Name Great Guitarists Who Have Receded With Age

[Cats-o-caster]

Elias Graves started the opposite thread, let's hear something here

[BG76]

1- Eric Clapton
2- Eddie Van Halen
3- CC DeVille
4- Diamond Darrell
5- Vinnie Vincent

[tkachuk07]

This guy.

http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery_images/0706/0000/0111/anglosaxon_skeleton_and_spearhead_from_blackhorse_ road_mid.jpg

[Artslinger]

None that I can think of.

[scuzzo]

buddy guy
robbie robertson

[Help!I'maRock!]

all of them.

[Cassette]

Jimi Hendrix. The whole "death" thing really put a damper on his playing

[The Beatles27]

peter green-not really his fault
eric clapton-kinda resurged w/ this whole blues thing though

[Coralkong]

Jimmy Page.

[strangegrey]

Without a doubt, Eddie Van Halen. Thread over...

in the 70s through early 90s, he was fucking inspiring. He couldn't make a mistake and he brought it hard, every night.

All one has to do is look at some of the youtubes of the sammy tour from 2004 or the DLR tour last summer...and it's clear he's fucking lost 90% of his mojo.


There are other guitarist out there that have gotten worse with age....Jimmy Page comes to mind, Steve Howe and Richie Sambora also come to mind.


But this thread is over....EVH tops this list by a fucking texas mile.

[Angry Tele]

clapton, page, yngwie

[strangegrey]

This guy.

http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery_images/0706/0000/0111/anglosaxon_skeleton_and_spearhead_from_blackhorse_ road_mid.jpg


That must be Hendrix, right?

[Cats-o-caster]

BTW, Kirk Hammet - "gimme my wah" syndrome grows....:evil:

[thecornman]

buddy guy
robbie robertson

Although I am a fan of both of them I would have to agree.

[sarssipius]

Johnny Winter
BB King (he is still good but he tends to have a dirty tone... 'though I would be happy to have just a tiny fraction of his talent)

I guess that's the fate of most of musicians when they reach a certain age... Sadly!

[hellion_213]

Have to say all those mentioned plus Mick Mars, and Joe Perry. Joe's always been about the blues to a point, but now, well he's in the same boat as Clapton. Nowhere near EVHs recession though. HthuH

[Hard Truth]

I saw BB three years ago, and although he doesn't have the energy he used to have as a performer, his playing and singing are still great. So I disagree.

Clapton seemed to decline quite a bit from the early seventies until about ten years ago. Now he's playing with plenty of enthusiasm, and while not as adventurous as he used to be, with plenty of skill.

[Cymro#1]

Clapton belongs in the opposite category. Anyone who saw the recent Cream concerts in RAH must agree that he was awesome. Truly excellent.

[Wyatt]

Clapton belongs in the opposite category. Anyone who saw the recent Cream concerts in RAH must agree that he was awesome. Truly excellent.

Nope.

Clapton was always a live show that never brought anything more than the album, no extra energy or life (saw him on the Journeyman and Reptile tours). And that's exactly what I hear on those RAH recordings as well. It's not that he's bad, so I won't say he's "receded," but he's pretty dull live.

[matt rhoades]

i would go with evh to i used to think ian moore was great to, but i don;t like his music one bit. The you tubes of evh playing last summer with wolfie didn't even sound like van halen was in time at all.

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

BTW, Kirk Hammet - "gimme my wah" syndrome grows....:evil:"Name Great Guitarists Who Have Receded With Age"

:poke:

[WakeTheDead]

Robin Trower

[larry50]

1- Eric Clapton
2- Eddie Van Halen
3- CC DeVille
4- Diamond Darrell
5- Vinnie Vincent

:facepalm:

[larry50]

buddy guy
robbie robertson

:facepalm:

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

:facepalm:Eddie isn't playing as well these days as he did when he was younger.

[larry50]

Eddie isn't playing as well these days as he did when he was younger.

I saw him live a few months ago, and he's playing better than ever IMO. He tapped out a Bach fugue that was crazy good. He can still play rings around most I think.

[Les Paul Lover]

This guy.

http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery_images/0706/0000/0111/anglosaxon_skeleton_and_spearhead_from_blackhorse_ road_mid.jpg

Actually, how do you know it was a guy?????

Mmmhh? :poke:

This could very well be a very offended dead lady by now!!!! :cop:

[sarssipius]

I saw BB three years ago, and although he doesn't have the energy he used to have as a performer, his playing and singing are still great. So I disagree.


