10 reasons to buy electronics made in the USA only.

[chunkathalon]

There are 293 million people living in the United States. If each one would shift $20 a month in spending from foreign made products to American made products, that would create 5 million new jobs.

FACT!

[lagger]

can't find any ..

[Professor Tom]

There are 293 million people living in the United States. If each one would shift $20 a month in spending from foreign made products to American made products, that would create 5 million new jobs.

FACT!

Agreed, I buy British or American whenever I can and avoid Chinese whenever I can.

[Jon Hiller]

It's hard to find any electronics that are made in USA anymore.....

[nedezero]

It's hard to find any electronics that are made in USA anymore.....

There's a few....

Macintosh
KRELL
Sunfire
B&K

[Beckman]

Acccording to one website, Bose is made in the USA. I could not confirm this on their website. It did list Moog though.

[layla17]

Sunfire and KRELL make pretty good electronics. I try to buy American whenever I can.

[Son of HuHefner]

There are 293 million people living in the United States. If each one would shift $20 a month in spending from foreign made products to American made products, that would create 5 million new jobs.

FACT!

did you vote for Ronald Reagan ?

[DexGTR]

There's a few....

Macintosh



aren't they "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China"

[denvertrakker]

aren't they "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China"

I think he meant McIntosh the audio company, rather than Apple's Macintosh.

McIntosh Labs products are manufactured, as always, in Binghamton, NY, although they have been owned for quite a few years by Clarion of Japan...who has had the wisdom to leave McIntosh totally alone and do what they do.

[planteater]

There are 293 million people living in the United States. If each one would shift $20 a month in spending from foreign made products to American made products, that would create 5 million new jobs.

FACT!

I doubt that every person in the US spends $20 per month on consumer electronics. You also have to remember that there are 2 million prisoners and 73 million children who don't have much discretional income. It wouldn't be a 'switch' but more of a spending binge.

What are the other nine reasons for buying US?

[Beckman]

Acccording to one website, Bose is made in the USA. I could not confirm this on their website. It did list Moog though.

Nevermind. I looked on a box, made in Mexico. Which is better than made in china, I guess.

[DexGTR]

so they are made here.....where are the parts coming from?

some may be made here but the parts are still coming in from china or wherever.

[trey85stang]

you tell me where I can buy that new MIA dvd player and video game system.

[cherokeeok0817]

There are places to buy made in America products.

www.freedomsringmall.com is a good one.

[abrdrummer1]

Japan makes great quality products. Switching what you buy isnt the solution to unemployment. Merry Christmas!

[uzybear]

don't the chinese need jobs

how bout rather than "buy american" .......why don't we have buy "fair trade" and the like that actually pays people decent wage

i think we need more organizations setting standards for employee rights and wages and less isolationist "buy american" talk

however, at this point, i do try to support those companies paying employees a decent wage, and a lot of that is american made; we need more organizations like fair trade globally setting standards, and pressure on governments to enforce standards; so i guess in a way i don't really disagree so much; just with the isolationist talk which is just rather dumb in this increasingly global market

the race to the bottom is a horrible god-damned evil of the earth; we need a little community-thinking and consideration and demand our government reign in corporations and their massive power to kill small business and force folks to take whatever wage they're offering

pure laissez-faire capitalism doesn't work when enormous corporations have omnipotent power

the best way to help our standing in the eyes of the world is with community-thinking rather than just ME-thinking


so, well, actually "buy american" isn't such a bad idea maybe ;)

[uzybear]

Acccording to one website, Bose is made in the USA. I could not confirm this on their website. It did list Moog though.

it's to bad they make awful marketing-driven shite

[RKW]

There are 293 million people living in the United States. If each one would shift $20 a month in spending from foreign made products to American made products, that would create 5 million new jobs.

FACT!


So, per the thread tiltle, give us the ten reasons. :mad:

[Another Brick]

Bose 301 loudspeakers, purchased ~1991 - Made in Mexico

Bose over-the-ear headphones, purchased today - Made in China

[search now]

It's hard to find any electronics that are made in USA anymore.....

didja put your e-mail address and get the free strat??

[Jon Hiller]

I don't have quite enough referrals yet. I'm about halfway there. You have to get ten people to sign up and complete one offer. The strat offer doesn't seem to be as popular as the free iPod offers were, for some reason. I know a couple people who got 3 or 4 of those from different companies when they first came out. Maybe I should've just done that in retrospect, and sold the ipods for the money for the strat!

