Tele spankin' anyone?

[Citizen Cain]

Give a listen to a friend of mine from another forum kickin' ass and takin' names.

EDIT: The original file was pulled due to the owner's request. Here's another to replace it.

http://pages.tca.net/scott_f/Drop-D-Boogie.mp3

EDIT2: Well, the original file is still there, so I'm gonna post this link. It may break at any time, give a listen while you can. It's worth it.

http://pages.tca.net/scott_f/Tele-Spankin.mp3

Here's the equipment list for those who mind such things :p

Fender American Nashville B-Bender Telecaster
Pickup used - Seymour Duncan APTL-3JD (Jerry Donahue Model)
Amplification - Peavey Classic 50/410
Effects - BOSS ME-33 (for delay), Marshall Compressor

Some day, I will be able to play the guitar.

[casper gomez]

holy shit cc. that was incredible! :eek: i don't think my fingers could move that quick for that long. jeez. that is probably the coolest thing i ever heard on this forum.

well, my day (like many others i bet) has started on a humbling note. :D

how are ya anyway cc?

[Citizen Cain]

Yeah, this guy is pretty amazing. I'll post a link to another song he played on, sounds like Larry Carlton. This guy is good.

I'm OK, casp, thanks for asking. Busier than I'd like to be at work. I think your signature about sums up the situation.

[Citizen Cain]

Here's another bit by this guy. He's scary good.

http://pages.tca.net/scott_f/kelley.mp3

Guitar - Samick Royale (RL-3 AM) This guitar is a semi hollow-body thinline with tone chambers instead of the standard hollow-body/block of wood design
Pickups - Seymour Duncan APH-1 (neck), SH-11 (Bridge)
Amp - Peavey Classic 50/410 (Clean channel used for this track)
Effects - Danelectro Surf & Turf Compressor, Ibanez TS-9, BOSS ME-33 for delay
For recording, I used a Shure SM-57 on the lower left speaker. I set the mic about 2" away from the grill cloth and located it about halfway between the cone and the edge of the speaker.

[casper gomez]

thanks for posting these tunes cc. if you talk to the guy, tell him he has a new biggest fan. i love the vocals too. that guy needs to be making records for the masses.

[papejazzer]

Hey those tunes were great. Man that Dude has some fast fingers. I think my speakers melted.:D Does He come to HC?
Great voice kind of like Gerry Rafferty (sp?). Great playing.

More More More!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks:cool:

[SomeGuyNamedRob]

Damn. I doubt I could get this fast with varispeed tricks.

[Wayrockin1]

Wow! :eek: This guy's country-shred chops are up there with giants like Brent Mason! Absolutely phenomenal!

On the second tune I was more impressed with the fact that he can get a tone like that out of a Samick and other fairly low-cost gear than with the actual notes he played. Good sound. Gives hope to us poor guys!

The vocalist WAS great! Was that the guitarist doing the singing? If it was, this guy's an all-around monster!

Thanks, CC! I'd love to hear more from this guy!

[Jack E Martling]

Originally posted by Citizen Cain
Give a listen to a friend of mine from another forum kickin' ass and takin' names.


Damn, I guess we don't need to wonder what this guy does all day long. Is he a pro player? Nashville guy?

[casper gomez]

bump.

i can't believe more people have not seen this thread.

[Citizen Cain]

Sorry, the guy who recorded this requested that the file be pulled. Believe it or not, he wasn't satisfied with that cut. He felt it lacked any feeling. Plus, his band didn't want it published because it was a first mix, not "polished" yet.

Man, I'm in line for their CD if that's not a keeper track! Actually, I'm in line anyway :D

[casper gomez]

Originally posted by Citizen Cain
Sorry, the guy who recorded this requested that the file be pulled. Believe it or not, he wasn't satisfied with that cut. He felt it lacked any feeling. Plus, his band didn't want it published because it was a first mix, not "polished" yet.

Man, I'm in line for their CD if that's not a keeper track! Actually, I'm in line anyway :D

bummer.:( well, tell the guy i am sold on what he's doing anyway.

[dr. barlo]

Such kind of people should be banned to touch a six string! :mad: I am depressed :D. Where is the satan I wanna sell my soul :D.

[Citizen Cain]

I posted a link to the original file again. Listen while you can, I don't know how long it will be at the site.

The guy did not do the singing on "Kelley", but I agree, awesome voice.

