]

I've thought about throwing out picks, but with the goal of trying to land them in people's drinks. Is this wrong of me?

[ZomBiE DinkLE]

Originally posted by riffdaddy
I've thought about throwing out picks, but with the goal of trying to land them in people's drinks. Is this wrong of me?
not at all... I encourage it. :cool:

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by riffdaddy
Our singer feels he should be the only one in the band to sing tunes. That would be fine if we did hour-long shows, but we play for three hours a night when we work. Consequently, his voice is slowly deteriorating. It wasn't that great to begin with. Now he's singing close to a half-step flat by the end of most nights. We finally made the decision (without him) to go ahead and assign a few tunes to different people in the group. What did he do? Double the lead vocal--out of tune.

We had a singer who started our band up. He's a great mate of mine, decided we should start a band, found a drummer where we work, booked our first rehearsal studio came up with the band name... his only problem being that he was completely, utterly, hopelessly tone-deaf. We rehearsed for months without him ever getting a single song right and we were all too nice to tell him how bloody god-awful he was. Eventually push came to shove and we slowly took all the singing duties off him and relegated him to keyboards. Once that was done we were gig-ready in no time, and then on the last rehearsal before the gig he brings his own mike to rehearsal plugs in and does impromptu (awful) backing vocals when he thinks we're not looking/listening. We asked him nicely not to do it at the gig, but I think we were too subtle about it cos, sure enough he turned up to the gig, and plugged a mike into the PA - the only saving grace being that he sang quietly and we were able to drown him out!! It's a mystery to me why somebody so bad at singing would be so determined to do it... and short of telling him to his face that I never ever want him to sing on any tune ever because he sounds like a wailing cat I'm not sure how to bring it home to him that maybe he should give up on the singing.

If he didn't happen to be a really good mate, an all round great bloke (apart from the singing) and the guy that started the band I've no doubt we'd fire him... does anyone else have problems like this - or is it just that I'm far too nice?

[Terry Allan Hall]

About a month ago, a bassist I'd hired for a particular gig (my regular bassist, Wendy, and her regular sub, Rich, were both gigging with other bands that night) came to the gig "cranked to the gills"...a definite no-no!

If that wasn't enough, during our 1st break, a group of about 30 folks came in all wearing the same Church Camp t-shirts...obviously, not a group that would appreciate him picking up my guitar and singing a song about Jesus getting what Clinton got in trouble over (if you get my drift :eek: )...which, unfortunately was PRECISELY what he did!

So, there I am coming out of the can and hearing him screech this ABSOLUTELY inappropriate song and simultaneously listening to the restaurant's manager demanding to know what's going on!

I went over, unplugged the PA from the wall, grabbed him by the collar and explained that if he opened his mouth for any reason the rest of the evening, I would convert his dog-house bass into an impromptu enema!

Fortunately, the restaurant owner has known me for years and knew this bozo was neither of my regular bassists, or I would probably never be allowed to play there again!

[Badside]

Originally posted by fuzzball
I hate it when a guitar player feels that he is the only instrument that needs to be heard, during a song he will go to his amp and crank it up to 11.:mad:

Well the problem is that most soundman feel that the guitar is the only instrument that doesn't need to be heard... Wherever we play, it's always the same shit: only thing you can hear through the FOH are drums, bass and vocals. So when people complain to me during the break they cannot hear my guitar, and that I know that if I get the soundman to raise it, he'll bring it down as soon as we start again, I just crank my Marshall higher (like 4 instead of 3!). What am I to do?

[fuzzball]

Trust me the sound man was not at fault here.

[squealie]

Originally posted by Lee Flier
Forgot his sticks several times and had to use random tree branches found on the ground, etc.

That may be the goofiest thing I've ever heard.

LOL!


Drummers are stupid. :(

[Lee Flier]

LOL yeah it was pretty lame. Not all drummers are like that though, I actually get along with most of them pretty well. The drummer in my current band totally has his shit together and is one smart dude, and a KILLER drummer, so I guess I had some drummer karma coming to me after dealing with that other one... LOL. :D

[squealie]

Originally posted by Lee Flier
Not all drummers are like that though,

I'd take that bet. :D

[Tonemaster2]

Ever notice how stupid most musicians are?? If you have a problem bandmember, get rid of his ass. Your only as good as your weakest member, and don`t tell me that the guys ` a great player. Doesn`t matter how good he is, if he forgot his fucking tools.
We had a keyboard player, who constantly had gear problems,,,the same ones every gig, because he didn`t ever maintain his shit. Well, he`s history now. For the first time in a real long time, I`ve got bandmates who actually have brains that can reason, are on time, take care of their stuff, and have common sense. We`re all on the same page.

