GuitarFetish.com Engaged in False Advertising

[GordonFreeman]

If you happen to have a USA Strat with 2-point tremolo, don't order the USA Strat- 2 point Hardened Steel Tremolo Systems!

Their description states
"Next we threw out the thin, lightweight tapered block that the big "F" uses and put a FULL-SIZED, STEEL SUSTAIN BLOCK on this bad boy."

That is a LIE. They don't show clear photos of the tremolo block underneath, and ordering it will turn into a bitter disappointment.

PS: upon further investigation of the carefully concealing photos in the site, you can tell by the photo that the tremolo block is NOT full size - as it would appear bigger, even from that angle:

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-50206111187217_2030_9178936

[joeya]

OK, send it back. geez

[jjpistols]

I heard GuitarFetish shot Abe Lincoln

[DaveAronow]

I heard GuitarFetish shot Abe Lincoln

No. That was Gabe Caplain.

Sorry.

[tlbonehead]

No. That was Gabe Caplain.

Sorry.
was he married to Toni Tennille?

[rrrajo]

No. That was Gabe Caplain.

Sorry.

Welcome back, Welcome back.

[cavpilot]

you want a big block? what size?
8.3 liter big enough for ya?
Here ya go...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/cavpilot/shitpile13/boss_hoss_502_big_block.jpg

top speed: 255 mph.

[A3C]

you want the block? come get the block...

[donsimon76]

I hear that JayLo is still Jenny from the Block.

[bluedevil0204]

what a tool this guy is.

Man jay is a good guy. Email him. He will get you right.

Whats wrong with people like this?

[Samnite]

what a tool this guy is.

Man jay is a good guy. Email him. He will get you right.

Whats wrong with people like this?People always seem to want to discredit Jay. Forget 'em.

[ThudMuffin]

I hear that JayLo is still Jenny from the Block.

JLo is actually Jay Leno.

[Omar Rodriguez]

you want the block? come get the block...

:mad:

[ermghoti II]

JLo is actually Jay Leno.


Hmmmmm. [pictures Leno's chin in a thong]

Also: for anybody who doesn't know, the OP is full of poop. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2198395

[satannica]

I have all my blocks specially made by a Swedish guy with a mullet. I know his blocks are made from absolutely 100% titanium and nothing will ever break them. Therefore all my blocks are superior in every way to you and all your bastard kind!

[Fireproof777]

I have all my blocks specially made by a Swedish guy with a mullet. I know his blocks are made from absolutely 100% titanium and nothing will ever break them. Therefore all my blocks are superior in every way to you and all your bastard kind!

:thu: I think I know that guy! :lol:

[customtele]

Saw this thread on the electric guitar forum as well. I know from first hand experience that Jay will either make it right or offer a refund. If you're having a negative experience with GFS, you're probably coming across as the lowest part of the digestive system & they don't want to put up with your bovine feces.

[LvVein]

Im with you brotha! guitarfetish did me dirty too! I ordered a whammy bar for my tune-o-matic and when I couldn't find anywhere to shove it I started pouting on a forum... and nobody cared :cry:

[adlo76]

damnit. i'm calling the law.

this damn thread is affecting the post count of the other thread.

not cool man.

not.
cool.

[keNz]

There's a Counterfeit forum?!

[adlo76]

There's a Counterfeit forum?!

that's good to know incase anyone starts counterfeiting fuck sauces

[Guitarfetish]

The OP is lying here.

The item he received is EXACTLY the one we show on the site. It DOES NOT have a weight relieved, zinc block. It has an extra FAT full sized block made of STEEL- It's as physally large as the two point gemoetry will allow without hitting the cavity walls- Not bad for Forty bucks eh?

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3006/trem2fp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3478/trem1ms5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sinster]

Being someone who purchase a lot of stuff from Guitarfetish.com. I have never received an item that wasn't what it was described. I purchased a tele bridge and I finally got around to installing it 6 months later. The saddle pulled right off the screw. I e-mailed Jay and without a single issue he mailed me a new saddle/screw. That's what I like in a company is customer service. People will eventually ruin a good thing..

The only thing I don't like about buying my stuff from GF is the damn tax I have to pay ;)

[ermghoti II]

There's a Counterfeit forum?!

Yup. It isn't really a forum, only a substandard Asian copy. They call it... Open Jam!

[JrMaFia]

I am happy with my guitar whenever i bring it to play people do double takes of my strat copy and think it is some expensive luthier made model

[LvVein]

BTW Mr. Jay I didnt really buy a wahmmy bar, cry and all that... just jokes

But I did order a bunch of stuff for a tele project and am 100% satisfied :thu:

[GordonFreeman]

The OP is lying here.

Of course, because you're such a nice guy.

The item he received is EXACTLY the one we show on the site. It DOES NOT have a weight relieved, zinc block. It has an extra FAT full sized block made of STEEL- It's as physally large as the two point gemoetry will allow without hitting the cavity walls- Not bad for Forty bucks eh?

The "2 point geometry" - wow you know how to BS nice and good. You should be a car salesman.

Yeah I guess it's as "physally" large as allowed... except for the chunk that is not there to allow the super awesome pop in tremolo arm, which is a totally kick ass feature. Why didn't Leo "F" think of it before? Take a piece out of the block, to allow for more comfortable trem arm insertion, and not tell the customers that they're actually not buying Full Size in the true meaning of the word - just "full size" considering that you can't make it bigger because of the non-standard, import metal plate it's attached to. And then lower the price and let them find out why

[adlo76]

did our thread get deleted???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Guitarfetish]

The "2 point geometry" - wow you know how to BS nice and good. You should be a car salesman.

Dude- Seriously...

The two point trems mount on STUDS- the trem sits up above the body of the guitar- Leo didn't do it this way because he had no idea how to- These trems take a non-patented feature of the Floyds and uses it- Two studs produces far less friction than size bearing points yet offers excellent sustain transfer. Somehow bolting the block from a 6 screw trem onto this is just stupid- Why would anyone do that? We say it's FULL SIZED- not "Full Height" or whatever particular single dimension that has your panties in a bunch.

many, many people prefer the sound of a stud-mounted trem- and of course tuning stability and tremolo range is enhanced.

Putting the trem arm in the block is fine as well- but the separate arm socket like we do it just works better- so we made the block fatter from front to back to get extra mass.

The bottom line here is the design of this unit is pretty sound and very, very well thought out. Now i can't claim that the metal finishing is to the quality of a Callaham unit- of course it's not- but it's pretty good- and functionally i would say that this is the equal of anything out there- and for the complete kit with springs, screws, studs and claw for $39 I think it is a fair price.

And given the no-restocking fee return policy- We are happy to issue a refund or swap this for a 6 screw trem with vintage sized block.

[GordonFreeman]

Dude- Seriously...

The two point trems mount on STUDS- the trem sits up above the body of the guitar- Leo didn't do it this way because he had no idea how to- These trems take a non-patented feature of the Floyds and uses it- Two studs produces far less friction than size bearing points yet offers excellent sustain transfer. Somehow bolting the block from a 6 screw trem onto this is just stupid- Why would anyone do that? We say it's FULL SIZED- not "Full Height" or whatever particular single dimension that has your panties in a bunch.

many, many people prefer the sound of a stud-mounted trem- and of course tuning stability and tremolo range is enhanced.

Putting the trem arm in the block is fine as well- but the separate arm socket like we do it just works better- so we made the block fatter from front to back to get extra mass.

The bottom line here is the design of this unit is pretty sound and very, very well thought out. Now i can't claim that the metal finishing is to the quality of a Callaham unit- of course it's not- but it's pretty good- and functionally i would say that this is the equal of anything out there- and for the complete kit with springs, screws, studs and claw for $39 I think it is a fair price.

And given the no-restocking fee return policy- We are happy to issue a refund or swap this for a 6 screw trem with vintage sized block.

:) ok. Nah, don't think it'll be needed to swap. The plate looks cheap though, I wish I could have just used this block and saddles on the original fender plate.

[linthat22]

did our thread get deleted???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Yeppers, she's a goner. Coulda just moved it in here, but nooooooo :lol:

[ermghoti II]

W.
T.
F.

1400 posts later, and the block is fine, you just don't like the look of the plate. Great. Outstanding.

[ermghoti II]

Yeppers, she's a goner. Coulda just moved it in here, but nooooooo :lol:

Dammit, I fought with that POS MS Paint all morning for this shitty image, I'm not letting it die!

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/ermghoti/gfsponchomaniafail.jpg

[jrockbridge]

Of course, because you're such a nice guy.



The "2 point geometry" - wow you know how to BS nice and good. You should be a car salesman.

Yeah I guess it's as "physally" large as allowed... except for the chunk that is not there to allow the super awesome pop in tremolo arm, which is a totally kick ass feature. Why didn't Leo "F" think of it before? Take a piece out of the block, to allow for more comfortable trem arm insertion, and not tell the customers that they're actually not buying Full Size in the true meaning of the word - just "full size" considering that you can't make it bigger because of the non-standard, import metal plate it's attached to. And then lower the price and let them find out why

All the people associated with Moozek are pathological lairs! Also, they have bad breath and body odor. Plus, they claim to have a "full size" penis while, in actuality, the girls say it's a teenie weenie peenie!

[sleepeatplay]

Really, putting doucheness into the counterfeit forum? What A dumbfuck. I hope they Banhammer your retarded ass.

[dooshbag]

you want a big block? what size?
8.3 liter big enough for ya?
Here ya go...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/cavpilot/shitpile13/boss_hoss_502_big_block.jpg

top speed: 255 mph.

That bike indicates all kinds of suck....and you need to have a giant gut and bad hair just to qualify to buy it.


Oh and it will not corner.....no way....no how.

[dooshbag]

Really, putting doucheness into the counterfeit forum? What A dumbfuck. I hope they Banhammer your retarded ass.


Hey! I resemble that comment.

[tp4mybunghol]

IT LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[customtele]

Sounds like Gordon wouldn't be happy if he were hung with a new rope. Gordon, try to get something half as good for forty bucks elsewhere. Can't do it! You're the only person going on my ignore list!

[GЯДИКФЯ]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/198008518_e6b42e251d.jpg

this is a non full size block. Note the skinniness. Now take your troll elsewhere

[jrockbridge]

The size of the typical GFS person's penis...
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k81/jrockbridge/GFSTrem.jpg

Compared to the size the typical Moozek person, Gordon Freeman's, penis...
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k81/jrockbridge/RegTrem.jpg

[nwtsnma]

agiles are better anyway

[chrisebrooks06]

wow, double thread, swear i have seen this somwhere before lol, umm just send it back?
i heard nothing but good things about this company.
chris

[customtele]

Yes this is a double thread. Gordon started whining on one forum & ran into people who think he's a bonehead. Then he went to another location in the same community & started whining again. Did he think he'd get different results? If you're a bonehead & leave town, you're just a bonehead in a different town.

[illinismitty]

Looks like Jay forgot to enclose some Vagasil in the order.

[nwtsnma]

Looks like Jay forgot to enclose some Vagasil in the order.

vagisil is not a lubricant

[illinismitty]

vagisil is not a lubricant


I didn't say it was. :thu:

[chrisebrooks06]

haha, i thought it was,

[illinismitty]

haha, i thought it was,


It's for itchy vaginas......

[chrisebrooks06]

It's for itchy vaginas......

huh, i meant it was a double thread haha

[bluesway]

my xaviere guitars are loved. *shrug*

[jcsugrue]

I've had a couple issues ordering from GuitarFetish in the last year. First I received a dead pickup, then they sent me a pickup that looked like it had been repaired and resold, and then last month I was the winning bidder on an ebay auction for pickups they didn't even have in stock. That being said, they were very quick and courteous resolving the issues. Did you try emailing them before starting your HC crusade to make them into big fat liar-faces?

PS: As far as cheap 2 point trems go, buy a Wilkinson

[vdowatch]

interesting ...............really

[TRevMFB]

I've always had good business with guitar fetish, if you don't like the product send it back.

[customtele]

I recieved the wrong part (pre wired pickguard) instead of what I ordered (neck pup for my tele). I wanted to order this pg anyway, so I emailed GFS & explained even though this meant more money. I wasn't unhappy to begin with but they were apologetic & got me the tele pup right away. Customer svc is top notch from GFS. I think they'd give money back if you didn't like the color of wires on a pup! So, Gordon, get off your toilet seat & smell your own butt. It stinks!

[jcsugrue]

Customtele is right on, those dudes will bend over backwards, to the point of tea bagging their own foreheads, just to make a customer happy. When I needed a defective pickup replaced, they send me a new pickup with return postage, no questions asked. They were also extremely apologetic, even though it wasn't a big deal at all. But really, way to start a counterfeit thread before trying to solve your problem like a grown up, fucktard.

[hyperkookeez]

I've always had good business with guitar fetish, if you don't like the product send it back.

same here

gf has very good customer service

[customtele]

I'll bet GFS sold a bunch of these because of this thread. I'd try it but I always block trems anyway. The sustain may be better?

[TRevMFB]

I'll bet GFS sold a bunch of these because of this thread. I'd try it but I always block trems anyway. The sustain may be better?

that definitely holds true to no press is bad press.

[cavpilot]

That bike indicates all kinds of suck....and you need to have a giant gut and bad hair just to qualify to buy it.


Oh and it will not corner.....no way....no how.

I don't think they made this with cornering in mind...kinda like the '69 Dodge Charger 440.

[applemorgan]

I've purchased a few items from Guitar Fetish, They do "Puff their goods" quite a bit in their marketing but not to the point of false info or fraudulent info so this charge is unfair. For the money GFS seem to fit a particular niche in the market. example: I purchased a P90 Tele guard that was suppose to be an exact fit for an American Series Tele, it was very very very close but not an exact fit, but it was well worth their bargin price, which was more affordable than any other supplier. I've purchased other parts to that did just what I thought they would do, a decent job at an very affordable price. "It is what it is", decent parts at a good price.

[hellion_213]

I purchased a Crunchy Rails pup from GFS. It sounds surprisingly Kick Ass, and comparable to the Duncan Dimebucker. I only paid about $30 for the GFS, where the Duncan would run me WAY more than that, something like 4 times as much. There may be a difference, but I'm not a freaking studio guitarist making 7-8 digits a year. I'll keep my Crunchy, thanks. Point is, the parts are Killer for the money. Period. On a different note, who wouldn't be happier with a two-point trem over the standard F trem? I would, but then I prefer Floyds. Blah...blah...blah....Probably should've at least contacted them first, not to beat the dead horse or anything.

[kneblasch]

Im with you brotha! guitarfetish did me dirty too! I ordered a whammy bar for my tune-o-matic and when I couldn't find anywhere to shove it I started pouting on a forum... and nobody cared :cry:

I feel ya ...... :-(

[Scafeets]

Count me in as one more very satisfied GF customer. Many purchases - every one a winner. To the OP - next time try communicating with a merchant before you try to trash his rep.

[customtele]

I've never had a problem with GFS products. Bang for the buck can't be beat. I'm in love with the Dream 180's. I found MY tone with these. 'Nuff said.

[Verence]

I've never had a problem with GF.

Sometimes stuff doesn't fit 100%, but I don't whine, I just make it so it does fit. It's still good quality product.

It's well worth what you pay.

[TheBumRush]

I've had 7 extremely positive transactions with Guitar Fetish. Amazing customer service, commucation, extremely helpful with trying to figure out how to install my MODboard.

Great guys all around, sorry you didn't have a good experience. E-mail them and I'm sure they'll do you right.

[customtele]

When it comes to fit, Jay himself mentions this when it comes to pickguards, etc. You can't expect a drop in. As a DIY'er I'd almost be disappointed if something didn't need a bit of finesse.