Worlds Only ELECTRIC DRUMS

[johnny nobody]

Greetings from a place you've never been. I'm sitting behind the best drums in the world. When you finally see them live you will know.
Now, Nobody knows.
www.youtube.com/electricdrums

[RumStik]

Hey Johnny...not sure what I think of the product yet, but I think you might need to hire an experienced marketing person...?

[johnny nobody]

Screw marketers. The market doesn't need ELECTRIC DRUMS, drummers do.

[BeakerArk]

that was. . .ummmm ...errrr. . .interesting.

I've got a great idea for your next project. . .how 'bout a totally non-electric word processor. .. .you could call it "a pencil"

[SweetDrummerQT]

that was. . .ummmm ...errrr. . .interesting.

I've got a great idea for your next project. . .how 'bout a totally non-electric word processor. .. .you could call it "a pencil"

:lol::lol::lol:

[Guttermouth]

i don't understand.
endless belongs to possibility?



:poke:

[RumStik]

Screw marketers. The market doesn't need ELECTRIC DRUMS, drummers do.

Drummers are your market, johnny. And a good marketer, (or at least someone who can write proper English), might be able to convince them that they do indeed need your ELECTRIC DRUMS, (if they actually do). Otherwise...a skin stretched over a hollow log may continue to be the drum of choice.

[drumtechdad]

i don't understand.
endless belongs to possibility?

:poke:

Thanks, Guttermouth; that's a pet peeve of mine.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa144/drumtechdad/bobsqu.gif

[drumtechdad]

Greetings from a place you've never been. I'm sitting behind the best drums in the world. When you finally see them live you will know.
Now, Nobody knows.
www.youtube.com/electricdrums

Great job, Johnny! Now all you have to do is make them sound good!

[Telestrastic]

ya i thought they sounded like crap. Why? I dont understand the purpose.....at all.

[Chefmike8888]

I agree, they sound like shit. And whats with the snare? OMG that's fucking terrible.

Mike

[SyntheticTubs]

My 1984 Tama techstar snare sounded better.

The pickup system needs work.

[Telestrastic]

My shittiest sauce pans sounded better.

The pickup system needs work.

Fixed..hehe

[notamachine]

Great job, Johnny! Now all you have to do is make them sound good!

Yeah good luck, you're gonna need it.

[JBrig]

I have a Roland TD-10 session kit, for home use and let me say....they don't compare to my acoustic set. I can not get the "touch" or good ol' instant response for a "natural" sound. I don't care how much technology goes into them, they are going to respond in a limited capacity or miss fire. I do like them for say....a multitude of effects or sounds that could be played by a percussionist/keyboardist in the band. I can bring a couple of the drums and module for him to add some cool things here and there. Also, they are great for working out parts at home before heading to the reheasal studio to bash and make noise. Other than that I think they will always be a different animal that few will want to replace acoustics with. But hey, good luck I'm glad you dig'em.:thu:

[johnny nobody]

Drummers are your market, johnny. And a good marketer, (or at least someone who can write proper English), might be able to convince them that they do indeed need your ELECTRIC DRUMS, (if they actually do). Otherwise...a skin stretched over a hollow log may continue to be the drum of choice.

thanx for the insite' an all. Ur right, most kits do sound a bit old an loglike. could be a thing of the past though. did i misspell something? anyway... the "market" isnt doin so great, so drummers will have to study this one a little before they judge themselves into a log set. USE GOOD SPEAKERS AN VOLUME when viewing the home RECORDING.
www.youtube.com/electricdrums

[WhiplashBand]

Turning up your speakers will only make these things sound like LOUDER shit...

[johnny nobody]

I have a Roland TD-10 session kit, for home use and let me say....they don't compare to my acoustic set. I can not get the "touch" or good ol' instant response for a "natural" sound. I don't care how much technology goes into them, they are going to respond in a limited capacity or miss fire. I do like them for say....a multitude of effects or sounds that could be played by a percussionist/keyboardist in the band. I can bring a couple of the drums and module for him to add some cool things here and there. Also, they are great for working out parts at home before heading to the reheasal studio to bash and make noise. Other than that I think they will always be a different animal that few will want to replace acoustics with. But hey, good luck I'm glad you dig'em.:thu:

(especially pads suck)
YES to all the above EXCEPT...
THESE drums are acoustic, with electronic tones being induced inside each drum. YOU MUST USE A DECENT SET OF SPEAKERS to get a idea from the home video RECORDING. ELECTRIC DRUMS allow physical manipulation of the heads. If you were in the room with a set your drum world would be diggin em 2. www.youtube.com/electricdrums

[Mogwix]

hahaha

[johnny nobody]

Great job, Johnny! Now all you have to do is make them sound good!

If you put your son behind a set of ELECTRIC DRUMS, dont feel bad when he buys a set that replaces the "tech" ( unless your good at tech in all the fields of tech work expanded to accomadate ELECTRIC DRUMS) . If he saw your comment he might say , Did you research? DID YOU USE ADAQUATE (not little computer) SPEAKERS AND WATCH MORE THAN 2 minutes of videos? Do the homework?
www.youtube.com/electricdrums

[xush]

I'm curious JN, what is the application intended for these drums?
Are they designed with gigging in mind? If so, how would they be amplified?

Recording? At-home practicing? I'm just wondering what niche they're aimed towards? How do you see them being used?

and am I understanding the design correctly~ They are essentially acoustic drums with speakers installed in each? How much volume are they producing?

[RumStik]

...did i misspell something?

Uhhh yeah.

[MnL]

Firstly, as most of you are probably wondering, I'm just curious about the premise of the system. Here's what a gather so far:

There's a piezo trigger on the top head to detect and track the hits. This signal is then processed, and a tone is generated on the inside of the drum via a speaker. This vibration is then either passed to the shell or the bottom head to produce the sound out of the drum. This means that each drum is a sealed unit which only really needs a power cable to work.

Here are some things I see as small shortcomings to the idea (although it is very interesting and neat):

a) There will undoubtedly be a lot of crosstalk at louder volumes out of the kit, as anyone who has an acoustic kit knows that under normal playing conditions, a kit where the toms are tuned roughly in key with other will definitely want to vibrate as the other toms are hit. Also, with a digital kit, crosstalk is already a big problem, but now you've got to deal with resonance and crosstalk for things that aren't even touching.

b) This technology would seem to have a very limited band of volume where it sounds good. Albiet, it would be a lower volume the level of a heavier drummer (as you'd be able to stimulate the shells to a desired volume), it would still probably be too loud to use in an apartment or other place where noise is an issue. It also would tend to be too quiet to play out in a gig, so you'd still have to mike the kit, because as you say, the speakers only stimulate the drum. The drum is still making the noises, so would have to be miked to make them at louder volumes and still sound good.

c) Internal counter-resonance would definitely be an issue. If you use a cheap kit and want it to sound great, and try using different tones to stimulate the drum, you'll get counter-resonance, as the drum will want to resonate in a certain manner, while you're trying to make it resonate in another manner. So this would mean your system requires the drums to be of good quality to sound good after the system is in place. With a standard triggered kit, you can make crappy toms sound a lot better, but with this system, they'd still sound crappy, as it they couldn't resonate well to start off with, this system won't help at all.

d) Since the sound quality of this system depends on the quality of the kit in the first place, you would have no cost savings, as if you wanted a good sounding system, you'd have to pay for a good kit...and this system.

e) Finally there's an issue of pure hassle. I'd much rather have an digital kit if I want things quiet, and I'd just spring for a pure acoustic kit if I could make noise, because ultimately with your system you'd still have to spring for mikes and so on.

I like the thinking behind this (and i've used it before one many different recording projects...the age old trick of putting a speaker playing a snare track on a snare to directly stimulate it to rerecord clean backbeat snare sounds), but I don't see this as being a viable solution to much right now. I apologize if any of that came out harsh, but I'd strongly thinking about this from a commercial aspect before trying to sell it.

Finally, I also agree with the sentiment that you should get someone to help you advertise. Honestly put, the video clips are far from flattering (I did watch them all...all the way through), and some information about the system would go a long way (you don't have to give away all your secrets...but something would be nice).

MnL

[johnny nobody]

I'm curious JN, what is the application intended for these drums?
Are they designed with gigging in mind? If so, how would they be amplified?

Recording? At-home practicing? I'm just wondering what niche they're aimed towards? How do you see them being used?

and am I understanding the design correctly~ They are essentially acoustic drums with speakers installed in each? How much volume are they producing?



They are very close to acoustic volume 120db+, pretty loud for an instrument. Not as loud as some hyper acoustic snares. Louder with tone than most drums. Some tones louder some fatter. You can turn down the volume.

You can mic them or line down or both. The " niches" are ," manipulating the heads electronically @ loose heads or tight heads, controlling feedback@ lots of fun with that, one of a kind tones from inside the kit@ use ur imagination or study the videos. " mixed sound" from the kit. snare spring manipulation @ very cool." Any brand of drums.

They are not for the suit case, you will have to pick up and move the set you configure. I move my 5 piece set as easy as any but the amp rack is a bit heavy. Dues must be paid, or pay your roady.

Some PRO will get the best from them cause they are so different so many ways. Very dynamic, one hand controllable buzz rolls, and boom boom or wet tone Ect.

[johnny nobody]

Firstly, as most of you are probably wondering, I'm just curious about the premise of the system. Here's what a gather so far:

There's a piezo trigger on the top head to detect and track the hits. This signal is then processed, and a tone is generated on the inside of the drum via a speaker. This vibration is then either passed to the shell or the bottom head to produce the sound out of the drum. This means that each drum is a sealed unit which only really needs a power cable to work.

Here are some things I see as small shortcomings to the idea (although it is very interesting and neat):

a) There will undoubtedly be a lot of crosstalk at louder volumes out of the kit, as anyone who has an acoustic kit knows that under normal playing conditions, a kit where the toms are tuned roughly in key with other will definitely want to vibrate as the other toms are hit. Also, with a digital kit, crosstalk is already a big problem, but now you've got to deal with resonance and crosstalk for things that aren't even touching.

b) This technology would seem to have a very limited band of volume where it sounds good. Albiet, it would be a lower volume the level of a heavier drummer (as you'd be able to stimulate the shells to a desired volume), it would still probably be too loud to use in an apartment or other place where noise is an issue. It also would tend to be too quiet to play out in a gig, so you'd still have to mike the kit, because as you say, the speakers only stimulate the drum. The drum is still making the noises, so would have to be miked to make them at louder volumes and still sound good.

c) Internal counter-resonance would definitely be an issue. If you use a cheap kit and want it to sound great, and try using different tones to stimulate the drum, you'll get counter-resonance, as the drum will want to resonate in a certain manner, while you're trying to make it resonate in another manner. So this would mean your system requires the drums to be of good quality to sound good after the system is in place. With a standard triggered kit, you can make crappy toms sound a lot better, but with this system, they'd still sound crappy, as it they couldn't resonate well to start off with, this system won't help at all.

d) Since the sound quality of this system depends on the quality of the kit in the first place, you would have no cost savings, as if you wanted a good sounding system, you'd have to pay for a good kit...and this system.

e) Finally there's an issue of pure hassle. I'd much rather have an digital kit if I want things quiet, and I'd just spring for a pure acoustic kit if I could make noise, because ultimately with your system you'd still have to spring for mikes and so on.

I like the thinking behind this (and i've used it before one many different recording projects...the age old trick of putting a speaker playing a snare track on a snare to directly stimulate it to rerecord clean backbeat snare sounds), but I don't see this as being a viable solution to much right now. I apologize if any of that came out harsh, but I'd strongly thinking about this from a commercial aspect before trying to sell it.

Finally, I also agree with the sentiment that you should get someone to help you advertise. Honestly put, the video clips are far from flattering (I did watch them all...all the way through), and some information about the system would go a long way (you don't have to give away all your secrets...but something would be nice).

MnL

You ALMOST get it,
a. No x talk
b. intended for live audience not apt. If you don't mic them, your band can turn down a little in a club ( like everyone asks) but your kit will SOUND mic'ed if you program them to at any volume.
c.The induced tones completely control the resonance of ELECTRIC DRUMS.
d. Like i said, the cheap as oatmeal set i use in the video sounds better and unlimited different than any set close to its cheap as oatmeal range.

The sound inside the drum is not being REINTRODUCED, just induced. Yes the better kit (wood) might sound better but i think the cheap as they get blue set i use is very competitive over any high dollar kit.

I would be happy to show anyone in person what the videos don't get across.

[Telestrastic]

You ALMOST get it,
a. No x talk
b. intended for live audience not apt. If you don't mic them, your band can turn down a little in a club ( like everyone asks) but your kit will SOUND mic'ed if you program them to at any volume.
c.The induced tones completely control the resonance of ELECTRIC DRUMS.
d. Like i said, the cheap as oatmeal set i use in the video sounds better and unlimited different than any set close to its cheap as oatmeal range.