I don't know what he does for a living, he's a forum buddy, never met him in real life or discussed such things online.

A CD is due out eventually, I will have a copy.

[Rob Quail]

Very cool playing; what is his handle and where does he lurk? TDPRI, by any chance??

[Jim Soloway]

Outstanding. I love that kind of playing and he does it with the best of them. my wife calls if cowshred.

[LPC2001]

chops to hell, i will now go and throw my tele in the trash

[myles loud]

hey cc!
great post, thnx for the turn on, he can play man!!!!! myles loud

[Citizen Cain]

He's a very modest guy and is overwhelmed by the response and sends his heartfelt thanks.

He hangs out at the Les Paul Forum and the Seymour Duncan Forum, his name is Butch Snyder.

Thanks for giving a listen, he's a great guy and deserves it.

[Butch Snyder]

by the responces I have received from the various forums that have heard those couple of tunes.

I really appreciate the kind words.

-Butch

[casper gomez]

Originally posted by Butch Snyder
by the responces I have received from the various forums that have heard those couple of tunes.

I really appreciate the kind words.

-Butch

well, lemme be the first to tell ya from the vets forum.... you got the chops brother. we have some monster players here too. you should check in when you can and share some of your tunes. or get involved in some of the cyberjams that the forumites put together.

nice to meet ya.

[dr. barlo]

Originally posted by Butch Snyder
by the responces I have received from the various forums that have heard those couple of tunes.

I really appreciate the kind words.

-Butch

YOu deserve it man, very cool indeed.

Hope that you start to hang around here as well.

[Butch Snyder]

Originally posted by kuntikin


YOu deserve it man, very cool indeed.

Hope that you start to hang around here as well.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

-Butch

[SKEAMO]

some fantastic playing, butch. i sure hope we "see" more of you around here.

:cool:

[Fron Bolster]

Originally posted by Butch Snyder
by the responces I have received from the various forums that have heard those couple of tunes.

I really appreciate the kind words.

-Butch

This stuff really is very good. I'm quite impressed, to be honest. I didn't expect it to be so good.

[Butch Snyder]

Originally posted by Fron Bolster


I didn't expect it to be so good.

Uhh, thanks, I think...

[rosskoss]

Man, your tone is near perfect!!! I absolutely love it. You don't need to change your pups! ;)

Don't let those guys at the SD forum convince you otherwise. ;)

[Butch Snyder]

Well, I want something a bit different. Kind of like Brad Paisley's rawer tone mixed with Brent's sparkle and Jerry Donahue's smoothness. I think I achieved it with the Nocaster Clean.

[rosskoss]

Originally posted by Butch Snyder
Well, I want something a bit different. Kind of like Brad Paisley's rawer tone mixed with Brent's sparkle and Jerry Donahue's smoothness. I think I achieved it with the Nocaster Clean.

What is your present gear setup(amp and FX pedals)?

Just curious, because thats one of the tones I really like - Sweet Tele clean with some bite and a hint of grind and lower string growl.....if that makes any sense :confused:

[bernardo gui]

"Tell me who's the bigger fool".

1. Production...............Damn Good.
2. Harmonic structure................very different, but accesable.
3. Guitar tone................................EXCELLENT !
4. Vocals...........................................S PLENDID !


I can hear Donald Fagan singing this song.
It sounds like a lost cut off an "early" Steely Dan recording.

The guy who did this is VERY talented....AND versatile.
This cat is a REAL musician.
EASILY one of the best pieces of music on this forum....YET !



Samick guitar.............?.........................inter esting.

[Butch Snyder]

Here's my setup. I use this for about everything. I just change guitars.

http://www.lilypix.com/photos/data/bsnyderrl3/full_118_p3915.jpg

[rosskoss]

Thanks! I find that very helpful indeed

Being in college, cash is hard to come by :(

I want to get my first tube amp and I've been doing some research. I've narrowed it down to the Peavey Classic and the Reverend Hellhound and I'll probably wind up getting the Peavey.

[NervePoet]

Extraordinary work, Butch! Welcome!

[Butch Snyder]

Thanks very much:cool:

[Ian@resound-uk]

:D nice http://acapella.harmony-central.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[Citizen Cain]

Cool to see you comin' back, Butch. Nice chart, how'd you make that? I see you ended up with a 1x15 extension cab, you like the C50 with the 1x15 combo? I've heard great stuff from the old Blues Classics like that.

[uv7lng]

Sheesh lots to download tonight!