Drummers are the fucking worst tho!!

T.:cool:

[Lee Flier]

Originally posted by Tonemaster2
Ever notice how stupid most musicians are?? If you have a problem bandmember, get rid of his ass. Your only as good as your weakest member, and don`t tell me that the guys ` a great player. Doesn`t matter how good he is, if he forgot his fucking tools.


+100. Especially the "you're only as good as your weakest member" part. People like that WILL drag you down, and sometimes you don't even realize how much they've been dragging you down until they're gone. I put up with a lot more crap from people when I was really young, especially if the person was a friend and/or a good player, but after having people like that get in the way time and time again, you learn (hopefully).

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by Lee Flier


+100. Especially the "you're only as good as your weakest member" part. People like that WILL drag you down, and sometimes you don't even realize how much they've been dragging you down until they're gone. I put up with a lot more crap from people when I was really young, especially if the person was a friend and/or a good player, but after having people like that get in the way time and time again, you learn.

So what if you've got a band member that's a good friend, is reliable, but just not on the same ability level as the rest of the band?

[Lee Flier]

Originally posted by Knottyhed


So what if you've got a band member that's a good friend, is reliable, but just not on the same ability level as the rest of the band?

Yeah that's a tough one. I guess it depends on how much the person is really holding the band back, how big of a role they have in the band, and whether you can turn their weakness into a strength. That is, a lot of times people think the most monster player is the best person for a band, but that may not be the case. A lot of times someone who plays a simpler part that really works with the song, and is a great team player, is really the best person.

[fastplant]

Originally posted by riffdaddy
Our singer feels he should be the only one in the band to sing tunes. That would be fine if we did hour-long shows, but we play for three hours a night when we work. Consequently, his voice is slowly deteriorating. It wasn't that great to begin with. Now he's singing close to a half-step flat by the end of most nights. We finally made the decision (without him) to go ahead and assign a few tunes to different people in the group. What did he do? Double the lead vocal--out of tune.

Man, I've dealt with a few singers like this. Not only do they double the vocals out of tune, they raise their volume as high as they can to try and drown you out in fear that the audience will realize you're a better singer than him. Seems to happen quite regularly. It's like their ego is so more important than the job you're being paid to do.

[KillDozer]

I worked with a killer bass player that I eventually wanted to kill. He was a great player, but really clueless about gear and incredibly cheap as well. He'd never change the strings on his bass! They'd get old and cruddy and eventually break.

He would either then:

1. Play the rest of the gig with 2-3 strings on his bass (no spare strings of course). A lot of times he'd show up at the next gig with the same 2-3 strings, and no spares.

2. Tie a knot in the broken string and put it back on his bass. Needless to say this didn't do wonders for his intonation, and of course the string would break again in no time.

He'd also show up with cords that were alwys shorting out (replacing them was apparently out of the question), effects pedals with dead batteries, missing a strap. . .

In addition, he was always late coming back from breaks, never around to help load in/out, and once got in a fight with his girlfriend at a gig and took off in a huff for about an hour and half.

He later moved to L.A. and pulled the same shit - I think his musical career ended the night his (cheap, no-name) amp caught on fire during a showcase gig.

[riffdaddy]

Originally posted by fastplant


Man, I've dealt with a few singers like this. Not only do they double the vocals out of tune, they raise their volume as high as they can to try and drown you out in fear that the audience will realize you're a better singer than him. Seems to happen quite regularly. It's like their ego is so more important than the job you're being paid to do.

Yeah, the ego thing has gotten out of control with him. Suddenly all the tunes with guitar solos ended up in the first set. Then he more or less forced the bassist to fire the drummer (the new one is better, but I don't think that really matters). Now he's decided that I need to be in the back of the band next to the drummer because I look "out of place" (read: white).

[Lee Flier]

I take it this singer is the "leader" of the band and/or is considered the big draw of the band and therefore you can't just can him?