The sound inside the drum is not being REINTRODUCED, just induced. Yes the better kit (wood) might sound better but i think the cheap as they get blue set i use is very competitive over any high dollar kit.

I would be happy to show anyone in person what the videos don't get across.


I'd Actually like to see some pics and not videos, i wanna know what's actually going on.

[SyntheticTubs]

Fixed..hehe

heh... yeah.... :thu:

[Chefmike8888]

(especially pads suck)
YES to all the above EXCEPT...
THESE drums are acoustic, with electronic tones being induced inside each drum. YOU MUST USE A DECENT SET OF SPEAKERS to get a idea from the home video RECORDING. ELECTRIC DRUMS allow physical manipulation of the heads. If you were in the room with a set your drum world would be diggin em 2. www.youtube.com/electricdrums

I played this through Alesis M1Active 620's run of a Mackie Onyx 1640 w/firewire. And the verdict is.............:deadhorse: They sound like shit.

Mike

[johnny nobody]

I realize some people aren't worth the trouble but all opinions are treasured.
I will save them in my scrap book, make copys and give them to my friends to laugh with.

[pasta]

Sorry, I couldn't get through four minutes of that snare.

...did i misspell something?
(Copies, possibilities, use of the apostrophe, etc.)

You'll get more attention for your product if your video looks more professional.

[SyntheticTubs]

I realize some people aren't worth the trouble but all opinions are treasured.
I will save them in my scrap book, make copys and give them to my friends to laugh with.

Well, don't laugh too hard, because that snare sound was horrible, and you need to work that issue before your idea becomes practical. That's insightful critique, and I am obviously not alone in my assessment.

[Bootslrll]

Yeah, I don't really get it. Are your snare wires that loose on purpose, or is that the electric sound you're going for?

[johnny nobody]

Yeah, I don't really get it. Are your snare wires that loose on purpose, or is that the electric sound you're going for?

The wires are being manipulated to sound loose by the electronic tone being induced, depending on which of the videos you view. The video with kit 8 or 1 would have a tighter plain snare tone.

[johnny nobody]

Well, don't laugh too hard, because that snare sound was horrible, and you need to work that issue before your idea becomes practical. That's insightful critique, and I am obviously not alone in my assessment.



Thanks, I'll ad that to the funny pages in my scrap book. Honestly if you think the snare in the video you viewed sounds "horrible" I can't put much into your opinions. You must be hung up on plain, loud, resonant, prehistoric, one sound type equipment like the ones you have. ANYONE who has been in the room with ELECTRIC DRUMS has dropped their jaws only to say WOW. Now if you use one of YOUR snares and convert it to electric, I'm sure your opinion would convert as well. The word horrible shouldn't be used for describing different than yours. There are plenty of great sounding acoustic snares but only ELECTRIC DRUMS can make them all better.

[SyntheticTubs]

Thanks, I'll ad that to the funny pages in my scrap book. Honestly if you think the snare in the video you viewed sounds "horrible" I can't put much into your opinions. You must be hung up on plain, loud, resonant, prehistoric, one sound type equipment like the ones you build. ANYONE who has been in the room with ELECTRIC DRUMS has dropped their jaws only to say WOW. Now if you use one of YOUR snares and convert it to electric, I'm sure your opinion would convert as well. The word horrible shouldn't be used for describing different than yours. There are plenty of great sounding acoustic snares but only ELECTRIC DRUMS can make them all better.


No, I am hung up on a crisp snare sound, yours was garbage. The sound is a total failure, and you need to rethink your laughably crappy system. The only jaw-dropping you have done here, is everyone is in disbelief at how shitty it sounds. Not a WOW, more like "EEEYUCK."

Try again, with persistance, the actual sound may one day match your deaf arrogance about it.

You be laughing all the way to a poor investment loss.

Right now, people are laughing at you, not with you.

[manoeuver]

ELECTRIC DRUMS. I get it!

I want one. they sound as good as any olther kit, with eleCTRONIC MANipulations of the WIRES and the TAMMBER.

I have been to Cleveland seven times, and I can attest, ELECTRONIC DRUMS WERE NOT INVENTED BY CARMINE APPICE.

that is all.

[HottKarl]

What I heard sounds like ass. Period. Like a poorly tuned, cheap kit with mounting hardware that is loose and vibrating. Not trying to be a dick....just what I hear with my ears.

Trying to convince people here otherwise is a futile effort...we have ears and people's opinions here about your tones are all pretty consistent. Listen and learn from what people are saying.

I commend your efforts to try something new and seek input from other drummers. You may be on to something here that could prove useful.....but it needs to be refined and improved. I think that is what people are trying to let you know. As it is now, I think you'll have a hard time trying to sell it to anyone. Rough prototypes (what I hope this version is) rarely have success in the marketplace.

Just my .02 cents worth. Take it for what it's worth.

[johnny nobody]

No, I am hung up on a crisp snare sound, yours was garbage. The sound is a total failure, and you need to rethink your laughably crappy system. The only jaw-dropping you have done here, is everyone is in disbelief at how shitty it sounds. Not a WOW, more like "EEEYUCK."

Try again, with persistance, the actual sound may one day match your deaf arrogance about it.

You be laughing all the way to a poor investment loss.

Right now, people are laughing at you, not with you.


I dont think " EVERYONE " is on this thread. And I dont think anyone has watched more than a few minutes of one of the videos except maybe one guy. So if you think you are in a class with "everyone" your in a small world. RECORDINGS arent the best way to judge sound, especially homemade. I can never loose on my investment, the result is to great. Have fun with that one sound you have.

[SyntheticTubs]

I dont think " EVERYONE " is on this thread. And I dont think anyone has watched more than a few minutes of one of the videos except maybe one guy. So if you think you are in a class with "everyone" your in a small world. RECORDINGS arent the best way to judge sound, especially homemade. I can never loose on my investment, the result is to great. Have fun with that one sound you have.

Very arrogant....indeed.

you post here under the false pretense of getting opinions, and people overwhelmingly hate what they heard- most notably, the snare. Then you say you laugh at their opinions.

All you were doing, was soliciting praise and agreement...so unless you are tone deaf, I suggest you take heed to the majority of posters here.

The sound does not match your lofty opinion of it. It's low-fi, and doesn't even match an Alesis dm-5 kit.

I am quite happy with the sound I have. It's similar to drummers winning formulas for decades.

You act as if you invented the wheel. All you are doing at this point is making sound effects...not a great drum sound.

[johnny nobody]

What I heard sounds like ass. Period. Like a poorly tuned, cheap kit with mounting hardware that is loose and vibrating. Not trying to be a dick....just what I hear with my ears.

Trying to convince people here otherwise is a futile effort...we have ears and people's opinions here about your tones are all pretty consistent. Listen and learn from what people are saying.

I commend your efforts to try something new and seek input from other drummers. You may be on to something here that could prove useful.....but it needs to be refined and improved. I think that is what people are trying to let you know. As it is now, I think you'll have a hard time trying to sell it to anyone. Rough prototypes (what I hope this version is) rarely have success in the marketplace.

Just my .02 cents worth. Take it for what it's worth.

Karl,

The kit used is absolutly the cheapest money can buy. If you try the video with kit #1 or 8 it will have a plain type drum tone. All the other kits have added tones that are not normal drum tones.

[johnny nobody]

Very arrogant....indeed.

you post here under the false pretense of getting opinions, and people overwhelmingly hate what they heard- most notably, the snare. Then you say you laugh at their opinions.

All you were doing, was soliciting praise and agreement...so unless you are tone deaf, I suggest you take heed to the majority of posters here.

The sound does not match your lofty opinion of it. It's low-fi, and doesn't even match an Alesis dm-5 kit.

I am quite happy with the sound I have. It's similar to drummers winning formulas for decades.

You act as if you invented the wheel. All you are doing at this point is making sound effects...not a great drum sound.

Compared to the only types of drums available for decades up to now, this is the wheel and some lucky drummer will ride to the top with ELECTRIC DRUMS. All forums are full of people who think theyre professionals at their hobbies, and they love to hide behind the web. My kit is right where you can have all the opinion you want, I never asked for you to reply and your reply rolls off like water.

[SyntheticTubs]

This guy doesn't deserve free ad space here.

[johnny nobody]

Well, you are being an asswipe in any case. Face it, your stuff needs work, and you won't accept everyone calling a spade an spade.

Face reality...because your piss-poor sounding system rolls off like water. It's irrelevent compared to almost anything I have heard before. I could mike up any pearl export and it will blow away your pathetic crap.

Your ...umm...turd needs a lot of polish before it will be any good.

And mr "nobody" if you were such a genius that didn't want to be anonymous, you'd have a moniker that was your real name. So don't be an arrogant douchebag...you are not going to be on the cover of Modern drummer any time soon.

Do you work for Modern Drummer?
I'll save your comment for a banner. Are you sure you know what arrogant means? Stop acting like your the spokesperson for "everyone". I'm tryin to give up fowl language so if i see you around the last thing you will see is my tatoo "NOBODY" before I ....you spade

[SyntheticTubs]

This guy doesn't deserve free ad space here.

[johnny nobody]

"FOWL" language? Like chicken and cornish game hen? Duck?

Are you threatening me? Suddenly you are a badass that makes drums that makes everything else to this point obsolete? Suddenly you are going to physically attack everyone that hates your "warez." Plenty of folks are hearing the same thing. I guess someone has to tell you in person, because you won't hear it from a friend or reletive. Sounds like you get pretty riled for "water."

Grow up and get real. Stephen Hawking you ain't. Now get back into the basement and get to work. Our opinions obviously mean nothing...really. Can't wait to see you at NAMM 2009.

Dont use words like "EVERYONE" "Our" "Folks" unless they all live in your head cause I'm just talkin to YOU spade. You are the only one here at the moment you know. Oh, you misspelled relative. Do you work for Modern Drummer?

[Walt Disney]

Ohw jesus.

[D Carroll]

i just tune my damn snare... that video made it sound like shit.

[SyntheticTubs]

This guy doesn't deserve free ad space here.

[WhiplashBand]

Johnny, your avatar pic makes me think of a TransFormer's colon... not sure why... just a thought

[Walt Disney]

Someone ought to lock this thread. It's getting far to poisonous.
I don't understand this guys motivation for creating a device like that, and having viewed the video, i don't understand how he could expect anything other than bad critique on it.
But some people thrive too much on negativism and simply enjoy creating bad mojo here.

Lock it.

[SyntheticTubs]

Someone ought to lock this thread. It's getting far to poisonous.
I don't understand this guys motivation for creating a device like that, and having viewed the video, i don't understand how he could expect anything other than bad critique on it.
But some people thrive too much on negativism and simply enjoy creating bad mojo here.

Lock it.

Agreed...zero positive opinions.... lock it!

[genghiskog]

Can you get different sounds out of the snare using the same equipment in the video? Is the snare sound something that could be adjusted by whoever would buy the setup? I don't want to contribute to the argument here; But since it is electronic couldn't you just change it and try out a few different sounds? On my computer it sounds more like someone dropping a handful of marbles onto the snare than a snare strand. It could be a neat effect to use for a song; but I wouldn't want that single sound all of the time.

[Walt Disney]

What are you, 15? Gotta have the last word?
This is not the first time you spill bad mojo on the forums SyntheticTubs.
You thrive on negativity and try tomuch to bring everything down to your level.
I don't care about what this guy's pushing or what anybodys opinion about it is. What i care about is not having infantile BS arguments ontop of the forum all the time.

LOCK IT!

[SyntheticTubs]

What are you, 15? Gotta have the last word?
This is not the first time you spill bad mojo on the forums SyntheticTubs.
You thrive on negativity and try tomuch to bring everything down to your level.
I don't care about what this guy's pushing or what anybodys opinion about it is. What i care about is not having infantile BS arguments ontop of the forum all the time.

LOCK IT!

Yeah, and you are always sunshine and sweetness. As usual, you have it all backwards.

I forgot what a self-righteous whiner you could be. Take some midol and aspirin.

Get over yourself already. Go out and play...get a life besides haunting this place.

I forgot to put you on ignore...my bad.

Done!

[johnny nobody]

Can you get different sounds out of the snare using the same equipment in the video? Is the snare sound something that could be adjusted by whoever would buy the setup? I don't want to contribute to the argument here; But since it is electronic couldn't you just change it and try out a few different sounds? On my computer it sounds more like someone dropping a handful of marbles onto the snare than a snare strand. It could be a neat effect to use for a song; but I wouldn't want that single sound all of the time.

YES YES YES the one kit in the video will change any way its program dictates. I use a very old tone module in that video but you can use any sound source. CK out some of the other videos on the page, they are all the same equipment in the BLUE videos and the snare gets changed.