I did too (but 5 years ago) but don't get me wrong, I am a fan and always will be. I'm not saying he's playing is bad... I'm just sayin' that he tends to have the "disease" of most blues guitarists when they grow old: his tone is dirtier, kinda heavy boogie tone which is not what he is famous for!! His touch on the fretboard and the strings became less precise than it used to be... But hey I'm doin' a comparison between the man when he was at 40 and now that he is 80... It's kind of unfair!!

[Lizards???]

Slash

[larry50]

Slash

He wasn't really that good to begin with, but Gibson loves him because he sort of re-popularized the Les Paul.

[Lizards???]

He wasn't really that good to begin with, but Gibson loves him because he sort of re-popularized the Les Paul.

True, but he sure seemed a lot better back when he soloed like he had something to prove.

Gibson likes him because he is marketable. He looks 'cool' in Guitar Hero and such, so a lot of people get to see his Les Pauls.

[blingdogg]

Eric Clapton definitely. I can't bear to listen to him these days, his material after Derek and the Dominos is IMHO garbage. On the other hand, his work up until then is some of the best ever (again, IMHO). He should've stuck to his Gibsons and playing in groups. While his pure guitar talent now may be more technically refined, it's not enjoyable to listen to.

Jimmy Page sadly, is but a shadow of what he used to be. Maybe it's the hard lifestyle he had in his youth that caught up with him, or he has trouble facing anxiety and pressure, but his playing nowadays is definitely not as impressive as in his prime during the early 70s.

[bluefoot]

schenker.

[dimner]

1- Eric Clapton
2- Eddie Van Halen
3- CC DeVille
4- Diamond Darrell
5- Vinnie Vincent

How can anyone honestly think DeVille was actually a good guitarist? Catchy tunes were made by that band, but damn he was a waste of a spot in that line up.

[NITROHOLIC]

another +100000 for EVH

worries more about his 401K and stock portfolio then playin on time worth a damn.

its a damn shame.

[Minnie The Moocher]

all of them.

Right. Except Jeff Beck.

[aenemated]

He wasn't really that good to begin with

yeah, he only wrote some of the most instantly recognized riffs and solos of all time. no big deal.

[larry50]

yeah, he only wrote some of the most instantly recognized riffs and solos of all time. no big deal.

That doesn't necessarily mean he was a great guitarist, though. I think there are still much better. But, I concede your point, since his fame, popularity and success speak for itself. The same can be said (talking about his detractors) of Eric Clapton as well, except that Clapton is a far better guitarist than Slash..

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

Slash has done plenty of great solos and riffs, and his technique is good. I don't see why he shouldn't be considered a great guitarist.

[Help!I'maRock!]

Right. Except Jeff Beck.

he may not have receded yet, but he will.

[VanLaing5150]

As big of an EVH fan as I am...this thread was over the first time someone said EVH...2004 and 2007 tours proved the guy has lost a ton of his mojo...

[Northstar]

All of them.

[Yngtchie Blacksteen]

As big of an EVH fan as I am...this thread was over the first time someone said EVH...2004 and 2007 tours proved the guy has lost a ton of his mojo...http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/nerveinsider/2008/04/08-15/Austin_Danger_Powers_Mike_Myers.jpg

[Dr_Kuh]

Calling one of the best live guitarists and one of the most important guitarists ever "dull" is really....:confused::blah:
Why does Eric get bashed that much on these forums? He has still got it...sure he was a bit "weak" in the 80's but he is on fire since the synthi-pop-bummbang Phil Collins left his touring band...(although i really like Mr. Collins)...he switched to strats because his 2nd best friend ever died and he gets even less sympathy for paying respect to another god of guitar....

@Topic: Don Felder really receded much in the last years IMO

[larry50]

Calling one of the best live guitarists and one of the most important guitarists ever "dull" is really....:confused::blah:
Why does Eric get bashed that much on these forums? He has still got it...sure he was a bit "weak" in the 80's but he is on fire since the synthi-pop-bummbang Phil Collins left his touring band...(although i really like Mr. Collins)...he switched to strats because his 2nd best friend ever died and he gets even less sympathy for paying respect to another god of guitar....

@Topic: Don Felder really receded much in the last years IMO

Yeah, whatever happened to Felder. Seems to be spending a lot more time in Court than making good music. Falling back on an Eagles reunion tour seemed rather lame.

[GUITKRAZY]

While I have to agree with most that it seems EVH just doesn't kick it as well as he did esp in the Sammy era. He was articulate and right on during the sammy era- I never saw a bad performance when he played with Sammy or even dare I say Cherone! but when they did the Hagar reuniom back in 2004 Eddie was nowhere near his best- I figured it was health and his demons of abuse, then when they reunited with Roth he was ok, but he was really sloppy and not as precise.
For Clapton I have to disagree. The man is spot on, I never saw a bad performance by EC. While true he plays to the record doesn't venture out of that box live; the man is a true professional. I would also argue that Jimmy Page has receded, in the early zeppelin days he was sloppy and not at all on. Now he seems more clean and precise. Just my opinions.:rolleyes:

[Cymro#1]

Sorry but I never heard Eric play a dull note. Were we watching the same RAH concerts?? He was phenomenal. He has superb control and beautiful phrasing and plays with feeling - every note.The man just oozes quality. Get real guys!

[larry50]

Sorry but I never heard Eric play a dull note. Were we watching the same RAH concerts?? He was phenomenal. He has superb control and beautiful phrasing and plays with feeling - every note.The man just oozes quality. Get real guys!

+1, and setting aside that he is the cleanest flatpicker around. Never a muffed note, not ever.

[blingdogg]

Sorry but I never heard Eric play a dull note. Were we watching the same RAH concerts?? He was phenomenal. He has superb control and beautiful phrasing and plays with feeling - every note.The man just oozes quality. Get real guys!I liked his more passionate, aggressive playing when he was a lad. To me he doesn't have that fire anymore, at least in the same way.

The songs he plays now are so watered down and boring. That's the sad thing....his work before he went solo is some of my favorite music to listen to, but the slower, ballad-like blues songs he does now, I can't listen to. I feel the same about Robert Plant (not a guitarist, but he changed too as a singer). I guess I can't blame them for maturing and getting older though. Can't stay wild, aggressive drug-using young adults forever huh.

[drawdeep]

Sad to say, but age and arthritis have left Les Paul's playing a shadow of what it once was.

Still a great player and a heck of a storyteller, but nowhere near his peak.

[Ratae Coritanorum]

Nope.

Clapton was always a live show that never brought anything more than the album, no extra energy or life (saw him on the Journeyman and Reptile tours). And that's exactly what I hear on those RAH recordings as well. It's not that he's bad, so I won't say he's "receded," but he's pretty dull live.

I was "treated" to a night at the RAH in 2006 by a well meaning relative, I've never felt so peeved in my life at a gig. I really did want to get up and leave and just go somewhere else, I found a complete lack of passion from a player who is obviously pretty decent, but just seems to go through the motions, I don't know whether this is classed as "receding", as quite obvioulsy the man can still play, but that's all he can do:idk:


Robin Trower

Hmmm, not really, he's still cutting mustard,but most of all he has a good time when he plays


Slash

Nope


Right. Except Jeff Beck.

Yup:thu:


That doesn't necessarily mean he was a great guitarist, though. I think there are still much better. But, I concede your point, since his fame, popularity and success speak for itself. The same can be said (talking about his detractors) of Eric Clapton as well, except that Clapton is a far better guitarist than Slash..

Hmmm, better in what way? Slash is way more involved with his guita than Clapton is these days


Calling one of the best live guitarists and one of the most important guitarists ever "dull" is really....:confused::blah:
Why does Eric get bashed that much on these forums? He has still got it...sure he was a bit "weak" in the 80's but he is on fire

Clapton is many things, but "on fire" is NOT one of them


Sorry but I never heard Eric play a dull note. Were we watching the same RAH concerts?? He was phenomenal. He has superb control and beautiful phrasing and plays with feeling - every note.The man just oozes quality. Get real guys!

Feeling? Is this the same Eric Clapton? He looks like a guy simply raking it in.....kerching, another few million for not a lot...it says a lot that he can only be bothered laying on gigs at places like the RAH, and doesn't go out on the road, basically cause he can't be arsed

[Pinkrudy]

i might get flammed.

but my mentor, my idol, my GOD david gilmour um sux to me now. since after the final cut actually.

it makes me sad as hell to say it. oh well he doesnt care.

[Ratae Coritanorum]

i might get flammed.

but my mentor, my idol, my GOD david gilmour um sux to me now. since after the final cut actually.

it makes me sad as hell to say it. oh well he doesnt care.

Don't worry man, you just don't have a fucking clue:thu:

DG is as high if not higher than he's ever been

[mrbrown49]

Don't worry man, you just don't have a fucking clue:thu:

DG is as high if not higher than he's ever been

:thu: I think I mentioned him in EGs thread. Is style is a bit different now, but his playing is growing in another direction. I think his voice has been spot on the last few years as well.

[larry50]

i might get flammed.

but my mentor, my idol, my GOD david gilmour um sux to me now. since after the final cut actually.

it makes me sad as hell to say it. oh well he doesnt care.

What?!? Did you even see Live in Gdansk? He's better than ever.

Better grab your flame suit.

[mrbrown49]

What?!? Did you even see Live in Gdansk? He's better than ever.

Better grab your flame suit.

:thu:

[hare.29]

"Name Great Guitarists Who Have Receded With Age"
Receded? Like, got smaller as they went further away?

[mrbrown49]

"Name Great Guitarists Who Have Receded With Age"
Receded? Like, got smaller as they went further away?

My hair has receded. :facepalm:

[Nardis]

i might get flammed.

but my mentor, my idol, my GOD david gilmour um sux to me now. since after the final cut actually.

it makes me sad as hell to say it. oh well he doesnt care.
:eek:

Are you paying attention to what he's crafted over the past few years?

If you have not heard On an Island or seen Remember that Night or Gdansk, you owe it to yourself to check back in with him :cop:

I'll agree that the 3-man Floyd of the Momentary Lapse era put up some fairly dry, by-the-numbers 'floyd' product, but he has moved on.

DG has moved on, my friend :thu:

[Nardis]

I think Jimmy Page walks away with this one.

[Cymro#1]

I was "treated" to a night at the RAH in 2006 by a well meaning relative, I've never felt so peeved in my life at a gig. I really did want to get up and leave and just go somewhere else, I found a complete lack of passion from a player who is obviously pretty decent, but just seems to go through the motions, I don't know whether this is classed as "receding", as quite obvioulsy the man can still play, but that's all he can do:idk:



Hmmm, not really, he's still cutting mustard,but most of all he has a good time when he plays



Nope



Yup:thu:



Hmmm, better in what way? Slash is way more involved with his guita than Clapton is these days



Clapton is many things, but "on fire" is NOT one of them



Feeling? Is this the same Eric Clapton? He looks like a guy simply raking it in.....kerching, another few million for not a lot...it says a lot that he can only be bothered laying on gigs at places like the RAH, and doesn't go out on the road, basically cause he can't be arsed

C'mon ..what you expect the man to do ..somersaults through rings of fire!!!
His appearance with Cream was blistering. A three piece band, just three guys up there and Clapton kept the whole concert going , never letting up, always producing those superb slow emotional blues bends and through to quick fire shots of lightening trademark licks that he and only he has made his own over the years. Not one buffed note all evening. We should be proud of musicians like this who can still cut it in their mid 60s and who could show a lot of younger shreddies the way to go. Money yes. Millions yes of course. No different to any other musician who made it big through ability and hard work. Football stars get paid more for far less. And he tours places all the time. Places where ordinary people like me can go and see him. I wouldn't expect him to tour town halls!!!

[larry50]

At this point, Clapton hardly needs to play for money. He's one of the wealthiest rock musicians on the planet. Even if he never played another note, he would still be raking in millions each year in royalties.

[Cymro#1]

At this point, Clapton hardly needs to play for money. He's one of the wealthiest rock musicians on the planet. Even if he never played another note, he would still be raking in millions each year in royalties.

No different to many, many other musicians. What's your point?

[larry50]

I was merely responding to your comment that Clapton is playing "like a guy simply raking it in ...", which is simply untrue.

[Cymro#1]

I was responding to your comment that Clapton that is playing "like a guy simply raking it in ...", which is simply untrue.

Excuse me but I didn not say that. Check the threads again

[larry50]

Sorry about that. It was Ratae's comment that I was apparently responding to. No offense intended.

[Jeffmo]

EVH

[Cymro#1]

Sorry about that. It was Ratae's comment that I was apparently responding to. No offense intended.

No problem friend:thu:

[mikey4402]

Clapton. I have seen interviews where he will admit it himself.

I saw Clapton last summer and although he didnt show much emotion on stage (which he never really did in the first place) his tone and playing were very good. Not as good as his earlier stuff but better then most guitarest touring right now.

Also you have to give it to him. He is around 65 now and he does a world wide tour about every year.

[Ratae Coritanorum]

Sorry about that. It was Ratae's comment that I was apparently responding to. No offense intended.

Divide and conquer;)

[larry50]

Divide and conquer;)

:D

[vinylphile]

Randy Rhoads

[uberthrall]

EVH is a no brainer........in more ways than one unfortunately. Also, whoever mentioned Michael Schenker is 100% right too. Really a shame, I loved both of these guy's playing in their prime.

I got another one......Brad Whitford. Contrary to popular belief it was Whitford and not Perry who was the real guitar force in Aerosmith. I haven't heard anything special guitarwise from them in a very long time.

[Ratae Coritanorum]

Randy Rhoads

Receded, not decayed:facepalm: