New DAW to be introduced at Messe

[Anderton]

This is secret advance word stuff, but...PreSonus will be introducing a DAW at Messe called Studio One for Mac OS and Windows XP/Vista.

Just what we need...another DAW. Right?

Well, looking over the prelim specs, it seems like they're taking a different, more holistic approach to what a "project" is - there's mastering, and even the ability to store I/O configurations for each song, computer, and device driver. There's also integration with PreSonus interfaces, with preprogrammed templates. My guess is that they're trying to combine power with something that has a more fluid workflow, and it will be interesting to see if they've succeeded.

I really shouldn't say more because if I do, I think the PreSonus people would ask me to take this down...but I'll give you details on April 1, when the show starts. Meanwhile, if this isn't here tomorrow, you'll know what happened :)

[myfriendfive]

Studio One and a Openlabs keyboard could be a cool all-in-one setup. I say because Openlabs use Presonus interfaces in there keyboards.

:thu:

[kwilson]

I wonder how this Studio One relates to their Capture software that is supposed to come with their StudioLive 16.4.2 console? A more beefed up version perhaps?

[AluminumNeck]

Could you mention to them that Maybe support for a few alternative Operating systems might be a smart thing to do. Maybe Hiaku or something along those lines. I know I really am starting to dislike windows and its cpu hungy inefficient code.

[Anderton]

Maybe a Linux version that runs on Netbooks! That would be cool.

[AluminumNeck]

Well Hiaku released a GGC4+ compilier for C++ so it should be an easy port. I am already trying to get lexicon to release the specs on the omega hardware to beging my controbution for a usb based device driver for compatability there and being its what I currently have its a good starting point.

Hiaku has some serious advantages when it comes to handling things like wav data etc.

If you remeber the old Be-Os stuff this is the logical exstension of that.

Se what they say. Whats the worst that happens. No ?Its a No until its a yes.

[felix]

http://www.presonus.com/products/SoftwareDetail.aspx?SoftwareId=11

Studio One is a groundbreaking music creation and production application for Mac OS X and Windows XP/Vista that makes audio recording, MIDI sequencing, and audio mastering ridiculously simple right out of the box, yet provides a wealth of professional features.

Fresh code, innovative drag-and-drop MIDI mapping and plug-in management, auto-configuration with PreSonus hardware, insanely good audio quality, unlimited tracks and plug-ins per track, and a powerful, inventive Start page that literally puts the whole project right in your hands are just a few of the compelling features that make Studio One the next generation in audio software. Far from just another music-production program, Studio One changes the rules of the game, giving you a complete, easy-to-use solution from raw tracks to finished master, while supporting the latest standards and technologies.

•*Elegant single-window work environment
• Powerful drag-and-drop functionality
• Unlimited audio tracks, MIDI tracks, virtual instruments, buses, and FX channels
• Content browser with convenient sort options and preview player
• Integrated mastering solution with automatic mix updating, waveform editing, effects, Red Book CD burning, and digital release
• Automatic delay compensation
• Advanced automation
• 64-bit processing (even on 32-bit machines)
• Easy-to-use sidechain routing
• Awe-inspiring 64-bit effects suite
• Stunning virtual instruments
• User-friendly sampler
• Most intuitive MIDI-mapping system available
• Real-time audio timestretching and resampling
• AU, VST2, VST3, and ReWire support
• K System metering
• Gigabytes of inspiring content
• Compatible with any ASIO-, Windows Audio-,or Core Audio-compliant audio interface

[Ernest Buckley]

Great! Another DAW! :bor:

To compete with the current DAWS: LIVE, LOGIC, DP, not to mention the PC stuff... this better be awesome or they might as well just save their $$$ and continue to produce project studio hardware.

[AluminumNeck]

How about a DAW that support an operating system that actually work better then MAC and Windows ? Wouldn;t that be peechy. How about a DAW integrated into a OS ? That would fucking rock. Pure optimization from the start.

[girevik]

This is secret advance word stuff, but...PreSonus will be introducing a DAW at Messe called Studio One for Mac OS and Windows XP/Vista.

Just what we need...another DAW. Right?
<snip>
My guess is that they're trying to combine power with something that has a more fluid workflow, and it will be interesting to see if they've succeeded.


I think that's the whole point behind Presonus introducing their own DAW, but I dunno if it's going to be as groundbreaking as a new DAW as Ableton Live was when it first came out.

[AluminumNeck]

Looking at the presonous DAW layout it looks pretty fucking killer.