[cearleywine]

this is the funniest thread I've seen so far. Take the advice on marketing, video production, actually showing the drums more, and maybe a more tolerable rhythm for a demonstration. I actually think it's a unique and interesting idea for an aux. snare. Especially for live-tronica stuff. I definitely like fresh concepts, and I think you will sell more working with someone in sales. We're drummers, we nit pick at details, sound, quality, build, range, application, finish. I just immediatly get turned off from using old propaganda tactics trying to fill your bandwagon. How much are you selling the snares for though?

[drumtechdad]

Yes, this has been a hilarious thread. And somewhat negative, too, although I think Walt overstates the case. I was negative, too, though I was attempting to be humorous. The "screw marketing" comment was the tip-off that we weren't dealing with any kind of professional here.

In any case, Johnny Nobody, here's some real advice.

You came to a drummers' forum to get comments about your invention. Good idea! Drummers hear the sound of real drums every day, they're the ones that can give you an honest evalutation of the sound.

But as soon as anyone made the observation that your invention didn't sound good, your reaction was to dis the posters and indeed the forum itself.

You commented that you can't hear the utter goodness of your invention over average computer speakers. What did you expect?

Then you commented that you'd save the opinions garnered here to laugh over with your friends.

Then you started in with the "You must be hung up on plain, loud, resonant, prehistoric, one sound type equipment like the ones you have," "Have fun with that one sound you have," and "All forums are full of people who think theyre professionals at their hobbies, and they love to hide behind the web."

Were I to try to get opinions on a new invention from a drummers' forum I'd be limiting my comments to "Thanks for the input," even to the assholes. That's what pros do. It would have lead to real constructive criticism that would have been valuable to you--but you tossed that all away.

I would also have tried to phrase my responses in standard, grammatical English and seen to it that my website did, too. When one sees "Endless Possibility's" on a web site you know you're dealing with an amateur who is not taking the time to do things right--not something that gives you confidence in a potential product.

Finally, it may interest you to know that this is not a PDF full of 13 year-olds arguing about how many BPM they can do on double-bass; there are many, many gigging drummers on this forum, many former gigging drummers (such as myself) and on the whole a wealth of helpful and knowledgable guys who are happy to lend the benefit of their experience.

However, when someone comes in with an attitude--especially when they are asking for advice or trying to sell a product!--they generally get just what you did.

A better approach, one that would have been followed by someone actually trying to do market research, would have been to check out the forum, read some posts, get a feel for the place, then make your inquiry. (You would have discovered that the folks here are really helpful.) When someone indicates that your marketing skills are lacking you ask "Why, exactly?" instead of saying "screw marketing." With the former, you learn; with the latter you just piss people off. When someone says, "Sounds bad" you ask them "How, exactly? Did you listen to other clips? There are other snare sounds in those clips, try this one . . . " Again, with this you learn, but you were more interested in dissing the opinions you got, and ultimately the forum itself.

So, no matter what the reality is, you came off as a guy who responds to criticism with "hey, what do you know anyway?" instead of someone who actually wants to learn what real drummers think.

And for heaven's sake, get someone who can write grammatical English to proof your stuff on the website.

[Fluke]

I tell you what, you need to get together with this guy:

http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=13STRINGS

[1001gear]

Just goin' with the flow here. Prototype, prototype demo. You can't win. Maybe some investor will extend a hand - and rip you off.
Cool graphic effects, horrible story line. Flame on, flame off. Flame, ON again. Flame off... We get it. If this is comedy, it's too dry. Get a Director.
Tighten the snare wire a tad. This bothered most of the guys immediately.
Get a better player. I wasn't sure if you wanted lessons or what...
When you're done arguing with these guys, explain your device. I for one am still curious. Of course at this point the guys'll just tear into that.

[johnny nobody]

Finally, it may interest you to know that this is not a PDF full of 13 year-olds arguing about how many BPM they can do on double-bass; there are many, many gigging drummers on this forum, many former gigging drummers (such as myself) and on the whole a wealth of helpful and knowledgable guys who are happy to lend the benefit of their experience.
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I fail to see the "humor" you were tryin to inject. It was "Screw MARKETERS" not the market that is doin lousy in these prosperous days we are all having. I didnt come to the forum for advice, from all the "professionals", I came to show ELECTRIC DRUMS to a small part of the world. I cant do much about the missed spelling but how is it you are so detailed in grammer but missed the multible advantages of the kit? There were several posters with bad comments that I never replied to cause they gave their opinion and moved on, unlike others. I was dissin ALL forums if thats what you call "hidin behind the web". I'm not limiting your freedom of speech so dont cap mine, ANY statement I made was an answer to PROFESSIONALS insults and bad language. 13 year olds would probably make better observations about ELELCTRIC DRUMS so dont knock em.

SORRY IF ANYONE HAS BEEN OFFENDED
Johnny Nobody

[johnny nobody]

this is the funniest thread I've seen so far. Take the advice on marketing, video production, actually showing the drums more, and maybe a more tolerable rhythm for a demonstration. I actually think it's a unique and interesting idea for an aux. snare. Especially for live-tronica stuff. I definitely like fresh concepts, and I think you will sell more working with someone in sales. We're drummers, we nit pick at details, sound, quality, build, range, application, finish. I just immediatly get turned off from using old propaganda tactics trying to fill your bandwagon. How much are you selling the snares for though?

Well, if marketers like the ones who fill my mail box would not just try to cash me in I might consider them for the job, but they will just drive up the overhead. Video production I cannot afford at the moment. I would defend my "rhythm" but I didnt get my doctors excuse, nerve pinch in the neck, gettin better. What propaganda? If you buy just a snare it would also need an amp, cable,maybe a rack for your interface,module ect. So depending on the quality of the drum and accessorys 770.00 to ????.?? The whole kit is more fun for 5700.00 to ? ALL accessorys included except tone module.

[WhiplashBand]

Well, if marketers like the ones who fill my mail box would not just try to cash me in I might consider them for the job, but they will just drive up the overhead. Video production I cannot afford at the moment. I would defend my "rhythm" but I didnt get my doctors excuse, nerve pinch in the neck, gettin better. What propaganda? If you buy just a snare it would also need an amp, cable,maybe a rack for your interface,module ect. So depending on the quality of the drum and accessorys 770.00 to ????.?? The whole kit is more fun for 5700.00 to ? ALL accessorys included except tone module.

After translation of the above gobbledegook, I'm thinking that Mr Nobody is trying to convince us that $5700.00 is a better investement than $770.00.

To which I say...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k306/AManScrned/128320993454987500dudewaitw.jpg

[drumtechdad]

I fail to see the "humor" you were tryin to inject.

Oh, sorry. My wife doesn't understand my humor, either.

I didnt come to the forum for advice, from all the "professionals", I came to show ELECTRIC DRUMS to a small part of the world.

Ah. So you were basically saying, "Dig me!" and waiting for the accolades to pour in? Sorry to disappoint. Perhaps if you invented something that sounds good you could bask in the glory.

Meanwhile, forums are all about opinions and advice; if you don't want them, the best bet is to stay away.

I cant do much about the missed spelling but how is it you are so detailed in grammer but missed the multible advantages of the kit?

Sure you can; you can learn how to spell. But the issue was your making plurals with apostrophes. As in "Endless Possibility's." Here's a clue for you: people other than 13 year-olds say to themselves: "Well, he isn't smart enough to ensure that his website is free of stupid errors of punctuation; could he possibly be smart enough to invent something that works?"

Meanwhile, I got so "detailed" in grammar by attending public school in the USA during the 50s and 60s. That was before teachers discovered that teaching spelling, grammar, and punctuation stifled one's creativity.

I was dissin ALL forums if thats what you call "hidin behind the web".

I don't call it that; you called it that: "All forums are full of people who think theyre professionals at their hobbies, and they love to hide behind the web."

Meanwhile, if you're "dissin" all forums, what on earth are you doing here?

I'm not limiting your freedom of speech so dont cap mine

I have not suggested that your freedom of speech be curtailed. Why should I? You are providing much-needed comic relief.

ANY statement I made was an answer to PROFESSIONALS insults and bad language. 13 year olds would probably make better observations about ELELCTRIC DRUMS so dont knock em.

Well, here you go then! http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/

Don't worry about your inability to express yourself in English; they speak textese over there.

[SyntheticTubs]

Oh, sorry. My wife doesn't understand my humor, either.


Ah. So you were basically saying, "Dig me!" and waiting for the accolades to pour in? Sorry to disappoint. Perhaps if you invented something that sounds good you could bask in the glory.


Perhaps I was a bit ...umm.. harsh up front with the guy, but I saw exactly what he was doing from post #1 and it wasn't "I come in peace". It was more "Worship me...kneel before Zod!" And "I find your lack of faith in my product disturbing" >pooh-bahhh< "Vader! Release him!" "As you wish."


You have illustrated directly (in two posts) what I goaded him on with. He didn't come here seeking anything except praise. Never mind the collective 70 years of drumming between the two of us, according to him that's irrelevant. It's all fun and games until potential distributors say the same thing.

All I did was confront attitude with attitude...much to the dismay of a certain misguided and oversensitive forum drone that won't go away.

You gave him direct advice, and he would rather tell people what they should think and do, as well as making a declarative statement that everything we have heard is totally obsolete.

And BTW: I have a decent high end system or two. His stuff sounded just as bad there, as on my semi-decent 5.1 pc system.

Funny, you tube videos of Steve Gadd sound just fine on my PC.

For $5700 I could have a nice acoustic kit and mic set, a hybrid set, or a Roland.

[danrothmusic]

that's cool that you're making a new line of electric drums, but you have a ways to go before you can compete with the likes of Alesis, Roland and Yamaha.

also, in the first video you posted, the "drums off" segment sounds like you're just playing the drums softly, while the "drums on" part sounds like the same drums, just hit harder (meaning it doesn't sound like you have triggers)
you should change that if you want people to believe in your product

[johnny nobody]

[QUOTE=danrothmusic;26028410]that's cool that you're making a new line of electric drums, but you have a ways to go before you can compete with the likes of Alesis, Roland and Yamaha.



Not a new line, THE only line. No other drums do anything similer to ELECTRIC DRUMS. Not electronic pads not acoustic. Yet ELECTRIC DRUMS can do everything the mentioned can do + . There is no competition.

[Mogwix]

Not a new line, THE only line. No other drums do anything similer to ELECTRIC DRUMS. Not electronic pads not acoustic. Yet ELECTRIC DRUMS can do everything the mentioned can do + . There is no competition.
Whatever.

Best of luck, but my advice to you is to let the drums sell themselves. From you posting in this thread I'll never consider buying these for a second, no matter what they sound like.

[johnny nobody]

OK tech daddy

this is the last time I waste breath on you. If you dont want to talk drums, or tech you get no more ink.


Here's a clue for you: people other than 13 year-olds say to themselves: "Well, he isn't smart enough to ensure that his website is free of stupid errors of punctuation; could he possibly be smart enough to invent something that works?".


I think you are insulting young people here.


Meanwhile, I got so "detailed" in grammar by attending public school in the USA during the 50s and 60s. That was before teachers discovered that teaching spelling, grammar, and punctuation stifled one's creativity.
.

If you got stifled its not my fault.


I don't call it that; you called it that: "All forums are full of people who think theyre professionals at their hobbies, and they love to hide behind the web."
.

YOU did call it that , see below


Meanwhile, if you're "dissin" all forums, what on earth are you doing here?.


Dont get it do you. YOU called it dissin, see below

I have not suggested that your freedom of speech be curtailed. Why should I? You are providing much-needed comic relief..

Sure you did, even dictated how I should answer people. As if this is how you spoke to me.


Were I to try to get opinions on a new invention from a drummers' forum I'd be limiting my comments to "Thanks for the input," even to the assholes. That's what pros do. It would have lead to real constructive criticism that would have been valuable to you--but you tossed that all away.

A better approach, one that would have been followed by someone actually trying to do market research, would have been to check out the forum, read some posts, get a feel for the place, then make your inquiry. (You would have discovered that the folks here are really helpful.) When someone indicates that your marketing skills are lacking you ask "Why, exactly?" instead of saying "screw marketing." With the former, you learn; with the latter you just piss people off. When someone says, "Sounds bad" you ask them "How, exactly? Did you listen to other clips? There are other snare sounds in those clips, try this one . . . " Again, with this you learn, but you were more interested in dissing the opinions you got, and ultimately the forum itself..
SEE you said dissin! Is dissen English?

Don't worry about your inability to express yourself in English; they speak textese over there.

Your insultin young folks again.

I dont know your sons age but he was 13 once ya know. I'll give him 20% off whats in stock if hes not over 18.