[search now]

I don't have quite enough referrals yet. I'm about halfway there. You have to get ten people to sign up and complete one offer. The strat offer doesn't seem to be as popular as the free iPod offers were, for some reason. I know a couple people who got 3 or 4 of those from different companies when they first came out. Maybe I should've just done that in retrospect, and sold the ipods for the money for the strat!

I dont want to be negative here ok? really, but If something sounds to good to be true... Man if all you had to do was get 10 people to give them their e-mail or whatever Id jump on that shit last week ,damn

[GCDEF]

The math doesn't work.

293,000,000 X $20 per month / $5,000,000 = $14,064 per year for salaries. That doesn't include any of the other costs that would be associated with the increased production and overhead of providing those jobs. Those numbers would be speculation, but it's safe to assume each of those jobs would pay considerably less than $10,000 per year.

It also assumes that all 293,000,000 people, which includes the very old, the very young, the unemployed and the sick could pony up the extra money, which a lot of people couldn't.

It also costs more to produce goods in America, so inflation and decreased demand would play a role. Sounds good, but it just doesn't work that way.

[Jon Hiller]

I dont want to be negative here ok? really, but If something sounds to good to be true... Man if all you had to do was get 10 people to give them their e-mail or whatever Id jump on that shit last week ,damn

It's not one of those too good to be true deals, but you do have to sign up and fulfill an offer, the same as the iPod deals. This same company does iPod deals and some other stuff and I know a guy who got an iPod and a laptop from them on two different occasions. I'll get there eventually.

[oldman2]

It's a world economy now. As much as I would like to buy Made in the USA it just can't be . We are now a service economy, with fewer perks and lower pay scales.
oldman2

[happynow]

:thu::thu::thu::thu::thu:

[snortin nortin]

The math doesn't work.

293,000,000 X $20 per month / $5,000,000 = $14,064 per year for salaries. That doesn't include any of the other costs that would be associated with the increased production and overhead of providing those jobs. Those numbers would be speculation, but it's safe to assume each of those jobs would pay considerably less than $10,000 per year.

It also assumes that all 293,000,000 people, which includes the very old, the very young, the unemployed and the sick could pony up the extra money, which a lot of people couldn't.

It also costs more to produce goods in America, so inflation and decreased demand would play a role. Sounds good, but it just doesn't work that way.
Yes it costs more to produce goods here in the USA. But having that attitude about it is why there is unemployment at all time highs not to mention the cost of oil both related directly to the economic boom in China. The key is to seek "USA made" when & if possible. Finding a reason not buy like "it won't help, because nobody else is" is not the answer.It all starts with a person you or I or somebody else and hopefully each of us brings another into the fold on this. The big corporations don't want any of us doing this or they would be advertising 'Buy USA" everywhere, what they want is cheap labor and high profits.Especially Wal-Mart they are the biggest abuser of the worlds cheap labor pool and the biggest enemy of the "American Worker".. Doing right by your fellow American all starts with someone, if no-one starts we only have ourselves to blame when we are reduced to living like a 3rd world nation..
10 reasons...
# 1. Jobs
# 2. Jobs
# 3. Jobs
# 4. Jobs
# 5. Jobs
# 6. Jobs
# 7. Jobs
# 8. Jobs
# 9. Jobs
# 10. Jobs

[snortin nortin]

It's a world economy now. As much as I would like to buy Made in the USA it just can't be . We are now a service economy, with fewer perks and lower pay scales.
oldman2Why because every politician has sold us with every free trade agreement that comes down the pike. Or because G.Bush said so ? Not every American is cut out for a high tech job and Mickey D's does not qualify as a livable income.We are the consumers, not the politicains and not Wal-Mart nor any other big Corporation, they rely on our $$$ to make a profit and when our $$ talks they will listen, but having a there's no helping this situation out attitude only brings us one more step torwards impoverishmnet in this country..

[hubberjub]

Chevrolet has moved their truck production plants to Canada while Toyota produces their trucks in Texas. Which is more "American" to you?

[RoboChrist]

Chevrolet has moved their truck production plants to Canada while Toyota produces their trucks in Texas. Which is more "American" to you?