[ChitownTerror]

Awww.... I thought this thread was going to be one of those "How-To" threads. :mad: :(

[JBJ]

drummers tend to be the worst for winding me and the rest of the band. we're slowly catching up with spinal tap on the amount we've been through. sadly none of them have spontaneously combusted:(

anyways i'd be here all night talking bout drummers but probably the most out there one:

had a gig coming up, had just got rid of our last drummer for hanging out with his girlfriends mum instead of coming to practices. You read it right HER MUM

so this guy we know is filling in. turns up to the rehearsals before it so stoned he can't even hit his crash alot of the time.... we decide my bro will drum half the set and with me doing lead and rythmn then he'll finish up drumming.

we actually played really well and we were thinking maybe he might just be able to hack it....

as soon as we're off stage he disappears. some guy is cutting round the club later looking for him and we tell him he was with us but we don;t have a clue where he is or who he;s with.

turns out this nice gentleman was a fairly infamous drug dealer who didn't have a huge problem killing people he felt deserved it and it turned out the guy drumming for us was next on his hit list.

never seen the guy again.



our bass player has done some daft stuff but its just kinda stupid, if he ever done anythign serious he knows he;d literally get his ass kicked.

we;ll do acoustic breaks in sets and he'll decide he';d rather get another drink in instead of coming back on stage so we have to improv another acoustic set.

same thingforgetting cables n shit. when he does that he gets a 2 ft lead and sure enough for the forseeable future he'll have a lead with him.

as far as the only good as your weakest member part. that's kinda true I mean as far as playing goesm he is our weakest member. not shit by any stretch of the imagination but fuck ups as they are, our drummers are usually mad hot on them and me and my bro are no slouches on the guitars. thing is, we had a bit of a fall out a bout a year ago and i tried out another bassist and guitarist. the bassist was about as good as him and the guitarist could shred till the cows came home, but it just didn't fit or have the groove and feel we get.

moral of the story. people doing stupid things isn't necesarilly the end of the world and excellent players arent necesarilly the best for every band.

[riffdaddy]

Originally posted by Lee Flier
I take it this singer is the "leader" of the band and/or is considered the big draw of the band and therefore you can't just can him?

No, the bass player is the leader. We're sticking with the guy because we're playing a large festival gig in Springfield next weekend and we didn't want to learn three hours worth of new material. After the gig, however, it's me or him. As much as I like playing with these guys, it isn't worth it if he's around. He spoils gigs for us.

As for him being a big draw, he does very well at attracting young white girls who don't realize he's old enough to be their father (he's 47). When we play at clubs with older audiences, he doesn't fare nearly as well.

[Lee Flier]

Geez. Well good luck getting rid of him after the festival and hope you can find a real singer!

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by Lee Flier


Yeah that's a tough one. I guess it depends on how much the person is really holding the band back, how big of a role they have in the band, and whether you can turn their weakness into a strength. That is, a lot of times people think the most monster player is the best person for a band, but that may not be the case. A lot of times someone who plays a simpler part that really works with the song, and is a great team player, is really the best person.

I agree that it's not all about technical skill, i'm probably the most technically skilled member of my current band. My last band had a guitarist that was just as good as me, but I couldn't work with the guy. He'd start playing megadeath solo's between every take (you'd literally have to shout at him to stop so you could play the next song) and turn his amp to 11 every rehearsal, you'd tell him to turn down and it'd slowly creap back up - never even got gig ready. The guy could play, but really should never have left his bedroom as he couldn't cooperate with people in a band situation. Fortunately - whilst I can play some ripping solo's - I realise there's a time and a place and it should work with the music, rather than be played so loud it's all you can hear.

The problem with my keyboard player is that whilst he's a great team player he's often playing out of time and turning a few of our songs into a mess. We can get away with having him in the band, but if I'm honest we sound better without him. It becomes tricky because he's a good mate, really gets into the band and you're always hoping that he'll get better...

[ratthedd]

Originally posted by Hardtailed


Well the problem is that most soundman feel that the guitar is the only instrument that doesn't need to be heard... Wherever we play, it's always the same shit: only thing you can hear through the FOH are drums, bass and vocals. So when people complain to me during the break they cannot hear my guitar, and that I know that if I get the soundman to raise it, he'll bring it down as soon as we start again, I just crank my Marshall higher (like 4 instead of 3!). What am I to do?

Get a soundman who knows what he's doing.

By any chance, is your guitar amp pointed anywhere in the direction of the soundman? If so turn it away from him--guitar amps tend to be very narrow field.

[Badside]

Originally posted by ratthedd


Get a soundman who knows what he's doing.

By any chance, is your guitar amp pointed anywhere in the direction of the soundman? If so turn it away from him--guitar amps tend to be very narrow field.

Don't worry, I've figured that one out a while ago! When I set up, I always verify where the board is and try to aim in the opposite direction. I've tried "side-filling" as well.

It's also that most PAs are really bad at reproducing mids. What do you expect when the speakers only have a tweeter and a 15"? Our favorite soundman use 12" speakers in the tops and 18" subs instead. There's a reason he's our favorite...

I try to boost mids as much as possible on my amp and not use too much low-end. Still, it's like they're all afraid of making the guitar heard.

Problem is, we usually have to do with the venue's soundman. We usually play anywhere from 200 to 600kms from home, so we can't afford to pay a guy to follow us.

[BowerR64]

Singer didnt bring his microphone and cable then says to the sound guy "you dont have an extra microphone i can use? what kind of sound guy are you?"

How hard is it to bring a microphone? He was pissed when he had to drive 15 miles to get it 2 times because the first he forgot the key... lol

[Perfessor]

Originally posted by fuzzball
Trust me the sound man was not at fault here.

Hee Hee.

[Badside]

Originally posted by BowerR64
Singer didnt bring his microphone and cable then says to the sound guy "you dont have an extra microphone i can use? what kind of sound guy are you?"

Well truly, what kind of sound guy doesn't provide microphones?!?!

We always bring spares SM57/58 mics, but the only time we use them is when the sound guy wasn't informed that we need 4 vocal mics and two guitars.

[riffdaddy]

Originally posted by Lee Flier
Geez. Well good luck getting rid of him after the festival and hope you can find a real singer!

Here's what I've been thinking of proposing. Our keyboard player sings very well. His brother also plays keyboards and sings very well. I think it would be cool as hell to have an R&B band fronted by two brothers, both with sizeable keyboard rigs. Just have two large boards right next to eachother in the middle of the stage. The bassist can stand on the right and I'll stand on the left. I think that'd be the shit.

[GOSG]

Originally posted by Hardtailed


Don't worry, I've figured that one out a while ago! When I set up, I always verify where the board is and try to aim in the opposite direction. I've tried "side-filling" as well.

It's also that most PAs are really bad at reproducing mids. What do you expect when the speakers only have a tweeter and a 15"? Our favorite soundman use 12" speakers in the tops and 18" subs instead. There's a reason he's our favorite...




Listen to a set of these and you might change your mind...I didn't believe it until I heard them

http://www.nexo-sa.com/asp/catalogue/catalogue.asp?linkid=83

[Terry Allan Hall]

Originally posted by Hardtailed



It's also that most PAs are really bad at reproducing mids. What do you expect when the speakers only have a tweeter and a 15"? Our favorite soundman use 12" speakers in the tops and 18" subs instead. There's a reason he's our favorite...



That's the reason I'm using 10"s in my mains...the horn gives me highs and subs give me "thumpin'" bottom. :)

[Chad-Chicago]

Originally posted by Knottyhed


So what if you've got a band member that's a good friend, is reliable, but just not on the same ability level as the rest of the band?

My old man(RIP) told me about this the time I got the boot from my first band. He summed it up like this:
"Son, thats why they call it show-BUSINESS not show-FRIENDS. Some times you gotta make tough decisions and sometime you gotta take 'em." In other words, don't take it personal.

[AunShui]

The 2 bassists in my band are at war for the frontman/lead vocals/lead bass part. One of them, although a very talented bassist, MUST play the lead part for every single song (think of primus only 10 times worse), needs to be the loudest one in the mix, and is a stuck up bastard to boot. As such, my band has unofficially split into 2 groups, with me playing guitar in both groups. It sorta sucks when your best friends are at war and you're in the middle

[doctorno]

Well, practice was last night and our wonder drummer was greeted by a full page add for digital percussion box. He got a little upset and went for a walk.:D

[xonetruedesirex]

Originally posted by AunShui
The 2 bassists in my band are at war for the frontman/lead vocals/lead bass part. One of them, although a very talented bassist, MUST play the lead part for every single song (think of primus only 10 times worse), needs to be the loudest one in the mix, and is a stuck up bastard to boot. As such, my band has unofficially split into 2 groups, with me playing guitar in both groups. It sorta sucks when your best friends are at war and you're in the middle

What purpose does having two bass players serve?

Two guitars I understand, but two basses seems a bit much...

[Igneroid]

On Dec31/2002 about noon I started feeling a tad peekid and seein as my wife had just gotten over a major flu, I was worried as I had to play a Newyears gig in about 9 hours. I hit the bed and went to sleep, woke at 5 pm and started hurling like Linda Blair in the Exorcist. Then I started with the diarea, I coulda crapped thu the eye of a needle at 40 paces Im sure. I took a drink of water and it took mabey a miniute and the water was squirtin outta my ass.
I packed up a barf bucket and some extra clothes(cause I was worried about shitting my pants on stage) and headed off to the gig.
THe first two sets went well but Im sweating like a bastard and am scared to drink anything for the afformentioned reason(s). Im shakin like a dog shitting razorbalades when its time to go up for the BIGGASS Newyears thing(3rd set). AS Im bolting on my highdollar strat, the room starts to spin and and within a second I do a faceplant, Strat and all, right into Tony's Ayotte drums. Im out like an old woman, playin paddycake with the stage. Dint shit mysef, thank god, but the abulance came yaddayadda, I woke up in the hospital, I was dehydrated and some other shit too.

On the positive, a freind of mine, Byron Mikkaloff was in the audience(his band ONE TON from Quebec has/had a CD on the pop charts) filled in for me right off. Im still in the same band and the guys still ribb me alot about "passin out lika gurl"
With freinds like that, who needs enema's:D

[riffdaddy]

Originally posted by Percy
On Dec31/2002 about noon I started feeling a tad peekid and seein as my wife had just gotten over a major flu, I was worried as I had to play a Newyears gig in about 9 hours. I hit the bed and went to sleep, woke at 5 pm and started hurling like Linda Blair in the Exorcist. Then I started with the diarea, I coulda crapped thu the eye of a needle at 40 paces Im sure. I took a drink of water and it took mabey a miniute and the water was squirtin outta my ass.
I packed up a barf bucket and some extra clothes(cause I was worried about shitting my pants on stage) and headed off to the gig.
THe first two sets went well but Im sweating like a bastard and am scared to drink anything for the afformentioned reason(s). Im shakin like a dog shitting razorbalades when its time to go up for the BIGGASS Newyears thing(3rd set). AS Im bolting on my highdollar strat, the room starts to spin and and within a second I do a faceplant, Strat and all, right into Tony's Ayotte drums. Im out like an old woman, playin paddycake with the stage. Dint shit mysef, thank god, but the abulance came yaddayadda, I woke up in the hospital, I was dehydrated and some other shit too.

On the positive, a freind of mine, Byron Mikkaloff was in the audience(his band ONE TON from Quebec has/had a CD on the pop charts) filled in for me right off. Im still in the same band and the guys still ribb me alot about "passin out lika gurl"
With freinds like that, who needs enema's:D

I had a similar experience a few months back. I made the mistake of ordering a rather cheesy, milky dish off of the bar's menu about two hours before we played. About midway through second set, the food poisoning kicked in something awful. The band played about a dozen songs while I shat liquid fire on the can downstairs.

[MrKnobs]

Originally posted by fuzzball
Trust me the sound man was not at fault here.

+1

There's a reason you never let the guitarist mix the album.

Terry D.

[riffdaddy]

Originally posted by MrKnobs


+1

There's a reason you never let the guitarist mix the album.

Terry D.

Does it ever occur to anybody that there is another breed of guitar players out there that don't have the stereotypical ego/volume/tuning/solo time issues? Seek them out. They (we) exist.

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by riffdaddy


Does it ever occur to anybody that there is another breed of guitar players out there that don't have the stereotypical ego/volume/tuning/solo time issues? Seek them out. They (we) exist.

Nah - all drummers are stupid and all guitarists are ego-maniacs :rolleyes:

[riffdaddy]

Originally posted by Knottyhed


Nah - all drummers are stupid and all guitarists are ego-maniacs :rolleyes:

Actually, upon further consideration I think you may be right after all. Bow to my gloriousness. :D

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by riffdaddy


Actually, upon further consideration I think you may be right after all. Bow to my gloriousness. :D

Yeh - I'm not quite sure what Terry D is getting at. Why'd you want to 'mix' a song when you only need the lead guitar track in it anyway? All the other instruments are gay and can go to hell!!! :D

[greaseenvelope]

Originally posted by riffdaddy


Does it ever occur to anybody that there is another breed of guitar players out there that don't have the stereotypical ego/volume/tuning/solo time issues? Seek them out. They (we) exist.

I was playing with one for a while. Then he picked up a heroin habit. :( The only ones I've met since only want to be in a 2 person band with themselves and a drummer. :(

[Lee Flier]

Originally posted by MrKnobs

There's a reason you never let the guitarist mix the album.


Hey! I resemble that remark. :D

In all seriousness, being both a guitarist and engineer I DO mix our band's stuff... and if anything I might be a little too conscious about that, I've had people tell me I should turn the guitars UP... LOL.

But then again, we don't have a dumb drummer either. I guess we break ALL the stereotypes. :D

[Base]

I still have my doubts as to whether you really do play guitar Lee, I don't recall you ever even once referring to me or anyone else as 'DUDE!' :D

I think my band found the solution to the problem of borrowing equipment off the soundman of him being too expensive. We got one playing in the band, voila, van full of gear at every rehearsal and gig and someone that knows how to set it up!

Shame, he spends more time doing that that practicing sometimes tho :mad: :D

[Guitar Centaur]

Originally posted by fuzzball
I hate it when a guitar player feels that he is the only instrument that needs to be heard, during a song he will go to his amp and crank it up to 11.:mad:

I hate it when all those other pesky band members won't let my glorious dulcet guitar tones come ringing through. They alwyas have to muddy the mix up with all these other inconsequential instruments!

:mad:

[Lee Flier]

Originally posted by Base
I still have my doubts as to whether you really do play guitar Lee, I don't recall you ever even once referring to me or anyone else as 'DUDE!' :D


Dude, I have like so totally done that before. You must've missed it. :D

[Badside]

Originally posted by Crustycabs

I hate it when all those other pesky band members won't let my glorious dulcet guitar tones come ringing through. They alwyas have to muddy the mix up with all these other inconsequential instruments!
:mad:

Yeah, my bassist has this thinking that his instrument should be heard?!?!! WTF, who wants to hear the freaking bass?

:D

[SpacedCowboy]

Originally posted by Crustycabs


I hate it when all those other pesky band members won't let my glorious dulcet guitar tones come ringing through. They alwyas have to muddy the mix up with all these other inconsequential instruments!

:mad:

Switch out "dulcet guitar tones" with "thundering percussive hits" and I would swear you were our drummer...:(

[MrKnobs]

Originally posted by Lee Flier
In all seriousness, being both a guitarist and engineer I DO mix our band's stuff... and if anything I might be a little too conscious about that, I've had people tell me I should turn the guitars UP... LOL.

Me too.

My procedure is I mix the track until everything sounds about right to me, then turn the guitars down a couple dB.

;)

Terry D.

[Base]

Originally posted by Lee Flier


Dude, I have like so totally done that before. You must've missed it. :D

Awesome! :D

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by greaseenvelope


I was playing with one for a while. Then he picked up a heroin habit. :( The only ones I've met since only want to be in a 2 person band with themselves and a drummer. :(

What's the drummer for?

[Knottyhed]

Originally posted by Hardtailed


Yeah, my bassist has this thinking that his instrument should be heard?!?!! WTF, who wants to hear the freaking bass?

:D

I'm with ya bro!! Count yourself lucky - I have the same problem with my vocalist AND my bassist!!

[BC Powder]

Well, only the latest one comes to mind...

...played back in February at a honky tonk, did OK. Guitarist/singer was pissed at me before hand about something; he drank and drank and drank all night and got pissier.

At the end of the night they took a $10 bar tab off the top of our guarantee and he got up in the (much bigger and younger) bartender's face about it. I was so fed up with his shit I just stood back and watched, figured if the bartender lowered the boom I'd just let it happen.

We got barred from playing there again, and when I confronted him about it he tried to shift the blame onto me.

Asshole.

[MrKnobs]

Originally posted by riffdaddy
I've thought about throwing out picks, but with the goal of trying to land them in people's drinks. Is this wrong of me?

It's best if you light them first. The little tortoiseshell Fender Thins are amazing. They burn so rapidly they never even reach the crowd.

Well, usually they don't. :o

Terry D.