[johnny nobody]

BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD.
Johnny Nobody inventer and builder.

[WhiplashBand]

You again?? Deleting your whole other thread and then reposting? Whatta ya think, you're gonna get a different response?

[Telestrastic]

dude, wtf! They sounded like shit the first time but this time they sound great!!!


Wait.


Wait.


....Wait.....



Ok!



You can laugh now. HAHAHA:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[theDan]

Quit spamming our forums! If you want to promote your product just put it in your sig and make some constructive posts.

[SweetDrummerQT]

Can anyone say "Roland"............ ;) :lol:

Go away :cop:

[SyntheticTubs]

How very spam-tastic!

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[slap happy drums]

Everyone just back away from the troll , turn down the lights and he'll just go to sleep.

[zarazabas]

let's make him cry :poke:

[D Carroll]

let's make him cry :poke:

im in. :cop:

[WhiplashBand]

shouldn't take much... just keep giving reviews of his "amazing" drums... ;)

[SyntheticTubs]

shouldn't take much... just keep giving reviews of his "amazing" drums... ;)

They seem to sound worse now than I remembered the first time around...

[WhiplashBand]

They seem to sound worse now than I remembered the first time around...

Johnny would tell ya that means they're "growing on you..."

Kinda like a fungus I think....

[D Carroll]

i have ringworm... that is fungus... it sounds better than those drums... lots...

[WhiplashBand]

I had burritos today, and expelled gas that sounded better than those

[SyntheticTubs]

I had burritos today, and expelled gas that sounded better than those

...and I accidentally made bubbles in the bathtub that had better low end... :badump:

[Dendy Jarrett]

OK, so you asked for it, and I see no reason not to comply, even if to add some comic relief to the place. I see NO place where anyone asked you a price.
All I see is you keep on takin' a beatin', but keep on tickin'! Maybe you should call these things Timex Drums! (no insult intended, my humor just preceded me!)

So, good luck and may the force be with you.

Thanks,
DJ

ps: I am going to try to merge the other thread on here with this one.

[ThePloughman]

Have ya ever been known to sip coolaid in a South American jungle there laddie?

[agogobill]

http://georgesdrumshop.com/guide.asp

http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/

[SyntheticTubs]

I heard something the other day that blows those electric drums away...And it's over 25 years old.
http://www.briansdrums.com/images/synare_3.gif

[johnny nobody]

OK, so you asked for it, and I see no reason not to comply, even if to add some comic relief to the place. I see NO place where anyone asked you a price.
All I see is you keep on takin' a beatin', but keep on tickin'! Maybe you should call these things Timex Drums! (no insult intended, my humor just preceded me!)

So, good luck and may the force be with you.

Thanks,
DJ

ps: I am going to try to merge the other thread on here with this one.

Dendy,

Thanks fer a little justice. This is the price post you missed ,

Originally Posted by cearleywine
this is the funniest thread I've seen so far. Take the advice on marketing, video production, actually showing the drums more, and maybe a more tolerable rhythm for a demonstration. I actually think it's a unique and interesting idea for an aux. snare. Especially for live-tronica stuff. I definitely like fresh concepts, and I think you will sell more working with someone in sales. We're drummers, we nit pick at details, sound, quality, build, range, application, finish. I just immediatly get turned off from using old propaganda tactics trying to fill your bandwagon. How much are you selling the snares for though?

If you start at the begining you will see I NEVER did anything but answer all the posters. If you can just dump and not merge the other thread that would be fine. PLEASE consider returning this thread to the regular forum after you review the chain of events.

You the man.
Johnny Nobody

[SyntheticTubs]

Nobody knows, the trouble I've seen...(aka Johnny nodick's greatest hits!)

"I realize some people aren't worth the trouble but all opinions are treasured.
I will save them in my scrap book, make copys and give them to my friends to laugh with."

"I never asked for you to reply and your reply rolls off like water."

"I'll save your comment for a banner. Are you sure you know what arrogant means? Stop acting like your the spokesperson for "everyone". I'm tryin to give up fowl language so if i see you around the last thing you will see is my tatoo "NOBODY" before I ....you spade"

"Dont use words like "EVERYONE" "Our" "Folks" unless they all live in your head cause I'm just talkin to YOU spade."

"I fail to see the "humor" you were tryin to inject. It was "Screw MARKETERS" not the market that is doin lousy in these prosperous days we are all having. I didnt come to the forum for advice, from all the "professionals", I came to show ELECTRIC DRUMS to a small part of the world. I cant do much about the missed spelling but how is it you are so detailed in grammer but missed the multible advantages of the kit? There were several posters with bad comments that I never replied to cause they gave their opinion and moved on, unlike others. I was dissin ALL forums if thats what you call "hidin behind the web". I'm not limiting your freedom of speech so dont cap mine, ANY statement I made was an answer to PROFESSIONALS insults and bad language. 13 year olds would probably make better observations about ELELCTRIC DRUMS so dont knock em."

"It could really open up a can of idiots.
Your opinion is gold, but dont spend it all on me."

"No more tears"

"Blood of the innocents"

"Cry me a river"

[johnny nobody]

Greetings from a place you've never been. I'm sitting behind the best drums in the world. When you finally see them live you will know.
Now, Nobody knows.

[johnny nobody]

that's cool that you're making a new line of electric drums, but you have a ways to go before you can compete with the likes of Alesis, Roland and Yamaha.

also, in the first video you posted, the "drums off" segment sounds like you're just playing the drums softly, while the "drums on" part sounds like the same drums, just hit harder (meaning it doesn't sound like you have triggers)
you should change that if you want people to believe in your product

If you like I can show you them live cause are in the area. I assure you that the ON sound you hear is completely electronically induced and the OFF is very quiet heads. So I take that as a compliment.

[FitchFY]

I would love to hear these in person, but I'm not planning on hitting Ohio anytime soon.

I listened to two of the videos all the way through (through a Cambridge Soundworks system) and didn't care for the sounds very much. I'd be curious to hear them put to use in a musical situation, as I unfortunately can't picture a practical use for them. That being said, I applaud you trying something new with drums!

[johnny nobody]

I would love to hear these in person, but I'm not planning on hitting Ohio anytime soon.

I listened to two of the videos all the way through (through a Cambridge Soundworks system) and didn't care for the sounds very much. I'd be curious to hear them put to use in a musical situation, as I unfortunately can't picture a practical use for them. That being said, I applaud you trying something new with drums!

Thanks

I was trying alot of unorthodox tones to be coming out of drums to see what the heads and resonance would react like. Also the module is a 1080 , old stuff for tones. I will make a new video in the future, hopefully with cooler tones and better recording gear. If you keep in touch I will keep you posted. They are as practical as any instrument, just different than any other percussion. If you just want drum sounds at least you can have variety, and tuning at the finger tips.

Nobody

[Merlin Coryell]

I missed all of this action...and I have no idea how or where it started, nor do I know anything about Johnny or his drums.

That being said, as an unbias and fresh consumer coming into this thread, I will never buy drums from this guy. Someone whos only marketing idea is to start a whine-fest on forums isnt worth my time and money.

I hope he takes the hint and gets a lesson out of this.

[D Carroll]

I missed all of this action...and I have no idea how or where it started, nor do I know anything about Johnny or his drums.

That being said, as an unbias and fresh consumer coming into this thread, I will never buy drums from this guy. Someone whos only marketing idea is to start a whine-fest on forums isnt worth my time and money.

I hope he takes the hint and gets a lesson out of this.

you also wont buy because they are not ludwig.

[johnny nobody]

I missed all of this action...and I have no idea how or where it started, nor do I know anything about Johnny or his drums.

That being said, as an unbias and fresh consumer coming into this thread, I will never buy drums from this guy. Someone whos only marketing idea is to start a whine-fest on forums isnt worth my time and money.

I hope he takes the hint and gets a lesson out of this.


As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

[Walt Disney]

How do these drums work, and what would i benefit if i chose to buy them?

WD

[johnny nobody]

How do these drums work, and what would i benefit if i chose to buy them?

WD

IF you are a recording artist, you could be the NEW sound in any band. IF you have a busy studio, you can have one kit that would play with exactly the same tuning every session with every variance of every song or sound. IF you are a hobbyist, You will never have OLD sounding heads or get bored with SAME old sound. IF you are into electronic pads, you will experience what happens when electronic tones are changed back into acoustic tones. IF you are a performer,
I dont want it to sound like a sales pitch, BUT, ELECTRIC DRUMS are absolutely different in how they operate and what they can do. They can change the actual head tension action with electronic manipulation. So you can be tight or floppy at the touch of a button. You can control feedback. This allows you to do things like one hand or foot blazin buzz rolls that you can vary the speed and control. You can change tuning, tone, timbre, genre, ect.

Actually theres more to say like dimensional orientation of sound from a mono instrument that is allways attempted to be reproduced through a stereo field but never comes across like ELECTRIC DRUMS, the real thing.

[D Carroll]

sounds gay. The point of electric drums as i see them is so you don't have to lug an acoustic set around, and you can also play quietly, so not to disturb. Can your kit do that? it sounds like you have found a new method of triggering a set.

[johnny nobody]

sounds gay. The point of electric drums as i see them is so you don't have to lug an acoustic set around, and you can also play quietly, so not to disturb. Can your kit do that? it sounds like you have found a new method of triggering a set.

YES you can play quietly. if you must , but these are acoustic drums and the electronic sounds come from inside each drum. So you still "lug" the set around. Curse of the instrument.

[9 stroke roll]

While I can appreciate you trying to do something different, you need to work on your social skills. You're treating potential customers like shit. You come in here making very grandiose and arrogant statements, get defensive when the obvious is pointed out, and have a very holier than thou attitude.

Not to mention those drums sound like shit.

[slap happy drums]

Not to mention those drums sound like shit.

Indeed they do.

[D Carroll]

why can't this die?

[johnny nobody]

While I can appreciate you trying to do something different, you need to work on your social skills. You're treating potential customers like shit. You come in here making very grandiose and arrogant statements, get defensive when the obvious is pointed out, and have a very holier than thou attitude.

Not to mention those drums sound like shit.

WOW, you do alot of research and evaluating for someone that just joined HC today. Try viewing the video thats starts with kit 7. I hope your not just a fake profile, if not watch out for these guys.

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

Feel free to add any thread crashin idiots you know.
__________________

[slddrummer]

...ok

[D Carroll]

WOW, you do alot of research and evaluating for someone that just joined HC today. Try viewing the video thats starts with kit 7. I hope your not just a fake profile, if not watch out for these guys.

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

Feel free to add any thread crashin idiots you know.
__________________

all of the people you listed put alot into this forum. you are an ass.

[WhiplashBand]

all of the people you listed put alot into this forum. you are an ass.

Thanx bro :thu::love:

[genghiskog]

Johnny:

Why don't you make a quick recording just playing the snare? You can show that the snare can make several different sounds. You could have a few off the wall sounds and keep the snare sound you had. Just include a couple of the more traditional snare strand sounds. It is good to have a few distinct sound for some songs; but every drummer will need to have the traditional snare strand sounds. I'm not trying to bash what you have done. You are always going to have people who don't like what you have made. You are going to have do deal with that for as long as you sell something that is subjective to personal taste. People here don't even always agree on what they want from an acoustic set. (just say the name Lars for example). Your videos as they are now just don't back up your very bold statemnts. Your personal pride is a lot of what let this this get way out of hand. You sould go back and make a sound that more people want. After that all of your extra sound effects are an added bonus. Just don't be suprised when the people you are fighting with don't ever come around to your point of view. It never had to get this bad.

[johnny nobody]

Johnny:

Why don't you make a quick recording just playing the snare? You can show that the snare can make several different sounds. You could have a few off the wall sounds and keep the snare sound you had. Just include a couple of the more traditional snare strand sounds. It is good to have a few distinct sound for some songs; but every drummer will need to have the traditional snare strand sounds. I'm not trying to bash what you have done. You are always going to have people who don't like what you have made. You are going to have do deal with that for as long as you sell something that is subjective to personal taste. People here don't even always agree on what they want from an acoustic set. (just say the name Lars for example). Your videos as they are now just don't back up your very bold statemnts. Your personal pride is a lot of what let this this get way out of hand. You sould go back and make a sound that more people want. After that all of your extra sound effects are an added bonus. Just don't be suprised when the people you are fighting with don't ever come around to your point of view. It never had to get this bad.

O.K. I will be working on that after work this week. I will use exactly the same snare. I will program some different tones but still use the 1080. Just dont forget you will be listening to a HOME recording of ELECTRIC DRUMS. Nothing will appeal to you like the live kit.

[WhiplashBand]

Perhaps when we play Cleveland, I'll swing by the old Grafton area and see these things in person....

[D Carroll]

i wouldn't whip... not worth it... how do you think customer service would be?