True. Ford and GM have plants in Europe and their stuff is quite popular there. Japan has plants all over the world; Canada, U.S., Europe, the best one can do is find out who makes what in your country or city, then you support the industry that employs in your area.

[wordlinkz]

thanks for the tip..

[Philanderer]

I buy american beer.


And the guys are right, there aren't consumer electronics made in USA. Hifi stuff is out of reach for most of us.

I do buy Japanese where I can because of our good relations, quality product, and reasonable price.

[GCDEF]

Yes it costs more to produce goods here in the USA. But having that attitude about it is why there is unemployment at all time highs not to mention the cost of oil both related directly to the economic boom in China. The key is to seek "USA made" when & if possible. Finding a reason not buy like "it won't help, because nobody else is" is not the answer.It all starts with a person you or I or somebody else and hopefully each of us brings another into the fold on this. The big corporations don't want any of us doing this or they would be advertising 'Buy USA" everywhere, what they want is cheap labor and high profits.Especially Wal-Mart they are the biggest abuser of the worlds cheap labor pool and the biggest enemy of the "American Worker".. Doing right by your fellow American all starts with someone, if no-one starts we only have ourselves to blame when we are reduced to living like a 3rd world nation..
10 reasons...
# 1. Jobs
# 2. Jobs
# 3. Jobs
# 4. Jobs
# 5. Jobs
# 6. Jobs
# 7. Jobs
# 8. Jobs
# 9. Jobs
# 10. Jobs

I'd forgotten all about this thread and I guess you're no longer here. Anyway, my post had nothing to do with attitude and everything to do with the math didn't support the claim made in the first thread.

[in_rainbows]

I buy american beer.


And the guys are right, there aren't consumer electronics made in USA. Hifi stuff is out of reach for most of us.

I do buy Japanese where I can because of our good relations, quality product, and reasonable price.

Yeah, I definitely prefer Japaneses stuff as opposed to the stuff that comes out of China.

[nice keetee]

What electronics are made in the USA?

[nice keetee]

Heating pads by kaz? :lol:

[xaosbass]

Yes it costs more to produce goods here in the USA. But having that attitude about it is why there is unemployment at all time highs not to mention the cost of oil both related directly to the economic boom in China. The key is to seek "USA made" when & if possible. Finding a reason not buy like "it won't help, because nobody else is" is not the answer.It all starts with a person you or I or somebody else and hopefully each of us brings another into the fold on this. The big corporations don't want any of us doing this or they would be advertising 'Buy USA" everywhere, what they want is cheap labor and high profits.Especially Wal-Mart they are the biggest abuser of the worlds cheap labor pool and the biggest enemy of the "American Worker".. Doing right by your fellow American all starts with someone, if no-one starts we only have ourselves to blame when we are reduced to living like a 3rd world nation..
10 reasons...
# 1. Jobs
# 2. Jobs
# 3. Jobs
# 4. Jobs
# 5. Jobs
# 6. Jobs
# 7. Jobs
# 8. Jobs
# 9. Jobs
# 10. Jobs
Actually, I would like to buy more American electronics due to very good quality overall but they tend to be very pricey as well.:cry:

[Bubbalou]

American's got lazy and greedy
Japan shot right past them while they slept
Now no one here can afford the high priced American made products so they have been outsourced to China at a fraction of the cost.:rolleyes:

[audai]

thanks for th info

[Bubbalou]

Wifes Honda Accord was assembled in Ohio
Some of Fords stuff was/is made in Mexico (at least the 2001 Ford Focus hatchback was)

[stevenchenster]

Nevermind. I like it made in China for cheap,lol.

[axeg]

With the globalisation now its not at all possible. Nike use cheap labour of Asian countries to reduce their cost. So mate this is not at all possible in current scenario.

These are now USA brands but manufactured in Asian countries.

[The Real MC]

It's hard to find any electronics that are made in USA anymore.....

Stop shopping at Wal-Mart.

[Monkey Mouse]

Most of the audiophile esoteric stuff is made in the USA becuase overseas it is about mass manufacture and so so audio quality.

Does not mean this stuff is super expensive though - you can pick up a USA built, tube integrated amp for about $1,700 - the same as a middle of the road HT receiver. Sounds 10x better and makes you feel good inside.

[Jon Hiller]

Stop shopping at Wal-Mart.

Try again, I don't shop there.