U
v

[Butch Snyder]

Originally posted by Citizen Cain
Cool to see you comin' back, Butch. Nice chart, how'd you make that? I see you ended up with a 1x15 extension cab, you like the C50 with the 1x15 combo? I've heard great stuff from the old Blues Classics like that.

For playing Blues, Rock and Pop; maybe some Jazz, the C 50/410 is great with the E115. But, when I play Country, I have found that the E115 has a slower response due to the 15" speaker. The 4x10 cabinet is much quicker. I have found that the 15" speaker can't keep up with me.:cool:

[Citizen Cain]

Originally posted by Butch Snyder


For playing Blues, Rock and Pop; maybe some Jazz, the C 50/410 is great with the E115. But, when I play Country, I have found that the E115 has a slower response due to the 15" speaker. The 4x10 cabinet is much quicker. I have found that the 15" speaker can't keep up with me.:cool:

Well, that's not surprising :)

I'll bet the combo of 10" and 15" speakers makes a nice full-bodied sound.

[Butch Snyder]

It's very full. It reminds me of a bunch of 12" speakers. But bigger sounding. The 15's sound great. They just have a slower response. Yeah, I know, you can do the SRV thing all day. That's not what I do though.

[captain_rusty]

What can I say??!! This is just fantastic!!:D

I LOVE IT I LOVE IT Congratulations, Butch - brilliant stuff!
The tone on that "Drop-D boogie" - I'd KILL for tone like that :D

When's the album going to be released?

[Butch Snyder]

Hey thanks captain_rusty.

I appreciate that. I don't have anything comging out right now. I only have those two tunes that are mine.

[captain_rusty]

^

Don't miss it, guys - you just don't get this opportunity every day...:)

[uv7lng]

Great stuff!

U
v

[theManfromAlabam]

DAMM!! Butch you the Man!!, I can't beleive thats a Classic 50/410
I was planning on buying a Fender Custom Vibrolux Reverb Today, but after hearing you play maybe I should just practice a lot more, I already have the 50/410 but I was looking for a better amp for my Tele, now I think I just SUCK!!

I want a CD from you Butch

[Cheesey]

Butch , you could be Faith Hills band , imagine that :eek:
Who would you say are your influences?
There was a guy I remember seeing , reminded me of you.
He used 2 Webb amps , ( the kind that steel players use) , he was always using the volume pedal. He had the steel bends combined with the chicken picken just like you.

Is the b bender an essential ingredient to your sound, steel type bends?
Also the compressor must be important .
Awesome playing!
Best of luck .
Cheesey

[Butch Snyder]

theManfromAlabam: Yeah, that was my Classic 50/410. I'm selling it though because I would rather have 2 12" speakers.

Cheesey:Butch , you could be Faith Hills band , imagine that
Who would you say are your influences?
There was a guy I remember seeing , reminded me of you.
He used 2 Webb amps , ( the kind that steel players use) , he was always using the volume pedal. He had the steel bends combined with the chicken picken just like you.

Is the b bender an essential ingredient to your sound, steel type bends?
Also the compressor must be important .
Awesome playing!
Best of luck .
Cheesey

Thanks for the compliments! Albert Lee is the man who first drew me to the Telecaster and that style of playing. I would also have to site Danny Gatton, Brent Mason, Larry Carlton, and Jerry Donahue as influences as well.

Yes, I use the B-bender quite a bit. I have a Marshall ED-1 compressor that is never turned off.

Cheers,

[skynyrd]

Butch-- ever heard of a guy by the name of Keith Urban? Tele Spankin' reminds me of a song of his called Rollercoaster... Great country playing.

[Butch Snyder]

I know of Keith Urban. He gets some pretty good tones with his EMG's. I never have heard "Rollercoaster". I'll have to check it out.

Thanks,

[metalcore]

Butch you are an amazing player. I really like this stuff.

[Jeff Miller]

Hi everyone,
My name is Jeff Miller. I am a guitarist from the Cincy area. I have never posted in this forum before, but certain matters have been brought to my attention and I have been forced to take appropriate action.

Could someone here please verify for me that the song listed below is the same song that was listed earlier in this thread as the song "Tele-Spankin" by a Mr. Butch Snyder?

http://w3.iac.net/~jmiller/Tele-Spankin[1].mp3

Thanks so much!

Jeff

[Butch Snyder]

Jeff and all here,

This has come to my attention a little too late because I don't listen to my own MP3's. I pulled the "Tele-Spankin" link about a year ago after I found that it was not me playing. I repeat, it is not my song nor is it me playing it. It is Jeff Miller. I didn't realize this until someone sent me a copy of it at my own request. A former bandmate had some MP3's of mine that were about average. I sent him the one I called "Tele-Spankin", which is a very average tune. This person took Jeff's tune and renamed it to be mine. He then posted it on an FTP site and sent me the link so I could post it. I did and everyone went crazy. I received e-mails over the foloowing weeks about it. I thought, "Well, it's really not that great." Then someone sent me a copy of it. I listened and was very surprised to find that it in fact was not my song. It was very good; but not me...

I pulled the link and had the file deleted. I had hoped that would be the end of it. Well, apparently it isn't. Jeff, I honestly did not take your song and misrepresent myself. I pulled the link.

I want to offer a public apology for this to Jeff and everybody else who thought that the song was indeed me. I know this is very embarassing for Jeff. It's very embarassing for me as well. I hope everyone, especialy Jeff can accept my apology for this matter.

Butch Snyder

[Danocoustic]

WHOEVER that is---I'm not worthy to unsnap the latches on your guitar case. That was fabulous.

[Butch Snyder]

I'll just bear all right now and be totally honest with you all...

When the guys at the Seymour Duncan Forum decide to do a forum member CD, they requested songs from me. I didn't have anything; nor did I ever have a way to record anything. I thought long and hard about it. They really were bugging me for something to put on the CD. I couldn't give them anything. The CD came out without me on it. The CD received rave reviews from all the forum members. I was very disappointed and felt very dejected. I was surfing around Audio galaxy; back when you could get files from them for free. I came upon your tune. It was labeled as "Brent Mason". It had absolutely no labeling on it whatsoever that indicated it was Jeff Miller. I listened to it and thought, "This is pretty good." I thought it was Brent Mason from some Nashville clip or something. I had no idea any player of this caliber existed in the Cincy area. If I had, I would have done what I could to meet and learn from this truly great player. I just thought it was Brent Mason. I sent the MP3 in and deemed it as my own. I wanted to show everyone on the Duncan forum that I could indeed play. I even gave a gear list. I do actually use that particular equipment. I thought only a couple of people listened to it. I really had no idea that it would be all over the Internet. After I had received all kinds of e-mails about how great it was, I got caught up in the hoopla; knowing fully that it wasn't me and that I needed to pull the link and come clean. I honestly didn't mean to cause any trouble. I also didn't mean to hurt you at all. When someone came forward and said it was "Jeff Miller", I did a Google search for that name. This is all I came up with.

http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Jeff_Miller_Band/

If you listen to this guy's clips, you'll find that he's basically a folk guitarist who is very far from your style. That's who I thought "Jeff Miller" was. I honestly thought that he was trying to lay claim to Jeff Miller's song. I had finally had enough. I felt really stupid and very badly for having done this. I came to a realization. I am a professional engineer. I am a decent Telecaster picker. I have won several contests. I have a beautiful, loving wife and three fantastic children. Why did I do this!?! I kick myself everyday for my deceit of all who thought it was me. I am not a bad person. I made a really awful mistake that I could not stop fast enough.

I don't know what else to say.... I can't say I'm sorry enough. I just want to play music and do so by my own merits. In coming totally clean about this, I am humbly asking your forgiveness for my mistake...Please....

Regards,

Butch Snyder

[Timezarrow]

I hope this is enlightening for anyone else who might be tempted to get some internet cred using someone else's recording.

I can imagine how this must weigh on Butch, but my sympathy is mitigated by the fact that it was entirely self-inflicted, and he only came clean when pretty much backed into a corner (I had questions about the chronology of the whole thing based on his previous explanations). Still, it's a good thing to finally tell the truth and try to put it behind you.

Hopefully, the real artist will benefit from whatever exposure this has generated. Jeff Miller, are you the Jeff Miller who did the recording? (Assuming you've been able to hear it - I haven't even heard it and don't know if any of the links are working - I'm at work.)

If the links aren't up, someone should put one up, giving credit to the real player. Sounds like it would be worth hearing.

[Butch Snyder]

Go here and you can see and hear Jeff...

http://w3.iac.net/~jmiller/

[gtrdave]

So now we can give credit where it's due...

Jeff, excellent playing! I've had this clip on my computer for over a year and I go back to it once in a while for listening enjoyment.
You've got that same over-the-top attitude in your playing as Brad Paisley.