[WhiplashBand]

i wouldn't whip... not worth it... how do you think customer service would be?

Well it would be the perfect time to put up or shut up... what better way to hear these things than in person? No excuses can be made about recording techniques, computer speakers, etc... I'll have the ultimate judge for my purchases... MY OWN EARS

So Johnny... are ya gonna man up, or puss out?

[johnny nobody]

Well it would be the perfect time to put up or shut up... what better way to hear these things than in person? No excuses can be made about recording techniques, computer speakers, etc... I'll have the ultimate judge for my purchases... MY OWN EARS

So Johnny... are ya gonna man up, or puss out?

Thing is, I doubt YOU could organize the platform WORTHY of the presence of ELECTRIC DRUMS. I dont think I ever responded to any of YOUR post before, mostly cause of the lacking content. BUT, I like a challenge. So as not to waste my response, I challenge you to provide a worthy LIVE audience AND opponents.

Perhaps when we play Cleveland, I'll swing by the old Grafton area and see these things in person....

....or see ya at a Cleveland area gig, keep you posted.

[WhiplashBand]

Yup, pussed out... anyone who's shocked, say "I"

[johnny nobody]

Yup, pussed out... anyone who's shocked, say "I"

"I" new YOU would.
NOBODY.

[WhiplashBand]

"I" new YOU would.
NOBODY.

Exactly how did I? I offered to come see your life-altering, world-changing invention in person, to see if it's everything you claim it is.

You declined.

It would seem to me that an inventor would be eager to get someone else's opinion of their invention, especially from an area that you're trying so damned hard to impress, meaning this forum and its members. Apparently you'd rather sit and say how great these damned things are without ever truly putting them to the test, or by letting them be tested.

Hell, there's a few of us on here from the Ohio/PA area, we could all come and do a "round table" try-out of these things. But I guess that would make sense, and sense seems to be something you lost touch with a long time ago.

So sit in your little room Johnny, and dream of all the sales you'll never get, all the money you'll never see, and all the acolades your product will never receive. Not only because I truly think it's a crap product, but because you're too afraid to let anyone else near the things.

It seems you truly are as pathetic as some of us assumed you would be. Come back when you have some balls and faith in your product.

[zarazabas]

Thing is, I doubt YOU could organize the platform WORTHY of the presence of ELECTRIC DRUMS. I dont think I ever responded to any of YOUR post before, mostly cause of the lacking content. BUT, I like a challenge. So as not to waste my response, I challenge you to provide a worthy LIVE audience AND opponents.



....or see ya at a Cleveland area gig, keep you posted.

This barely makes sense. Wtf are you talking about?

[SyntheticTubs]

This guy doesn't even attempt the pretense of being cordial. He doesn't even try to be anything except an insufferable prick. It's time to ignore everything he does. If anyone from this forum even dares inquire about his products, they are indeed, brain damaged. This guy is truly an evil side-show clown. Additionally, he has not posted any evidence that his product is even at par, let alone the best. No proof exists to corroborate his absurd claims. He does not demonstrate the intelligence it takes to run a successful business or hire a PR man/someone that does have the brains to hawk his wares without insulting everybody and their respective experience/intelligence levels. Never buy anything from someone that is so completely rude, illiterate and boorishly unsophisticated.

[D Carroll]

i think he is MONO TONNO

[johnny nobody]

Exactly how did I? I offered to come see your life-altering, world-changing invention in person, to see if it's everything you claim it is.

You declined.

It would seem to me that an inventor would be eager to get someone else's opinion of their invention, especially from an area that you're trying so damned hard to impress, meaning this forum and its members. Apparently you'd rather sit and say how great these damned things are without ever truly putting them to the test, or by letting them be tested.

Hell, there's a few of us on here from the Ohio/PA area, we could all come and do a "round table" try-out of these things. But I guess that would make sense, and sense seems to be something you lost touch with a long time ago.

So sit in your little room Johnny, and dream of all the sales you'll never get, all the money you'll never see, and all the acolades your product will never receive. Not only because I truly think it's a crap product, but because you're too afraid to let anyone else near the things.

It seems you truly are as pathetic as some of us assumed you would be. Come back when you have some balls and faith in your product.

I said, I'm DOWN WITH IT! For those that do not understand what the response means. I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged. A place like a college or music store like GC or SAM ASH or Jay Lenno. If you cant, then I'll let you know when you can see them in Cleveland at one of MY PUBLIC GIGS.

Originally Posted by WhiplashBand
Well it would be the perfect time to put up or shut up... what better way to hear these things than in person? No excuses can be made about recording techniques, computer speakers, etc... I'll have the ultimate judge for my purchases... MY OWN EARS

So Johnny... are ya gonna man up, or puss out?

Thing is, I doubt YOU could organize the platform WORTHY of the presence of ELECTRIC DRUMS. I dont think I ever responded to any of YOUR post before, mostly cause of the lacking content. BUT, I like a challenge. So as not to waste my response, I challenge you to provide a worthy LIVE audience AND opponents.


Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiplashBand
Perhaps when we play Cleveland, I'll swing by the old Grafton area and see these things in person....

....or see ya at a Cleveland area gig, keep you posted.
__________________

[SyntheticTubs]

i think he is MONO TONNO

If that is Italian for "Johnny Nodick is a chunk of ape shit" I agree.

[zarazabas]

I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged.

If you're not interested in proving anything, why are you still here trying to convince everyone that your drums are the greatest? And why should whiplash have to set everything up? The onus of proof regarding the quality of YOUR product is on YOU, not us. If you don't want to prove the quality of your drums to us, then you are just gonna have to accept the fact that we think they're shit. Which they are, by the way. You disagree? Prove it :poke:

[D Carroll]

If that is Italian for "Johnny Nodick is a chunk of ape shit" I agree.

a few months ago it was a dude who trolled about, and posted "why don't you die" threads...

[SyntheticTubs]

a few months ago it was a dude who trolled about, and posted "why don't you die" threads...

Sounds like someone *almost* as charming as Johnny.

[D Carroll]

he was nice enough to leave...

[johnny nobody]

If that is Italian for "Johnny Nodick is a chunk of ape shit" I agree.

You are a brain-dead redneck asshole. Period. You are far too retarded to run a business, your drums are pathetic, and you are just a piece of shit spammer. You have no redeeming value at all.

It's time to ignore everything he does. If anyone from this forum even dares inquire about his products, they are indeed, brain damaged. Never buy anything from someone that is so completely rude, illiterate and boorishly unsophisticated.


Listen tubby,

Im sure there are alot of young people on this forum that do not need to hear your ranting and vulgar language.
Im sure there are alot of people on this forum that do not need your help in DECIDEING for THEMSELVES what ELECTRIC DRUMS are capable of. So if you just go to your SPAM post and stay over there, they will all know how you feel about me. Why would you even threaten other members for making inquiries? Do ELECTRIC DRUMS threaten your business some way?

[zarazabas]

Im sure there are alot of people on this forum that do not need your help in DECIDEING for THEMSELVES what ELECTRIC DRUMS are capable of.

Well pretty much everyone has decided that they suck. They all came to that conclusion themselves, based on the videos you posted. You fail. You are not going to change peoples mind by arguing, the only way you will change peoples minds is by posting better quality videos, which may or may not (but probably wont) display them in a better light. Even then, you would still have to convince people that you are a decent person to purchase from and will offer good customer service. I think you've already burned that potential bridge, so regardless of how good these drums are, you are doomed to failure. Quit your fucking whinging about us not agreeing with you, and accept the fact that we think you and your drums suck. We are allowed to think that you know.... depsite what you may think, people can disagree with you. If all you're after is acceptance then go hire a bunch of 'yes' men. If you really want to develop this concept into a successful project, listen to your potential customers. If you don't want to do that, leave. Simple.

[johnny nobody]

Well pretty much everyone has decided that they suck. They all came to that conclusion themselves, based on the videos you posted. You fail. You are not going to change peoples mind by arguing, the only way you will change peoples minds is by posting better quality videos, which may or may not (but probably wont) display them in a better light. Even then, you would still have to convince people that you are a decent person to purchase from and will offer good customer service. I think you've already burned that potential bridge, so regardless of how good these drums are, you are doomed to failure. Quit your fucking whinging about us not agreeing with you, and accept the fact that we think you and your drums suck. We are allowed to think that you know.... depsite what you may think, people can disagree with you. If all you're after is acceptance then go hire a bunch of 'yes' men. If you really want to develop this concept into a successful project, listen to your potential customers. If you don't want to do that, leave. Simple.

Im not sure I EVER answered a single comment of yours before. But I would like to thank you for starting the BAN JOHNNY NOBODY POLL. It proves that "WE" are not you or your buddies. Later Whiner.

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas


Feel free to add any thread crashin idiots you know.

[larryguitar]

To be straightforward-

Those sounded like ass. But-

If they were gods gift to tone, I still wouldn't buy them from you.

[SyntheticTubs]

All he did was cut and paste parts into a drum shell.

Oh boy!!! Speakers IN a drum!!!

[WhiplashBand]

All he did was cut and paste parts into a drum shell.

Oh boy!!! Speakers IN a drum!!!

What a great idea... who needs all that damned air taking up the valuable real estate inside a drum...

[johnny nobody]

Originally Posted by johnny nobody
I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged.

If you're not interested in proving anything, why are you still here trying to convince everyone that your drums are the greatest? And why should whiplash have to set everything up? The onus of proof regarding the quality of YOUR product is on YOU, not us. If you don't want to prove the quality of your drums to us, then you are just gonna have to accept the fact that we think they're shit. Which they are, by the way. You disagree? Prove it :poke:



View Poll Results: Should Johnny Nobody be banned?
Hell yes 10 35.71%
Hell no 2 7.14%
I don't care 10 35.71%
I love ELECTRIC DRUMS!!!!!111!!! 6 21.43%

The question is, WHY are YOU tryin to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are not the BEST IN THE WORLD?

READ first paragraph at top of this post. You are 1 of the people I am talking about.

Also here...

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

SO, why would I want to prove anything to you? Are YOU somebody? Ill go with the public audience. Or did you guys wuss out on that one?





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[SyntheticTubs]

Eye made a 'lectric drum that is more wikkid ahhsomer than yore akoostik drums. Ah done screwed it tuhgether in mah gee-rage and it's more bettur than anithing. it's the wurlds bestest drums!!! it has 9 direkt-reflectificatin drivurs too! Eye don't need to pruve it's more bettur, it's bettur kause eye say soh. If ewe dawn't luv it...yull c mah tatu!!! Eye am gunna make a lectric symbul 2. it will beet yor zill-juns!

:bor:

[D Carroll]

thst snare lloke ti besterest ever!!! ELECTRIC!!!11!!!!1!!!!1

[D Carroll]

SO, why would I want to prove anything to you? Are YOU somebody? Ill go with the public audience. Or did you guys wuss out on that one?
.

if you are ever in nashville, i will get an audience together.

[johnny nobody]

if you are ever in nashville, i will get an audience together.
YOU must meet the terms if you wanna PROVE SOMETHING.

[johnny nobody]

What a great idea... who needs all that damned air taking up the valuable real estate inside a drum...

ELECTRIC DRUMS can control that air! Its not the space you have, Its how you manipulate it.

[zarazabas]

YOU must meet the terms if you wanna PROVE SOMETHING.

Aren't you the one trying to prove something? At least, you should be. I seriously can't believe that someone would invent something and then NOT go out of their way to prove its worth. Why the fuck should Mondo_fire have to prove anything? It's your product, you do the fucking leg work you dumb shit motherfucker.

[D Carroll]

Aren't you the one trying to prove something? At least, you should be. I seriously can't believe that someone would invent something and then NOT go out of their way to prove its worth. Why the fuck should Mondo_fire have to prove anything? It's your product, you do the fucking leg work you dumb shit motherfucker.

can i get an amen!

[SyntheticTubs]

can i get an amen!

Johnny's deceit is typical of a snake oil salesman.

"Lies and deceit formulated to sell junk to fools"

It's all fun and games until consumer litigation. This one has fraud written all over it.

[johnny nobody]

All he did was cut and paste parts into a drum shell.

Oh boy!!! Speakers IN a drum!!!YOU couldnt build an electric drum. or make it work mr SyntheticTubs;26222723
if the idea even WAS obvious to you that ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD.

[SyntheticTubs]

YOU couldnt build an electric drum. or make it work mr SyntheticTubs;26222723


Actually, I have been building PC's, modifying audio gear and drums since 1978. Nothing that you are capable of is over my head. You are a layman, with a rudimentary understanding of electronics and acoustics. It's obvious that you have not been to college or even a vocational school for mechanics or electronics.