[martinweng]

why not buy in china

[L6Sguy]

if everybody would just buy a toy motorcycle, they'd get a free douchebag guitar as a prize.

[Spitfire Mojo]

Guitar makes buying American much easier. This year:
Gibson LP Std
Fender Strat
Fulltone OCD
Budda Budwah
Avatar Cab

[henzy]

Although you have got really nice and patriotic thoughts, but are you sure that this is possible. I mean to say that if company is not making their products in America than how we could buy it.

For this government should have take the neccessary steps. They should realised what can be the status of this if they wont take major action.

[diceman1000]

There are 293 million people living in the United States. If each one would shift $20 a month in spending from foreign made products to American made products, that would create 5 million new jobs.

FACT!

95% of american made stuff is over priced and poorly built,FACT!...

vehicles

american(any of the big 3) most generaly start falling apart at 80,000-90,000 miles,a toyota,nissan,or honda will run forever...a harley davidson 883 sportster will run you $8000 minimum and be in the shop all of the time,a kawasaki vulcan 900 custom will cost you around $7000(depending on where you buy it) and will be in the shop for routine maintainence...

electronics

not enough made in america to even argue about,and the ones that are are rediculously overpriced...why would i pay $1200 for a mcintosh cd player with no features when i can buy a top of the line eclipse packed with features for half that?

just my personal thoughts...

Damon

[rockanomicon]

I buy American when I can, but sometimes it just doesnt make any sense. Ive taken certain steps, for instance I dont shop at Wal-Mart, try to get most my groceries at local independent groceries, or Costco (unlike most places they pay their employees a reasonable wage and provide quality health care coverage).
Last winter I was faced with the task of purchasing a new vehicle, after months of research and careful consideration, I purchased a Toyota. I used to be a Ford man, I looked at all three domestic companies. I couldnt find the type of SUV that I wanted, Ford and Chevy make aggressive station wagons, dressed up like SUV's. Their records when it comes to reliability and cost of ownership are horrible. I felt like I was left with no real option, because there wasnt a domestic manufacturer that offered the product that I was in the market to purchase.

I think the important thing is just making the effort. Next time you need fishing tackle or some home improvement gear pass on by WalMart and swing on into you locally owned hardware store or sporting goods shop. Sure these days its nearly impossible to buy %100 domestic, but you can try to keep your local business afloat, and keep your dollars in your local economy.

[planteater]

... I looked at all three domestic companies. I couldnt find the type of SUV that I wanted.....

Wow. If Detroit can't compete with Japanese SUV's they are finished.

[drumman8524]

People should buy Pintech electronics drum kits instead of roland, yamaha etc because all of their kits are made in the US and i personally think they are better quality...

http://www.rickiesdiscountelectronics.com/manufacturers/pintech-678/

[D Carroll]

People should buy Pintech electronics drum kits instead of roland, yamaha etc because all of their kits are made in the US and i personally think they are better quality...

http://www.rickiesdiscountelectronics.com/manufacturers/pintech-678/

Thats a lie, yamaha is the best, followed by roland.

[linthat22]

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/job.jpg

[mojart]

lets get real, asians ARE smarter :P

[kara7]

HI! You know I don't see any difference between the electronics made in China and USA.
:poke:

[Trace-P38]

poor Tony Romo, I hope he can make a full recovery and play again someday.

[SteinbergerHack]

don't the chinese need jobs

how bout rather than "buy american" .......why don't we have buy "fair trade" and the like that actually pays people decent wage

i think we need more organizations setting standards for employee rights and wages and less isolationist "buy american" talk

however, at this point, i do try to support those companies paying employees a decent wage, and a lot of that is american made; we need more organizations like fair trade globally setting standards, and pressure on governments to enforce standards; so i guess in a way i don't really disagree so much; just with the isolationist talk which is just rather dumb in this increasingly global market

the race to the bottom is a horrible god-damned evil of the earth; we need a little community-thinking and consideration and demand our government reign in corporations and their massive power to kill small business and force folks to take whatever wage they're offering

pure laissez-faire capitalism doesn't work when enormous corporations have omnipotent power

the best way to help our standing in the eyes of the world is with community-thinking rather than just ME-thinking


so, well, actually "buy american" isn't such a bad idea maybe ;)

"Fair Wage" proposals don't have the impact you might think they would.

