Using Line 6 PODxt Live with power amp

[JerEvil]

So, I got a minty xt Live for $175 last week. I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 that I am interested in trying out with the POD. Has anyone ever used one of these (or any other POD) with a tube power amp with any success? Any tips.

[elantric]

I have that combo available to me in my arsenal.

Be careful of loosing definition. A DSP emulated Tube amp feeding a Real Tube Amp can have poor results with the wrong settings. Try using Gearbox and turning the POD XT mic and Speaker sims "off" - and feed a guitar cab with your favorite speakers - mine are Celestion G12-80s

I actually prefer the original POD driving the Peavey Classic 50/50 - it was a lot easier finding a tone that worked. - but each person has a unique criteria and opinion of what sounds "right".

[JerEvil]

I have that combo available to me in my arsenal.

Be careful of loosing definition. A DSP emulated Tube amp feeding a Real Tube Amp can have poor results with the wrong settings. Try using Gearbox and turning the POD XT mic and Speaker sims "off" - and feed a guitar cab with your favorite speakers - mine are Celestion G12-80s

I actually prefer the original POD driving the Peavey Classic 50/50 - it was a lot easier finding a tone that worked. - but each person has a unique criteria and opinion of what sounds "right".

Gotcah. I just swapped the Metal Shop pack from my UX1 to this so I will start tooling around with it this weekend.

[germs]

I thought that running an XTLive into the "Return" on a Peavey Windsor would warm up the sounds and make it more authentic. I took that directly into an Avatar Contemporary 2x12 w/ Vintage 30's. Mic and Cab sims off, all that obvious stuff. It sounded okay, until...

I got lazy and loaded up a (much lighter) 150w SS head for practice one night and ran into the "Return" on that.

Night and Day.

It was like a blanket had been lifted from in front of my cab.

Drives were more articulate, FX worked better...you name it. Actually inspired me to get a Crate PowerBlock and try that out.

Should be arriving sometime next week.

[JerEvil]

I thought that running an XTLive into the "Return" on a Peavey Windsor would warm up the sounds and make it more authentic. I took that directly into an Avatar Contemporary 2x12 w/ Vintage 30's. Mic and Cab sims off, all that obvious stuff. It sounded okay, until...

I got lazy and loaded up a (much lighter) 150w SS head for practice one night and ran into the "Return" on that.

Night and Day.

It was like a blanket had been lifted from in front of my cab.

Drives were more articulate, FX worked better...you name it. Actually inspired me to get a Crate PowerBlock and try that out.

Should be arriving sometime next week.

Cool. You know Carvin has some pretty cheap SS power amps that are like 300 watts or something. I may try one of those out. I am eventually going to go to an AxeFX set up but it will be quite a while before I have $2K soooo...

[rdm]

So, I got a minty xt Live for $175 last week. I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 that I am interested in trying out with the POD. Has anyone ever used one of these (or any other POD) with a tube power amp with any success? Any tips.

I run my POD X3Live with a Mesa Boogie 2:50 power amp. I see you're here in Vegas. You're more than welcome to come by sometime and plug into my rig and check it out. I'm up off the 15 and Craig

[JerEvil]

I run my POD X3Live with a Mesa Boogie 2:50 power amp. I see you're here in Vegas. You're more than welcome to come by sometime and plug into my rig and check it out. I'm up off the 15 and Craig

Right on man, definitely! I'll PM you my cell number.

[chuskey]

So, I got a minty xt Live for $175 last week. I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 that I am interested in trying out with the POD. Has anyone ever used one of these (or any other POD) with a tube power amp with any success? Any tips.

I used to use the Peavey 50/50 with a Roland VG-88 with good results. I was running it through a Marshall 4x12 w/greenbacks.

I've since switched to the XT-Live and I'm just running it through a small tube combo now. I'm too lazy now to haul around separate power amp and 4x12 :) But I would image you could get great results using the 50/50 with the XT Live.

One thing that always works for me, and I'm sure you'll find differing opinions, is that I leave the speaker modeling on whenever I run it into an amp. I did that with the VG-88 and the XT-Live. I find it MUCH easier to get good tones this way, and the patches are usable with minor eq tweaking when I plug directly into a PA or recording interface.

Here's a video of me playing when I used the VG-88/Peavey 50/50 to give you an idea of the tone I got from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRWZfhtqr3I

Have fun with it!

[germs]

The XTLive is a bit of a different animal.

You definitely want to turn the cab sims off when running through a physical cab on stage. But then, that's why you also have like 30 or so banks to customize. You can have 1 for using your 4x12, one for using a 2x12, 1 for using a 1x12, one for going FOH, and on and on. The possibilities are darn near endless.

You want to leave the cab sims on when you're going through a good flat response speaker like PA or a powered monitor for at home jamming. It won't give you the response you're used to feeling, but it will reproduce the sounds.

Also, for those interested, the PowerBlock is working out quite nicely. I'm more than happy with it for now.

[chuskey]

The XTLive is a bit of a different animal.

You definitely want to turn the cab sims off when running through a physical cab on stage. But then, that's why you also have like 30 or so banks to customize. You can have 1 for using your 4x12, one for using a 2x12, 1 for using a 1x12, one for going FOH, and on and on. The possibilities are darn near endless.

You want to leave the cab sims on when you're going through a good flat response speaker like PA or a powered monitor for at home jamming. It won't give you the response you're used to feeling, but it will reproduce the sounds.

Also, for those interested, the PowerBlock is working out quite nicely. I'm more than happy with it for now.

I still leave the cab sims on with the XT Live going into a physical cabinet with great results. I was never able to get anything I was really happy with with the cab sims off, but then again I was pretty happy when I plugged in having them on so I never spent a lot of time tweaking it with the sims off.

In fact I've got a small tube combo I'm using now and I just run right into the front end of it. I know it's not the 'correct' way to do it because I'm running one pre amp into another, but I like the sounds I'm getting, so I'm sticking with it :) The nice thing is that I can run one output to FOH and one to the amp at the same time and not have to worry about needing different patches for each one.

What I'm doing is very similar to the setup that Lincoln Brewster uses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkT4tLiH32M

I think you can get great results either way if you tweak it accordingly. The most important thing is to follow your ears! Use the POD to find your sound and don't worry if the Marshall model doesn't sound JUST like a Marshall or whatever, just find what sounds good to you.

As you said the possibilities are pretty endless!

[germs]

I still leave the cab sims on with the XT Live going into a physical cabinet with great results. I was never able to get anything I was really happy with with the cab sims off, but then again I was pretty happy when I plugged in having them on so I never spent a lot of time tweaking it with the sims off.

What I'm doing is very similar to the setup that Lincoln Brewster uses:

I think I need to clarify, as LB does in the video, running into the front of an amp won't produce "great" tone. He's going straight FOH and using the amp (standard backline) as a stage monitor only for volume. And on larger stages, it's simply lost before it gets to the audience.

For those of us using a somewhat simpler setup (w/o the option of splitting the signal) especially with the XT, you primarily rely on one or the other onstage. Either you can mic your cab and play through that or go direct, there's really not much middle ground until you get to the X3.

[dwwave]

hi,

I do not post very often , I use a Atomic Reactor 18 watt 1x10 tube slave amp
with a Podxt (have 3 model packs bought quite awhile back the buy 2 get one free ) I do not have the bass pack but added some amps and mic preamps on
a update through Line 6 monkey and ? a bass amp amp have been in there?
I get very, nice results running like this (and have a Vox Tonelab) with its own
dock /template as well so no switching involved (to me the Vox unit is trickier
getting in the dock so I bought one for it as well as a template) This was when
the Atomic amps and the extra templates and docks were stocked by numerous online shops (the amp came from Sam Ash with Podxt template and dock, then bought the Vox Template and dock from two different shops due to availability (Sam Ash again and AMS) then later on found the universal
template (for non docking units ) from Banana's at Large on closeout(actually bought their last two as I knew some else who wanted one) the tubes really
bring out the Podxt (and while the Vox Tonelab has two tubes in it (it only further helps) I realize that Tom King merged Atomic Amps with Fractal Audio
(high end modeling equipment that is way out of my $$ range) and have not heard of any Atomics shipping (the 18 watts were on closeout, and the new
50 watt 1x10 or 2x10 (may be 12") were always on back order. There is a unofficial Atomic amp web site (just google that term) I have not been there
for some time but I did see a post from Tom King on Fractal Audio's forum


To me it was a great idea that for some reason ran in to issues that I am not aware of what they were or are and hope they come back as its a great way
to maximize the sound of modeling devices (I have also used a Roger Linn
III (updated from a II with a chip update through his site(and a new faceplate)very much improved sound wise and a few options added Reverb and Compression +more amp models)

I have heard of peope getting good results from Tech 21 power amps but ? are they not solid state? think that the posts here are very good ideas.

I never went for the live versions due to a bad back (3 spine surgeries) so having gear nearer me helps, and the PODX3 9correct me if I am wrong) i still hear complaints about white noise and sound drop offs, I like the two rigs at once and the running of ? 9 effetcs (if needed) I decided to add some individual units instead a E-H Stereo Memory Man with Hazari (very nice)
and a Boss SL-20 Slicer and just last month a E-H 2880 looper and foot controller (I debated models of loopers for over a year and am very pleased with the 2880 its pricey but a very cool tool that really helps you practice as well (its laid out like a Tascam Porta 2 (sort of) Well getting off course here
I have a Line 6 Variax 500 and Workbench Software as well (love both of them!)*sorry for the long post*
Cheers!
dwwave
:poke::deadhorse::blah::thu::wave:

[stratotak]

From what I have read..you get the best results by using a transparent amp.Like the Tech21 Power Engine.
http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/powerengine/powerengine60.html