We have established your allergy to any spell check functions. We have established your inability to differentiate electrical from electronic. We have also established your total lack of business and sales acumen. And finally, the consensus that you have assembled a craptastic product, and lied about it's patent.

Incidentally, is 2622723 your phone number? or are you such an idiot that you have resorted to trying decimal numbers to communicate?

[johnny nobody]

Aren't you the one trying to prove something? At least, you should be. I seriously can't believe that someone would invent something and then NOT go out of their way to prove its worth. Why the fuck should Mondo_fire have to prove anything? It's your product, you do the fucking leg work you dumb shit motherfucker.

MY "legwork" wouldnt bring me your way for any reason. ESPECIALLY because your foul mouth and inability to understand that other members than yourself are on this thread, just read the view number. So go somwhere and prove something to YOURSELF if you want proof. OR... step up to the plate and organize a PUBLIC demo/judgeing so I CAN PROOVE IT TO YOU LIKE YOU WANT ME TOO. But you cant DO that, can you.

Besides I already told you thread crashers..

johnny nobody Originally Posted by johnny nobody
I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged.


Quote:
Originally Posted by zarazabas
If you're not interested in proving anything, why are you still here trying to convince everyone that your drums are the greatest? And why should whiplash have to set everything up? The onus of proof regarding the quality of YOUR product is on YOU, not us. If you don't want to prove the quality of your drums to us, then you are just gonna have to accept the fact that we think they're shit. Which they are, by the way. You disagree? Prove it

View Poll Results: Should Johnny Nobody be banned?
Hell yes 10 35.71%
Hell no 2 7.14%
I don't care 10 35.71%
I love ELECTRIC DRUMS!!!!!111!!! 6 21.43%

Originally Posted by johnny nobody

The question is, WHY are YOU tryin to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are not the BEST IN THE WORLD?

READ first paragraph at top of this post. You are 1 of the people I am talking about.

Also here...

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

SO, why would I want to prove anything to you? Are YOU somebody? Ill go with the public audience. Or did you guys wuss out on that one?

[WhiplashBand]

So go find a public audience Johnny... it seems you want US to do that for you... nobody's stopping YOU from finding a public forum for your "drums"... be like Nike... Just Do It

[zarazabas]

MY "legwork" wouldnt bring me your way for any reason. ESPECIALLY because your foul mouth and inability to understand that other members than yourself are on this thread, just read the view number. So go somwhere and prove something to YOURSELF if you want proof. OR... step up to the plate and organize a PUBLIC demo/judgeing so I CAN PROOVE IT TO YOU LIKE YOU WANT ME TOO. But you cant DO that, can you.

Besides I already told you thread crashers..

johnny nobody Originally Posted by johnny nobody
I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged.


Quote:
Originally Posted by zarazabas
If you're not interested in proving anything, why are you still here trying to convince everyone that your drums are the greatest? And why should whiplash have to set everything up? The onus of proof regarding the quality of YOUR product is on YOU, not us. If you don't want to prove the quality of your drums to us, then you are just gonna have to accept the fact that we think they're shit. Which they are, by the way. You disagree? Prove it

View Poll Results: Should Johnny Nobody be banned?
Hell yes 10 35.71%
Hell no 2 7.14%
I don't care 10 35.71%
I love ELECTRIC DRUMS!!!!!111!!! 6 21.43%

Originally Posted by johnny nobody

The question is, WHY are YOU tryin to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are not the BEST IN THE WORLD?

READ first paragraph at top of this post. You are 1 of the people I am talking about.

Also here...

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

SO, why would I want to prove anything to you? Are YOU somebody? Ill go with the public audience. Or did you guys wuss out on that one?

Johhny. You really are incredibly stupid. I mean.... seriously astoundingly stupid. Do you not realise that unless you prove that your product is good, no one will buy it? Nor will they do your work for you and prove it for themselves. I have no interest in proving how good your product is. In fact, i take the fact that you can't do it for yourself as proof that your product is shitty. Anyone with a truly quality product would simply say, "sure, my product is great, here's the proof."

Oh, and here's a little lesson in logic for you. You claim that ELECTRIC DRUMS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD.

1.Despite what you may think, the question of which are the "best drums in the world" is a subjective one. You can not answer the question for anyone but yourself.

2. Have you tried every drum in the world? I'm guessing the answer is no, in which case you can not even subjectively say (never mind objectively) that they are the best in the world.

The above two points are IRREFUTABLE. Therefore i have logically proven that you cannot correctly claim that electric drums are the best in the world. Any further attempts to do so will just further illustrate your lack of common sense.

Oh, and you still haven't proven any of your ridiculous claims.

[9 stroke roll]

Johhny. You really are incredibly stupid. I mean.... seriously astoundingly stupid. Do you not realise that unless you prove that your product is good, no one will buy it? Nor will they do your work for you and prove it for themselves. I have no interest in proving how good your product is. In fact, i take the fact that you can't do it for yourself as proof that your product is shitty. Anyone with a truly quality product would simply say, "sure, my product is great, here's the proof."

Oh, and here's a little lesson in logic for you. You claim that ELECTRIC DRUMS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD.

1.Despite what you may think, the question of which are the "best drums in the world" is a subjective one. You can not answer the question for anyone but yourself.

2. Have you tried every drum in the world? I'm guessing the answer is no, in which case you can not even subjectively say (never mind objectively) that they are the best in the world.

The above two points are IRREFUTABLE. Therefore i have logically proven that you cannot correctly claim that electric drums are the best in the world. Any further attempts to do so will just further illustrate your lack of common sense.

Oh, and you still haven't proven any of your ridiculous claims.

Best post in the world.

Also, I'm the greatest drummer in the world and the greatest poster on this forum.

Also, Sound Percussion budget kits are the greatest drum kits.

[johnny nobody]

Actually, I have been building PC's, modifying audio gear and drums since 1978. Nothing that you are capable of is over my head. You are a layman, with a rudimentary understanding of electronics and acoustics. It's obvious that you have not been to college or even a vocational school for mechanics or electronics.

We have established your allergy to any spell check functions. We have established your inability to differentiate electrical from electronic. We have also established your total lack of business and sales acumen. And finally, the consensus that you have assembled a craptastic product, and lied about it's patent.

Incidentally, is 2622723 your phone number? or are you such an idiot that you have resorted to trying decimal numbers to communicate?

THIS is WAY over your head and you could NEVER make an ELECTRIC DRUM. Putting PC cards in the slots isnt BUILDING a computer. WHAT audio gear have you modified? WHERES your patent liar? Did you forget that YOU have also misspelled simple words on this thread? Try as you will to discredit my reputation, but that will never change the fact that ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD and I invented them!

Go back to posting for your endorsees. Advertising is all ur good for.

[SyntheticTubs]

THIS is WAY over your head and you could NEVER make an ELECTRIC DRUM. Putting PC cards in the slots isnt BUILDING a computer. WHAT audio gear have you modified? WHERES your patent liar? Did you forget that YOU have also misspelled simple words on this thread? Try as you will to discredit my reputation, but that will never change the fact that ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD and I invented them!

Go back to posting for your endorsees. Advertising is all ur good for.

No you moronic garage monkey. I have replaced chips, re-clocked cd players, re-built and modified power supplies, built acoustic loudspeakers from scratch using rare-earth magnets and carbon or poly drivers. I have re-built and analyzed circuit boards, FFT alignment and measurement, precision soldering and CAE work. All way beyond your pathetic tinkertoy project, and your cro-magnon mentality. You can't bullshit people that know more than you about the topics at hand.

Unlike you, I just go about my buisiness without lying and exaggerating about quality, patents or "best in the world" claims. I have nothing to sell, no snake oil here. You are so greasy you should open up a used car lot. I need a shower, I feel soiled after reading the garbage you have posted. Everyone feels dumber for your participation here. You are the very feces that contaminates the colon that everyone wants to evacuate.

[9 stroke roll]

I'm 100% convinced that Nobody is just trolling everyone for fun. I find it hard to believe that anyone is THAT stupid.

[jenksdrummer]

THIS is WAY over your head and you could NEVER make an ELECTRIC DRUM. Putting PC cards in the slots isnt BUILDING a computer. WHAT audio gear have you modified? WHERES your patent liar? Did you forget that YOU have also misspelled simple words on this thread? Try as you will to discredit my reputation, but that will never change the fact that ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD and I invented them!

Go back to posting for your endorsees. Advertising is all ur good for.

Sorry, but the only discrediting of a reputation I've seen, is coming from you.

[xush]

how about some acoustic mics to go with those electric drums?
that might be a cool experiment

[SkiAz4Free]

Try as you will to discredit my reputation, but that will never change the fact that ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD and I invented them!

I finally figured out who he is.

It's...



It's...





GARGMEL, the arch nemesis of the SMURFS!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/Gargamel_and_Azrael_from_the_Smurfs.jpg/494px-Gargamel_and_Azrael_from_the_Smurfs.jpg

[SyntheticTubs]

[QUOTE=SkiAz4Free;26305081]I finally figured out who he is.

It's...

It's...

GARGMEL, the arch nemesis of the SMURFS!




...and I'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!*







*mixed metaphors and cartoons are allowed when dissing a spammer or troll.

[WhiplashBand]

ROFLCOPTER!

[HuskerDude]

I've watched five of these videos so far, and I haven't heard a usable tone on one of them.

[johnny nobody]

how about some acoustic mics to go with those electric drums?
that might be a cool experiment

You can mic these ELECTRIC DRUMS on stage just like acoustics. In a small club with no mics they still have a mic'ed up and main mix sound if you program the module that way.

[johnny nobody]

No you moronic garage monkey. I have replaced chips, re-clocked cd players, re-built and modified power supplies, built acoustic loudspeakers from scratch using rare-earth magnets and carbon or poly drivers. I have re-built and analyzed circuit boards, FFT alignment and measurement, precision soldering and CAE work. All way beyond your pathetic tinkertoy project, and your cro-magnon mentality. You can't bullshit people that know more than you about the topics at hand.

Unlike you, I just go about my buisiness without lying and exaggerating about quality, patents or "best in the world" claims. I have nothing to sell, no snake oil here. You are so greasy you should open up a used car lot. I need a shower, I feel soiled after reading the garbage you have posted. Everyone feels dumber for your participation here. You are the very feces that contaminates the colon that everyone wants to evacuate.

What a DRAMA QUEEN! your post here are full lies, unfounded accusations, mis-quotes and mis-information.

Even if you CAN follow instructions, it dosnt mean you can build a working ELECTRIC DRUM! Your imagination seems more bent toward advertising than creating a BETTER WORLD FOR PERCUSSIONIST.
PLEASE STOP trying to sound like a spokesperson for EVERYONE. Over 3000 people viewing this thread can speak for themselves. YOU and the thread crashers are alone. I dont think you FEEL dumber for MY participation. LOOK! Im over here, dont find me, I dont wanna have to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD.

[SyntheticTubs]

What a DRAMA QUEEN! your post here are full lies, unfounded accusations, mis-quotes and mis-information.

Even if you CAN follow instructions, it dosnt mean you can build a working ELECTRIC DRUM! Your imagination seems more bent toward advertising than creating a BETTER WORLD FOR PERCUSSIONIST.
PLEASE STOP trying to sound like a spokesperson for EVERYONE. Over 3000 people viewing this thread can speak for themselves. YOU and the thread crashers are alone. I dont think you FEEL dumber for MY participation. LOOK! Im over here, dont find me, I dont wanna have to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD.

The 3,000 views are those laughing at you like a sideshow freak. Please stop sounding like someone who sells a GOOD product... you crack me up! You should be on the blue collar comedy tour, because you carry around your own sign. Reading your simple-minded drollery and witnessing your rapier-like wit is better than a double espresso... I laugh so hard at you that my eyes water up and I can't type correctly. I mean with you, it's illiteracy and sheer stupidity, with the rest of us it's LOL at you!!! Someone should embed some circus calliope music to accompany your posts!

[jenksdrummer]

<lollerskates>

[ddeerreekk]

What a DRAMA QUEEN! your post here are full lies, unfounded accusations, mis-quotes and mis-information.

Even if you CAN follow instructions, it dosnt mean you can build a working ELECTRIC DRUM! Your imagination seems more bent toward advertising than creating a BETTER WORLD FOR PERCUSSIONIST.
PLEASE STOP trying to sound like a spokesperson for EVERYONE. Over 3000 people viewing this thread can speak for themselves. YOU and the thread crashers are alone. I dont think you FEEL dumber for MY participation. LOOK! Im over here, dont find me, I dont wanna have to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are the BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD.

I decided to stay out of this thread, but your utter stupidity just makes me cringe. The drums are an interesting idea and could be cool in theory, but in reality sound all-around terrible.

You are acting so absurd that I'm forced to believe you are nothing more then a troll with a poor quality product, and continue to believe you can force it upon all of us here.

"Best drums in the world".... lulz

[johnny nobody]

I decided to stay out of this thread, but your utter stupidity just makes me cringe. The drums are an interesting idea and could be cool in theory, but in reality sound all-around terrible.

You are acting so absurd that I'm forced to believe you are nothing more then a troll with a poor quality product, and continue to believe you can force it upon all of us here.

"Best drums in the world".... lulzIm not FORCEING you to do anything. If you are so bias against the written facts in this thread, I am certain you dont know the FACTS of your own opinions. YOU sound terrible, ELECTRIC DRUMS sound great. LISTEN to the VIDEO.

How is 6 people "all" of us?
cause the rest are NOBODY!

[WhiplashBand]

Im not FORCEING you to do anything. If you are so bias against the written facts in this thread, I am certain you dont know the FACTS of your own opinions. YOU sound terrible, ELECTRIC DRUMS sound great. LISTEN to the VIDEO.

How is 6 people "all" of us?
cause the rest are NOBODY!

What "written facts"??? There hasn't been one single fact produced from you to prove ANYTHING Johnny...

I also notice you ducked the earlier question of how many of these "kits" you've sold.

I think we all know the answer to that one ;)

[D Carroll]

no facts. The drums sound bad, i would recommend you stop wasting your mommy's money, and get a real fucking job.

[zarazabas]

What "written facts"??? There hasn't been one single fact produced from you to prove ANYTHING Johnny...

I also notice you ducked the earlier question of how many of these "kits" you've sold.

I think we all know the answer to that one ;)

Johnny tends to avoid the challenging questions. It's almost as though he has selective reading. And he still hasn't grasped the concept of capitalization, or even basic logic.

Johnny, were you dropped on your head as a baby? Repeatedly? Did your mom do a lot of drugs while she was pregnant with you? And finally, when you are on your period, was kind of tampons do you use?

[D Carroll]

the question "how many kits have you sold?" it will never get an answer, thinking of such a high number (one) hurts johnny's little head.

[WhiplashBand]

the question "how many kits have you sold?" it will never get an answer, thinking of such a high number (one) hurts johnny's little head.

I'm amazed at your remark mondo... amazed and shocked...

You think he actually sold one of those piles of shit??

:lol:

[D Carroll]

as i have stated in an earlier post, he sold one to his mother, of whom does not even play drums. classy lady

[FitchFY]

Are you guys still seriously talking to this dude? Come on, this is PURE HUMOR, from head to toe. There's no real information, no real ANYTHING -- this is pure comedic fodder, amigos.

Just sit back and have a good laugh. :D

[D Carroll]

Are you guys still seriously talking to this dude? Come on, this is PURE HUMOR, from head to toe. There's no real information, no real ANYTHING -- this is pure comedic fodder, amigos.

Just sit back and have a good laugh. :D

i enjoy egging him on...

[johnny nobody]

Besides I already told you thread crashers..


I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged.


View Poll Results: Should Johnny Nobody be banned?
Hell yes 10 35.71%
Hell no 2 7.14%
I don't care 10 35.71%
I love ELECTRIC DRUMS!!!!!111!!! 6 21.43%

The question is, WHY are YOU tryin to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are not the BEST IN THE WORLD?

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

SO, why would I want to prove anything to you? Are YOU somebody? Ill go with the public audience. Or did you guys wuss out on that one?
__________________
Worlds Only ELECTRIC DRUMS
www.youtube.com/electricdrums

[SyntheticTubs]

Besides I already told you thread crashers..


I accept the CHALLENGE. But Im not interested in proving anything to you or your 4 or 5 thread crashin partners. SO, you must set up a PUBLIC platform, where the PUBLIC can see ELECTRIC DRUMS live, and judge PUBLICLY. Also you must have an opponent from electronic pads and acoustic drum to demo their equipment so the LIVE comparison is equally judged.


View Poll Results: Should Johnny Nobody be banned?
Hell yes 10 35.71%
Hell no 2 7.14%
I don't care 10 35.71%
I love ELECTRIC DRUMS!!!!!111!!! 6 21.43%

The question is, WHY are YOU tryin to prove ELECTRIC DRUMS are not the BEST IN THE WORLD?

HEY FELLOW MUSICIANS<

As it is documented in this thread from the beginning, the COMPETITION hates what they have no control over, as in ELECTRIC DRUMS. IF you just flip all the idiots and thread crashers to the ignore list, you will find a couple of answered questions in this thread. Other wise enjoy their PROFFESSIONAL misuse of the forum. I would remember who they are though so when you see their threads you might remember who they really work for.

Especially these guys.

WhiplashBand
SyntheticTubs
HottKarl
zarazabas

SO, why would I want to prove anything to you? Are YOU somebody? Ill go with the public audience. Or did you guys wuss out on that one?
__________________
Worlds Only ELECTRIC DRUMS
www.youtube.com/electricdrums

I wear pissing Johnny Nodick off, like a badge of honor! If I have accomplished nothing else here, I have enjoyed disrespecting this mindless dirtbag in every possible way.

We should have awards for the best slam against Johnny. I think I shall write some prose about him!

[D Carroll]

i am still not on the list... what am i doing wrong?

[SyntheticTubs]

i am still not on the list... what am i doing wrong?

Perhaps it's time to take the gloves off... ya gotta really find a button and keep pushing it until he starts bawling :cry: like he has for the rest of us in "Thread Crashers International."

Work on your "troll dissing" merit badge... ;)

[D Carroll]

i think he keeps me off because he knows i want to be on it so bad. I love how he makes it up, and expects that just because he said you guys suck, i should not read any of your threads, because you crash them.
Johnny, i have a new project for you, put a speaker in a toilet, take a shit, put a drum head on the shit, and see how it sounds... i will guess it sounds just like the "snare" you have "made" by the way, good luck trying to sell your "product" i hope none of the companies you stole from catches on. And farther more, thank you for taking normal drums and fucking them up, too many drums sound good on this planet, thank you for thinning the heard. Also, i would like you to know that you have made me a better drummer, every time i hear your "drums" i have to go and play a real kit, just to get the shitty sounds out of my head. Thank you.

[SyntheticTubs]

Some Bad prose.

"Johnny Nobody part 1"

From Grafton, Ohio to the forum came Johnny the Turd
He claimed “The best drums in the world!”, he gave us his word
He posted a video, confident his product would be a hit
What everyone actually heard, sounded like half-baked shit

Johnny was given notice that his products actually suck
He dismissed those opinions like water off a duck
His inability to spell and bad grammar is a gas
With every single post, he becomes a bigger ass

Forumites have posed queries about his role
He ignored simple questions and decided to troll
Johnny is nothing more than a fraud and a spammer
His pathetic drums have fallen under the hammer

Try as he may, harmony central he cannot convince
That his FAULTY products do anything more than make us wince
He claims he has patents on his craptastic electric drums
All the while he compulsively masturbates using only his thumbs

We want Johnny to go away, he writes like steaming poo
Is banning him really censorship, or the right thing to do?
I ponder this moron “nobody,” the laughing stock of the year
He really should go back to fornicating cattle and steer.

Yes it’s true; Johnny has made some truly horrible junk
He’s proven to be an inbred redneck and a useless punk
He will never sell his pathetic invention, those lousy toys
He should pursue his true passion of dry-humping boys.

Please Johnny, learn how to speak, and how to spell
Because you know your rep is shot all to hell
You are an evil clown and an attention whore
So please I beg you, leave immediately out the exit door.

[D Carroll]

you're a poet and didn't know it (or ya did...)

[WhiplashBand]

I nominate Synthetic as the poet laurette (or however you spell it) of the HC forums... good show!

[D Carroll]

I nominate Synthetic as the poet Laurette (or however you spell it) of the HC forums... good show!

second (i fixed the spelling in the quote for ya!)

[WhiplashBand]

second (i fixed the spelling in the quote for ya!)

Thanx mouse... I mean mondo... :poke::lol:

[D Carroll]

why am i mouse-ish? oh well... i can make my drums sound good...

[SyntheticTubs]

why am i mouse-ish? oh well... i can make my drums sound good...

Mice are actually kind of cute.

http://whyfiles.org/shorties/131mouse_evolution/images/tree_mouse2sm.jpg

It's the diseased sewer rats like Johnny that bother everyone.

[D Carroll]

true that yo... i am just upset that all i got was mouse

[SyntheticTubs]

true that yo... i am just upset that all i got was mouse

See he's a retard. The story he attempted to allude to in his addled mental state, was the pied piper. He led RATS out of Ireland, not mice. He's so damned stupid he can't even diss correctly, yo.

[D Carroll]

true that. you would have to be retarded to make ELECTRIC drums

[SyntheticTubs]

true that. you would have to be retarded to make ELECTRIC drums

He was inspired by the time he was 14 (just a few years ago) when he stuck his fork into an outlet.

As a side effect, his ears blew out, so he honestly can't tell how bad his junk really is.

His mind is nothing but a low-level hum.

He is like herpes: he won't go away and he irritates everyone when he shows up.

"Johnny smoke crack and I don't care...Johnny smoke crack and I don't care..."

[D Carroll]

ELECTRIC DRUMS + ELECTRIC BRUSHES = DRUM BLICS

(mis-spelling of bliss, donchya' know')

[johnny nobody]

See he's a retard. The story he attempted to allude to in his addled mental state, was the pied piper. He led RATS out of Ireland, not mice. He's so damned stupid he can't even diss correctly, yo.
You can call them any rodent you want. You should STOP referring to retardation as sub human. Some people on this site or their family may have mental or physical disabilities, that doesnt make them less than you for sure.

[D Carroll]

You can call them any rodent you want. You should STOP referring to retardation as sub human. Some people on this site or their family may have mental or physical disabilities, that doesnt make them less than you for sure.

but they are smart enough to not make ELECTRIC "DRUMS"

[johnny nobody]

I've watched five of these videos so far, and I haven't heard a usable tone on one of them. What kind of music do you play? Both kinds?

[johnny nobody]

"Johnny Nobody part 1"



A dry humped boy name Synthetictubs
blew on his pipe for all his bubs
see, he could lead the mice all around
to the cheese and the spam, and there learn about sound

But into their kingdom came ELECTRIC DRUMS
and offered a new sound to those old cheese bums
a nobody said "come see what I got
its the BEST IN THE WORLD", that says alot
come take a look, see what you think
its on video, just follow the link

So, Tubs and his bubs went to the site
for lack of comprehension, they piped out their spite
thats just silly, what ELECTRIC DRUMS do
no drummer needs it, no mice and not you.
Tubs blew so hard to lead them astray
and the cheese got old, no reason to stay

The story goes on, some mice slipped away
and told all the others, pipers sound gay
down inside some of them knew
the sound of ELECTRIC DRUMS no other could do
and the physical aspects they could achieve
was the coolest thing, you had see to believe

So Nobody plays his ELECTRIC DRUMS
maybe the mice will give him some crumbs.

[johnny nobody]

I just looked at Hope drums site, and I am not going to drop $1,200 on a set of pad for this purpose. .

While I do appreciate you visiting my site...please remember those prices are MAP!! That is the lowest price that I can post or advertise per the manufacturer! Send me an email brian@hopedrums.com and I'll work on getting you something within your budget!! (Also, remind me who you are in your email!)

Brian .


What about $35 per pad? Too much? Pintech has some of their SE-101 and 102 pads that they are getting rid of at that price. They are a discontinued product that they took in on "retro upgrade" from customers toward newer pads. .[/QUOTE]

That's dirt cheap! 4 of those 102's and a brain would work... I'd have to see what type of stand would work. I intend to tightly cluster them.

At those prices...maybe a standard 5-pc config with a rack... hmmm.


Ok, I have determined that the Pintech 102 pads are sufficient. However, now it comes down to a module that can produced the aforementioned sounds.

SPAMMY

[HuskerDude]

What kind of music do you play? Both kinds?

I do play country and western music, in addition to, in the last few years, session work or shows playing: punk, rocksteady/reggae, alternative rock, 60's style R&B, hip hop, electro, house, and I did kit and percussion work with a chamber pop group. Why do you ask?

[johnny nobody]

I do play country and western music, in addition to, in the last few years, session work or shows playing: punk, rocksteady/reggae, alternative rock, 60's style R&B, hip hop, electro, house, and I did kit and percussion work with a chamber pop group. Why do you ask?
ELECTRIC DRUMS are versatile. Anyone that plays and records knows how much many different tuneings and tones can expand the ability to stay in tune with each song and have distinct tones. So I cant see how someone could NOT see a "usable" use for ALL the kits in the videos.

[HuskerDude]

ELECTRIC DRUMS are versitile. Anyone that plays and records knows how much many different tuneings and tones can expand the ability to stay in tune with each song and have distinct tones. So I cant see how someone could NOT see a "usable" use for ALL the kits in the videos.

Since they "ALL" sounded like a CB 700 that hadn't been tuned this century, I think you might be out of your damn mind.

[johnny nobody]

Since they "ALL" sounded like a CB 700 that hadn't been tuned this century, I think you might be out of your damn mind. No drum set no matter what the tuneing is a comparison to ELECTRIC DRUMS. If you cant think outside the box, you may as well stay in it.

[HuskerDude]

No drum set no matter what the tuneing is a comparison to ELECTRIC DRUMS. If you cant think outside the box, you may as well stay in it.

I'm assuming that would be a cardboard box, since that appears to be the sound you're going for.

[Hope Drums]

Johnny,

I have yet to come into one of your threads and make comments or referrals to you and your product. Why have you chosen to pull my posts and drag them into your situation?! There is a big difference between going into the forum and posting new threads advertising your crap and answering questions trying to benefit a member by making them aware of an inexpensive discontinued product that a company is clearing out. You are a menace to the forum!! Try and be an asset, not an a$$ and you might get a little more respect!

Brian

[johnny nobody]

Johnny,

I have yet to come into one of your threads and make comments or referrals to you and your product. Why have you chosen to pull my posts and drag them into your situation?! There is a big difference between going into the forum and posting new threads advertising your crap and answering questions trying to benefit a member by making them aware of an inexpensive discontinued product that a company is clearing out. You are a menace to the forum!! Try and be an asset, not an a$$ and you might get a little more respect!

Brian Sorry about that. When Im being attacked on all sides I tend to grab the closest weapons. I still see alot of SPAM threads goin on though.

[SkiAz4Free]

I thought spamming in a forum, meant that someone was trying to hawck their wares (selling things) without being a positive contribution to the forum itself... sound like anybody you know Johnny?

And you still have never answered MY question. How many of these have you sold or otherwise distributed? It's a simple question, really.

One way you COULD avoid being "attacked from all sides" would be to simply quit posting.

:blah:

[johnny nobody]

I thought spamming in a forum, meant that someone was trying to hawck their wares (selling things) without being a positive contribution to the forum itself... sound like anybody you know Johnny?

And you still have never answered MY question. How many of these have you sold or otherwise distributed? It's a simple question, really.

One way you COULD avoid being "attacked from all sides" would be to simply quit posting.

:blah:
You missed it. Who are you? nobody. So quit posting.

[slap happy drums]

Who are you? nobody.
I thought you're nobody....whos on first?


SkiAz he has probably sold none , otherwise he would be bragging about his sales.


Meh

[johnny nobody]

I thought you're nobody....whos on first?



SkiAz he has probably sold none , otherwise he would be bragging about his sales.


Meh

I'm Nobody, he is nobody. ELECTRIC DRUMS are enough to brag about. Everything else is none of your business.

[SkiAz4Free]

Johnny, you are an enigma.

[9 stroke roll]

This forum is unbelievable. It's a small, tight knit group of people coming together in a positive light. An EXTREMELY obvious troll shows up and then the moderator refuses to ban them. What the fuck, man?

[ermghoti II]

Johnny, you are an enema.

Fixed.

[johnny nobody]

Johnny, you are an enigma. Most people dont know what that is or how to spell it.

[johnny nobody]

Fixed. Johnny, you are an enema. I hope I can get all the shit out of your head.

[ermghoti II]

You can use it to make your next kit.

[johnny nobody]

You can use it to make your next kit.

It would not only BE an enigma, but it would be the BEST IN THE WORLD. EVEN if I made it from your shit.

[slap happy drums]

it could only be an improvement.

[zildjian@consol]

This forum is unbelievable. It's a small, tight knit group of people coming together in a positive light. An EXTREMELY obvious troll shows up and then the moderator refuses to ban them. What the fuck, man?

:thu:

[ermghoti II]

It would not only BE an enigma, but it would be the BEST IN THE WORLD. EVEN if I made it from your shit.

It is fortunate that your delusions are fairly harmless. Can you imagine the consequences if you thought you were bullet-proof, or the President? All you do now is post videos of what is unanimously considered a uselessly cumbersome answer to a question none has asked, which are, in turn, universally considered to be the worst-sounding faux percussion ever to offend the ears of the public at large. Oh, and post gibberish, you do post plenty of gibberish.

Fact: You have sold zero units.

Fact: You will never sell a single unit.

Get back to me with a customer testimonial/reference. That should be easy, I could do so in minutes for either my crappy band or my nascent recording operation. Until such time that you can forward such information, you can argue that the Dolphins won the 2008 Superbowl, and appear no more an imbecile than you have been since your arrival on these forums.

[slap happy drums]

It is fortunate that your delusions are fairly harmless. Can you imagine the consequences if you thought you were bullet-proof, or the President? All you do now is post videos of what is unanimously considered a uselessly cumbersome answer to a question none has asked, which are, in turn, universally considered to be the worst-sounding faux percussion ever to offend the ears of the public at large. Oh, and post gibberish, you do post plenty of gibberish.

Fact: You have sold zero units.

Fact: You will never sell a single unit.

Get back to me with a customer testimonial/reference. That should be easy, I could do so in minutes for either my crappy band or my nascent recording operation. Until such time that you can forward such information, you can argue that the Dolphins won the 2008 Superbowl, and appear no more an imbecile than you have been since your arrival on these forums.


well put

[johnny nobody]

It is fortunate that your delusions are fairly harmless. Can you imagine the consequences if you thought you were bullet-proof, or the President? All you do now is post videos of what is unanimously considered a uselessly cumbersome answer to a question none has asked, which are, in turn, universally considered to be the worst-sounding faux percussion ever to offend the ears of the public at large. Oh, and post gibberish, you do post plenty of gibberish.

Fact: You have sold zero units.

Fact: You will never sell a single unit.

Get back to me with a customer testimonial/reference. That should be easy, I could do so in minutes for either my crappy band or my nascent recording operation. Until such time that you can forward such information, you can argue that the Dolphins won the 2008 Superbowl, and appear no more an imbecile than you have been since your arrival on these forums. What makes you think I care? And please be specific when you ghost quote. I got a unit for you if you want one.

[johnny nobody]

well put
The only thing that would make your drum interesting is ELECTRICITY and that would be limited in your case. How can a person who sells only a djimba even comment on drums. I guess when you only use your hands theres nothing better to do. Except that one thing you do.

[slap happy drums]

Uhh I'm a percussionist , so I like kinda play most forms of percussion , trap set included. Check the Sig and feel free to listen to recordings of my drum set (Best in the World) and my band.
Also I make and sell Ashikos not Djembes (nobody makes djimbas), and guess what.....my drums sound good...in fact they sound great.....you know they just might be THE BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD!!!!
And lastly my drums don't need ELECTRICITY , I provide that myself.

Here's to someone spitting in your mouth while you sleep ,
-Cheers

P.S. you really haven't sold any have you?

[cearleywine]

hey slap happy, could you sell me one of those djimbas? I'm in the mood to purchase what you're selling which apparently are not drums.

[ermghoti II]

What makes you think I care?.

You don't care, that's why you will never sell anything. You don't care that your "product" sounds vile. You don't care that no one wants speakers in their drums. You don't care that adding the tuning problems of acoustic drums to the inauthenticity of electronic drums ampliflies the weaknesses of both of them. This is because you are delusional.

I got a unit for you if you want one.

Keep it at the bath-house.

[johnny nobody]

Uhh I'm a percussionist , so I like kinda play most forms of percussion , trap set included. Check the Sig and feel free to listen to recordings of my drum set (Best in the World) and my band.
Also I make and sell Ashikos not Djembes (nobody makes djimbas), and guess what.....my drums sound good...in fact they sound great.....you know they just might be THE BEST DRUMS IN THE WORLD!!!!
And lastly my drums don't need ELECTRICITY , I provide that myself.

Here's to someone spitting in your mouth while you sleep ,
-Cheers

P.S. you really haven't sold any have you? I dont care what you play or what tribe they come from. They arent anything a dinosaur couldnt crap out. When ELECTRIC DRUMS are still around Ashikos will be known as the one the world forgot, cause they never heard one.

[johnny nobody]

You don't care, that's why you will never sell anything. You don't care that your "product" sounds vile. You don't care that no one wants speakers in their drums. You don't care that adding the tuning problems of acoustic drums to the inauthenticity of electronic drums ampliflies the weaknesses of both of them. This is because you are delusional.



Keep it at the bath-house. The delusion is on your part. If you think I care what a ZERO thinks. You dont have the right to an answer on ANY question much less one thats none of your business. I love how stupid people analyze ELECTRIC DRUMS in their head and make statements on assumption. There are NO tuning problems with ELECTRIC DRUMS. The tune induced is the tune you get because the HEADS are controlled by induced tone NOT lugs. And even crappy, cheesy, old as Ashikos drum samples will sound better and more authentic in ELECTRIC DRUMS than any other application.

[ermghoti II]

You are as unqualified to pass judgement on my delusion or rights to question as you are to make a percussion product.

Firstly, we've heard your "product," and it is terrible. As well, we've seen your patent, so your design is understood by any poster that could be bothered to slag through it. Next, playing a sample across a tuned head will cause discordance, unless the sample is in tune with the head, which eliminates the alleged advantage of being able to choose samples on the fly. Your clip reinforces this fact. The exception would be if both heads are of the silent mesh variety, in which case there is no need for a resonant head.

If you want to see a zero, go read your list of sales.

[johnny nobody]

You are as unqualified to pass judgement on my delusion or rights to question as you are to make a percussion product.

Firstly, we've heard your "product," and it is terrible. As well, we've seen your patent, so your design is understood by any poster that could be bothered to slag through it. Next, playing a sample across a tuned head will cause discordance, unless the sample is in tune with the head, which eliminates the alleged advantage of being able to choose samples on the fly. Your clip reinforces this fact. The exception would be if both heads are of the silent mesh variety, in which case there is no need for a resonant head.

If you want to see a zero, go read your list of sales. And so is your terminology.

[slap happy drums]

Sell any drums yet Johnny?.....didn't think so

[ermghoti II]

And so is your terminology.


Wow! That post didn't have any all-caps entries! This is a spectacular breakthrough in your sub-rudimentary writing skills. I mean, sure the post was a mindless and vapid sentence fragment, but at that, it is still the most intelligent work you've shown.

Your "product" still sucks monkey ass. Nothing can help that.

[Fender Picker]

John was here;
Now he's gone.
Left his SPAM
to carry on.

[Sytubs]

Once you caused the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond your illusion
You were spamming ever harder, but you trolled too long
Though your eyes could see, you still were a banned man
Though your mind could not think, you're still just a mad man
You hear the voices when your trolling,
You can hear them say

Carry on you wayward scum,
For there'll be peace when you are gone
Lay your brainless head to rest
Now don't you troll no more

Masquerading as a man with a reason
Your charade was the event of the season
And if you claim to be a wise man, it surely
means that you don't know
On a drum forum of moving emotion
Tossed about you’re like a shit in the open
You set a course for winds of fortune, but
You hear the forum say

Carry on, you were always retarded
Carry on, nothing equals your spamming
Now your life's no longer useful
Surely hell waits for you

[slap happy drums]

kinda like poking a corpse.......oh well :poke:

[Sytubs]

kinda like poking a corpse.......oh well :poke:

I feel a need to express myself theough the music of Kansas this morning...

:deadhorse:

[slap happy drums]

we need a smilie w/ someone poking the dead horse

[zarazabas]

Hey Johnny, i've re-watched your videos and i've actually decided that i really like your drums. They truly do sound awesome, and i'm sure i could find many uses for the sounds you are capable of achieving. I think i would like to purchase a set of ELECTRIC DRUMS from you. What do you say? Ohhh...... wait...... sorry..... you've been banned. My bad!

[MPCman]

LOL I just noticed this topic.

Yes, I did listen to a few movies with my super best hi quality Tannoy System 800 studio monitor speakers. Still, the snare sounded not nice to me and I can imagine most drummers won't like it either.

The concept is interesting though, should be interesting to playback some electronical samples like handclaps with the addition of acoustic snares buzzing and stuff.

Too bad this product will fail and not because of the product itself.

[white requiem]

LOL I just noticed this topic.

Yes, I did listen to a few movies with my super best hi quality Tannoy System 800 studio monitor speakers. Still, the snare sounded not nice to me and I can imagine most drummers won't like it either.

The concept is interesting though, should be interesting to playback some electronical samples like handclaps with the addition of acoustic snares buzzing and stuff.

Too bad this product will fail and not because of the product itself.

Why'd you TTT this? Can someone get Dendy to lock this godforsaken thread so we don't give JN free publicity?

[SkiAz4Free]

baRRRRRRUMP!