[FastRedPonyCar]

if it has support for softsynth stuff like superior drummer, I may give it a whirl.

[AluminumNeck]

I talked with presonous tech support this morning. It does in fact support most VST plugins.

if it has support for softsynth stuff like superior drummer, I may give it a whirl.

[depulse]

Who has programmed this for Presonus?

I have a hard time believing that a company making mainly hardware such as preamps and audio interfaces suddenly overnight knits together a full DAW complete with 25+ effects. It is totally missing any kind of software synths though, but that might be added later on.

Whom or what did they buy?

Any idea of the price? Considering the gaining popularity for Reaper, do we need another wannabe if it doesn't bring something new to the table?

[kristallabs]

Actually, we did it ;-)

Not over night, but over the last three years.

http://www.kristallabs.com

Cheers

[lonotes]

MSRP?

[AluminumNeck]

when I talked with Presonous today somewhere around $499 retail. They seemed to think $399 was the selling price. Also most of the new Presonous gear sometime in the summer will start shipping with a Light version like cubase LE thats a bit stripped down.

[AluminumNeck]

could you try supporting a different OS please ? Seriously ! Please ? i really hate windows. They even have a compiler ready to go for ya ! hell I will buy a presonous inteface today and be the alpha tester for ya.


http://www.haiku-os.org/

Actually, we did it ;-)

Not over night, but over the last three years.

http://www.kristallabs.com

Cheers

[MikeRivers]

Sounds like they had the same things in mind as the folks who created Tracktion (single screen, workflow, blah blah). Does anyone like Tracktion?

I'm sorry, but I don't want any new paradigms for workflow in a DAW. The console+recorder one works just fine, makes perfectly good sense, and can be explained to anyone in five minutes. DAWs all do the same thing but they all try to do it differently and it's just confusing unless you stick with just one - and then it becomes outdated.

[spokenward]

Actually, we did it ;-)

Not over night, but over the last three years.

http://www.kristallabs.com

Cheers

http://www.kristallabs.com/en_US/index.php?id=company

welcome!

[Thamel]

Yes, it's another DAW, but a great effort by PreSonus and it looks pretty damn good!

Here is a demo from Musikmesse:
http://general-sequencer.presonus.en.audiofanzine.com/videos/index,id_video,280,idproduit,144083.html

[Ernest Buckley]

Looks like they are trying to do everything with this... juxtapose the features of LIVE, REASON and your average DAW for those of us dedicated to our current DAWs. I`m not impressed. Just another middle of the road device.

[Geoff Grace]

Great! Another DAW! :bor:

To compete with the current DAWS: LIVE, LOGIC, DP, not to mention the PC stuff... this better be awesome or they might as well just save their $$$ and continue to produce project studio hardware.

Well, it's going to be 64-bit and support both VST and AU. Those two features alone make it stand out on the Mac platform.

Actually, we did it ;-)

Not over night, but over the last three years.

http://www.kristallabs.com

Cheers

http://www.kristallabs.com/en_US/index.php?id=company

welcome!

Nice resume! Yes, welcome!

Best,

Geoff

[Anderton]

The way it integrates mastering into the sequencing process isn't in any other DAW; Sequoia/Samplitude comes closest, but Studio One is ahead in that respect.

Some of the UI stuff is really, really clever, too. There will be a full video, but there's more on it in the Day 3 highlight video from Messe in the Frankfurt Musikmesse coverage.

[SoundsAndGear]

Man, for them to put out another DAW it better be dope! Not that I'm looking for another DAW...BUT...if they make the recording process pretty straight forward, it could definitely be a good fit for the openlabs products.

[Lawrence Farr]

Great! Another DAW! :bor:

To compete with the current DAWS: LIVE, LOGIC, DP, not to mention the PC stuff... this better be awesome or they might as well just save their $$$ and continue to produce project studio hardware.

HEY!!! Whatch' doing with my wife as your avatar? :thu: :mad:

Halle loves me and only me... no one else... only me... forever and ever... :facepalm:

[Ernest Buckley]

She can love you all she wants... I have other ideas...

[strangedogs]

Well, it's going to be 64-bit and support both VST and AU. Those two features alone make it stand out on the Mac platform...

that would be nice. I currently have a few VST's that I love to use and the FX Wrapper app can't seem to convert properly so I have to use Cubase 4 AI when I want to use them - normally I use Logic. Being able to use VST's and AU's would be SCHAWEEET! Hopefully we'll see it soon and it won't cost an arm & a leg.:thu: