Peavey Classic 50/50 users!

[Musicman2000]

I just got one of these and will be replacing all the tubes soon.

I'm leaning towards JJ's as I've had good luck with them in the past. (I use them in my Mesa 20/20 )

Background:
I use the Peavey with a Triaxis and G Major.


So far I found the sounds of the 50/50 a bit more dementional, yet no where near as powerful as my 20/20.

Thanks Randall...

Still I like the speaker out options on the 50/50 as I run multiple cab configs.

I guess I'm interested in what other tube options folks are using which I may haven't considered.

[guitar2326]

I got a Peavey 50/50. The guy I bought it from replaced all the tubes with JJ's and included the originals with it. He said he bought the kind that gives more headroom and less breakup as the amp is driven. I leave the drive up to my JMP-1. So far, I've tried out the Peavey once (i dont own a cab yet, but I tried it though my friend's Mesa 4x12) and the tone I was getting was awesome! And I was really cranking it! It had to have been around 2 or 3 o'clock on mono, and I had my JMP-1 around 10 o'clock or so. Unfortunately, I didnt have enough time to switch 'em and see what they sounded like with the JMP-1 driven more, but from what I had heard, the Peavey was delivering some awesome, clear and clean tone. So, you cant go wrong with JJ's.

[Dr.Love]

Originally posted by Musicman2000
I just got one of these and will be replacing all the tubes soon.

I'm leaning towards JJ's as I've had good luck with them in the past. (I use them in my Mesa 20/20 )

Background:
I use the Peavey with a Triaxis and G Major.


So far I found the sounds of the 50/50 a bit more dementional, yet no where near as powerful as my 20/20.

Thanks Randall...

Still I like the speaker out options on the 50/50 as I run multiple cab configs.

I guess I'm interested in what other tube options folks are using which I may haven't considered.

Can you tell more about the difference between the 50/50 and the 20/20?
Did you get the 50/50 becouse the 20/20 wasn't loud enought?

I'm very very interested.

Thanks.

[BONGWATER]

I used to use the peavey 50/50 before I could afford my VHT 2150 and simulclass boogie(split signal)......for the price used you can't beat it.....its an excellent power amp....in fact if i had known i would be experiencing so many headaches with my boogie and abacus controller,..i would have kept the 50/50........live and learn,..anyways, ..I happen to still have the manual to the 50/50 not that it's really needed, but it does give some alternate routing schemes not to mention wiring diagrams and suck......ssooooo, if anyone needs or wants one drop me an e-mail...khanna1266@aol.com..and it's yours.......later

[Musicman2000]

Originally posted by Dr.Love


Can you tell more about the difference between the 50/50 and the 20/20?
Did you get the 50/50 becouse the 20/20 wasn't loud enought?

I'm very very interested.



I'm really happy with the Mesa 20/20's volumn and TONE.

I delved into using the Peavey 50/50 mostly for the cabinet options. i.e. (selecting 4 / 8 /16 ohm on each independant channel)

I have several cabs (twin GB GFlex 2x12, Mesa Recto 4x12) which I experiment with.

My message was just a poll to see if JJ's are the right ticket to use for the 50/50. I'm about 99% convinced.

I may also may try slaving the 20/20 into the 50/50 and see what that does to the sound.

[Dr.Love]

Originally posted by Musicman2000


I'm really happy with the Mesa 20/20's volumn and TONE.

I delved into using the Peavey 50/50 mostly for the cabinet options. i.e. (selecting 4 / 8 /16 ohm on each independant channel)

I have several cabs (twin GB GFlex 2x12, Mesa Recto 4x12) which I experiment with.

My message was just a poll to see if JJ's are the right ticket to use for the 50/50. I'm about 99% convinced.

I may also may try slaving the 20/20 into the 50/50 and see what that does to the sound.

Acording to the 20/20 manual, you can use 4, 8 and 16 ohms. cabs with it...

So far I found the sounds of the 50/50 a bit more dementional, yet no where near as powerful as my 20/20.

Do this mean that the 20/20 is louder than the 50/50??????

Thanks.

[Musicman2000]

Originally posted by Dr.Love


According to the 20/20 manual, you can use 4, 8 and 16 ohms. cabs with it...



Yes, however the 20/20 offers (2) 8 ohm and (4) 4 Ohm outputs.

Check out Peavey's 50/50 manual for the rear panel options and compare to the 20/20 and you'll see what I mean.

Does this mean that the 20/20 is louder than the 50/50??????

The 20/20 is far louder than Peavey's 50/50 (and most other) amps.

Mesa's engineering allows for very powerful low wattage amps

I like both amps for different reasons. If I had to choose only one, it would be the 20/20.

Hope this helps

[Lula]

Hi guys,
I have a MESA Maverick 1x12 combo and I was thinking about getting the 20/20 to use it, with the slave output of the Maverick, to power up another cab, but the slave output of the Mav is mono.
The question is: is it possible to use do do it or the poweramp only uses the stereo mode and I would be forced to use only one side at the time (A or B)?

[Lula]

Hi guys,
I have a MESA Maverick 1x12 combo and I was thinking about getting the 20/20 to use it, with the slave output of the Maverick, to power up another cab, but the slave output of the Mav is mono.
The question is: is it possible to use do do it or the poweramp only uses the stereo mode and I would be forced to use only one side at the time (A or B)?

[Dr.Love]

Originally posted by Musicman2000


Yes, however the 20/20 offers (2) 8 ohm and (4) 4 Ohm outputs.

Check out Peavey's 50/50 manual for the rear panel options and compare to the 20/20 and you'll see what I mean.

Does this mean that the 20/20 is louder than the 50/50??????

The 20/20 is far louder than Peavey's 50/50 (and most other) amps.

Mesa's engineering allows for very powerful low wattage amps

I like both amps for different reasons. If I had to choose only one, it would be the 20/20.

Hope this helps

Thnak you very much. You've been very helpful.

So the 20/20 is FAR louder... I'm very surprised.

Excuse two more questions please:

A) Being that loud, Does it sound "forced" or "bad" in anyway when you crank it to ten?

B) Can your CLEAN sounds be loud enough to be heard over a strong drummer and other guitar and a bass?

Thank you again.

[Musicman2000]

Originally posted by Dr.Love


So the 20/20 is FAR louder... I'm very surprised.

Don't be THAT'S MESA

Excuse two more questions please:

A) Being that loud, Does it sound "forced" or "bad" in anyway when you crank it to ten?

Once the EL84's are pushed they compress very nicely (musically)
I usually run volume at 9:00 - 10:00
Cranking to what you call ten would shake a good size hall.

B) Can your CLEAN sounds be loud enough to be heard over a strong drummer and other guitar and a bass?

Running all JJ's, clean sounds are real clear. It can definetely keep up if not pass others in you band.


Thank you again.

[Iceblade]

Musicman2000,

What preamps are you running with your 20/20? I'm having a God awful time trying to get good prog metal tones out of my TriAxis with a 20/20 and Mesa Recto Vertical 2x12. Just got some JJ's last night though.. need to pop those in later today... but I don't hold out alot of hope. I popped JJ's in my TriAxis shortly after getting it and I didn't notice any real difference from the Sovteks that were in there. :(

Later,
Jeff


Originally posted by Musicman2000
I just got one of these and will be replacing all the tubes soon.

I'm leaning towards JJ's as I've had good luck with them in the past. (I use them in my Mesa 20/20 )

Background:
I use the Peavey with a Triaxis and G Major.


So far I found the sounds of the 50/50 a bit more dementional, yet no where near as powerful as my 20/20.

Thanks Randall...

Still I like the speaker out options on the 50/50 as I run multiple cab configs.

I guess I'm interested in what other tube options folks are using which I may haven't considered.

[Musicman2000]

Jeff

I run a Triaxis (non-phat) version 2.0.

Phat vs non-phat have deliver very different tones so I feel it's important one is aware of their version.

Progressive Metal...
I've heard this has been somewhat of a challenge for the Triaxis.
Honestly, It's not really my flavor, so I won't be much help here.

As for tubes, I'm so fond of JJ's, I completely retubed my Peavey 50/50 (pre & Power) , my Triaxis and the power tubes on my Mesa 20/20.

I would suppose using the Lead 2 Red mode to approach prog metal territory might work.

Hope this helps

Musicman2000,

What preamps are you running with your 20/20? I'm having a God awful time trying to get good prog metal tones out of my TriAxis with a 20/20 and Mesa Recto Vertical 2x12. Just got some JJ's last night though.. need to pop those in later today... but I don't hold out alot of hope. I popped JJ's in my TriAxis shortly after getting it and I didn't notice any real difference from the Sovteks that were in there.

Later,
Jeff

[Iceblade]

Hey dude... got the new JJ's installed tonight... unfortunately, my daughter hit the sack so I have to wait until tomorrow to fire them up. I also have a version 2.0 TA without the fat mod... so we should be apples to apples on that comparison. Also, Lead 2 Red is my weapon of choice, so sounds like I am in the right neighborhood... I just need to get my tonal address nailed down. :)

Thanks again,
Jeff


Originally posted by Musicman2000
Jeff

I run a Triaxis (non-phat) version 2.0.

Phat vs non-phat have deliver very different tones so I feel it's important one is aware of their version.

Progressive Metal...
I've heard this has been somewhat of a challenge for the Triaxis.
Honestly, It's not really my flavor, so I won't be much help here.

As for tubes, I'm so fond of JJ's, I completely retubed my Peavey 50/50 (pre & Power) , my Triaxis and the power tubes on my Mesa 20/20.

I would suppose using the Lead 2 Red mode to approach prog metal territory might work.

Hope this helps

Musicman2000,

What preamps are you running with your 20/20? I'm having a God awful time trying to get good prog metal tones out of my TriAxis with a 20/20 and Mesa Recto Vertical 2x12. Just got some JJ's last night though.. need to pop those in later today... but I don't hold out alot of hope. I popped JJ's in my TriAxis shortly after getting it and I didn't notice any real difference from the Sovteks that were in there.

Later,
Jeff

[Musicman2000]

Sorry Jeff, I'm running non-phat, so I believe we're at different ends of the spectrum.

Might be some some of the reason you're not getting into the territory. Just my opinion, I by no means an expert.

Anyways, enjoy the JJ's... By the way, I used an ECC81 in V3 for cleans. Just my recipe.

Regards...

I also have a version 2.0 TA without the fat mod... so we should be apples to apples on that comparison.

[Iceblade]

MM2K,

I'm confused... when you say "I'm running non-phat", isn't that the same as me saying "without the phat mod"? I DO NOT have the phat mod done to my version 2.0 TA... same thing with yours, right?

Thanks for the tip on the ECC81.. I'll see what I think with the current JJ's and then switch if things start sounding bad.

Thanks,
Jeff


Originally posted by Musicman2000
Sorry Jeff, I'm running non-phat, so I believe we're at different ends of the spectrum.

Might be some some of the reason you're not getting into the territory. Just my opinion, I by no means an expert.

Anyways, enjoy the JJ's... By the way, I used an ECC81 in V3 for cleans. Just my recipe.

Regards...

I also have a version 2.0 TA without the fat mod... so we should be apples to apples on that comparison.

[Musicman2000]

I stand corrected...
I read your set-up too quickly and thought for some reason yours was phat modded.

Ours are in fact the same.

As for the ECC81, it won't neccessarily sound bad, just a tad milder.

Sorry 'bout the confusion.

BTW I still have my Peavey 50/50 (I'll keep it as a back-up) The 20/20 just has so many more advantages.

Anyway, Hope you get the tone you seek

[Iceblade]

Hehe... no problem on the mixup. Thanks for the well wishes. Thus far, it seems to sound better with the JJ's, but I will have to spend some serious quality time to see what I can come up with tone wise. The fact that my chops are so pathetically poor right now from not practicing for like 1.5 years is not helping things. I need to get back into some sort of routine... ugh!

Later,
Jeff


Originally posted by Musicman2000
I stand corrected...
I read your set-up too quickly and thought for some reason yours was phat modded.

Ours are in fact the same.

As for the ECC81, it won't neccessarily sound bad, just a tad milder.

Sorry 'bout the confusion.

BTW I still have my Peavey 50/50 (I'll keep it as a back-up) The 20/20 just has so many more advantages.

Anyway, Hope you get the tone you seek

[separanets]

My Peavey 50/50 sounds quieter than my Marshall 20/20. I've replaced tubes with new ones a few times. All the same. That's strange. Is any1 here who compared the peavey 50/50 to other amps? btw, the tone is ok, no complaints, just about loudness.