When you are in a nation like China or India, the prevailing wages are so low to begin with that you can pay people double what they were making before, and it will still be a very small fraction of a union wage in the US, Canada, or Western Europe. India, for example, has a median annual income of around $7K. If you set up a factory in a rural area and started to pay people $20/hour, you would upset the economic balance in the area, and actually do more harm than good. [Why? Because you would only be employing a fraction of the population in the area, but it would cause heavy and immediate inflation, which would radically impact the lifestyle of everyone NOT working in your factory.]

What happens eventually, though, is that as capital gets moved into a nation based on their low cost of labor, they begin to grow their own internal economy. The factories that are built to supply goods to the US, Canada, Europe, begin to make products for internal consumption. Also, as the feeder industries and service industries begin to grow around the factories, the overall wages will slowly grow, until they are eventually no longer so far below the rest of the world. Of course, by that time they have a well-functioning internal economy.

While I would agree that we ned to set human rights standards that determine which countries we are willing to trade with, I disagree that the "race to the bottom" is really as bad as you say it is. It is merely the first step in making use of the workers that are sitting idle elsewhere in the world, and it is moving capital into their nations to help get their economy going - which will in turn raise their overall standard of living.

Capitalism works.:thu:

[SteinbergerHack]

Why because every politician has sold us with every free trade agreement that comes down the pike. Or because G.Bush said so ? Not every American is cut out for a high tech job and Mickey D's does not qualify as a livable income.We are the consumers, not the politicains and not Wal-Mart nor any other big Corporation, they rely on our $$$ to make a profit and when our $$ talks they will listen, but having a there's no helping this situation out attitude only brings us one more step torwards impoverishmnet in this country..

OK, so have you started your manufacturing company yet?

Seriously, if you want it out of the hands of the big multi-national corps, the way to do it is to encourage entrepeneurialism, and get more people to open their own small manufacturing firms. This is what the Chinese and Indians are doing, and it is what OUR nation did in the early 20th century.

[SteinbergerHack]

electronics

not enough made in america to even argue about,and the ones that are are rediculously overpriced...why would i pay $1200 for a mcintosh cd player with no features when i can buy a top of the line eclipse packed with features for half that?

Well, the sound quality would be a good place to start. That said, if you're listening to MP3s from an iPod and using cheap Bose speakers in a poorly set up room, you'll never hear the difference.

If you want REALLY good audio performance, you won't get it from China. If, OTOH, you want something that's 95% as good for 25% of the price, it's coming across the Pacific.

[Trace-P38]

poor Tony Romo, I hope he can make a full recovery and play again someday.
sorry! i thought i was someone else. won't happen again.

[stevenchenster]

It's a world economy now. As much as I would like to buy Made in the USA it just can't be . We are now a service economy, with fewer perks and lower pay scales.
oldman2
Yes, I agree with you.

[peteyforto]

http://www.outlawaudio.com/

[nice keetee]

http://www.outlawaudio.com/

Where is this gear made?

[peteyforto]

Where is this gear made?

The power amps are made in USA. The preamp processors are made in Malaysia. All designed in the USA though.

[VINNIEM@C]

and what about the rest of the world... hmmm if we stopped handing countries like the usa who has been in defficit since god knows when ,who willy nilly spends billions on a possiblie global sclae in war efforts, treaties and trade agrements and called on their international debpt( a stupid massive amount)welll....



i can think of a few other ways "we" could create some jobs and stabilize our own ecconomy

sorry but the wheels go round and each section needs to be greased

[RashestHippo]

Electronics made in USA?... Is there such a thing anymore

[VINNIEM@C]

lol, now now :lol:

[irishstu]

There are places to buy made in America products.

www.freedomsringmall.com is a good one.

Anyone else see the irony in the main picture used on this site?

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5036/freedomsring001014.jpg

Statue of Liberty - Made in France

[indoshowroom]

American's got lazy and greedy
Japan shot right past them while they slept
Now no one here can afford the high priced American made products so they have been outsourced to China at a fraction of the cost.:rolleyes:

Good point.. in this situation price is the king!

[Warhorse]

yes

[jonshsnlee]

The power amps are made in USA. The preamp processors are made in Malaysia. All designed in the USA though.

By saying this what do you want to convey. I think you want to say that there are certain things like preamp processors are not made in USA.

[nice keetee]

made in usa means made in usa