Butch, you're a good guy for coming clean with this. The question now is; what do YOU sound like?

:)

[daddymack]

Unfortuantely, I see it took Jeff Miller a year to track down this posting...by the way, TZA, the link is active... I pulled this down last nigth (actually around 2AM...damned insomnia!)...it took about 9 minutes to load on my dial up, your mileage may vary...

but this is some absolutely impressive chicken pickin'!!!!

:eek: this kind of reminded me of being blown away at the Anaheim NAMM show in 1995 when Albert Lee was demoing for MusicMan (when his sig ax came out)...two doors down from the booth I was demoing at...got to listen and watch him picking all day...:cool:

Jeff Miller, who ever you are...time to quit the day job and head for Nashville...:D

As For Butch Snyder...interestin that your initials equate to your activities, and sad to think that you allowed this fallacious charade to be perpetuated for a year, and you did not come clean until somehow Jeff traced you here. For Shame...plagiarism is the ultimate artistic crime...

[Timezarrow]

From the articles I saw on his website, it looks like Jeff has gotten some attention for his work, though the Guitar Player (I think) articles were from the early nineties. Looked like he was on the verge of something back then.

DM, who were you demoing for?

[daddymack]

Originally posted by Timezarrow

DM, who were you demoing for?

A well known speaker manufacturer whom I left on rather negative terms, so I will not say who they are except that they have been around quite a while...they were building a line of guitar cabs under Dan Armstrong's name. I met Dan at the factory one day when I was on a break ( I was actually the materiel supervisor, but they let me in the cabinet/amp test room because I was an axeslinger) and he insisted I A/B his cab against my '64 Vibrolux..well his cabs didn't quite compare (The Stones were endorsing them on their tour at the time, and I had the displeasure of dealing with all the problems they had in Japan...), but he got the owners to put me in the booth with another player, we alternated...so I had plenty of time to wander over and check out the other guys...and Albert was definitely the ear catching player of the day...among dozens of great players.

Sadly, Dan came to one of our rehearsals (our bassist at the time owned an Armstrong Bass Serial # 002!) about a year ago and he was not faring well...but we had a nice talk about the old days...we were both from the same area in New York as well...

[Jeff Miller]

Hi all,
I am the Jeff Miller that is the original artist of the "Tele-Spankin" song (which was really called "Rush Hour"). I recorded that back in 1999. Anyways, I wanted to just post my side of what happened and how this all came about from beginning to end. I wasn't going to bother with it, but I believe everyone needs to know the whole story here. I want to also mention that everything I'm about to type it 100% truth as it has unfolded on my side. It is not my intention to make things any worse for Butch than they already are or blow this out of proportion in any way, but I feel that it is necessary for everyone to hear both sides of this.

This all began @ the Guitar Diner forum. Someone posted a link in the Guitar Diner forum of a sound clip I did for FatSound Guitars back in 2002. The clip was of my old song "Rush Hour" but with new solos I re-cut using my new Dr. Z Maz 18. This clip has been on the FatSound Guitars web site for over a year now. After the link was posted in the GD forum, a Les Paul Forum member replied to the thread stating that the song on the FatSound Guitars site was a rip-off of a song that a Butch Snyder had recorded called "Tele-Spankin". He mentioned the song was posted quite a while back on the LPF. After this happened, the person that posted the link from FatSound's site emailed Stu Carter (owner of FatSound Guitars) and notified him of the possibility that I ripped off Butch Snyder's song and there was even a chance the clip wasn't of a Dr. Z Maz 18 amp at all.

This is where I get involved... Stu Carter contacted me and wanted to know if I knew a person by the name of Butch Snyder. I told him I didn't know of Butch at all. I asked him why he wanted to know. Stu informed me a person by the name of Butch Snyder had emailed him and said the clip that was on FatSound
Guitar's web site was not of me (Jeff Miller), but was of him and the amp wasn't even a Maz 18 but was really a Peavey Classic 50! Butch even went as far as sending a second email to FatSound Guitars stating he wanted to contact this Jeff Miller guy to find out what the problem was. As you can imagine, I
am totally shocked by this information.

I believe at this point Butch is thinking the song on FatSound's site was the same exact 1999 version of the song he has been using and didn't know I had re-cut the solos with the Maz before FatSound Guitars posted it.

After Butch sent FatSound Guitars the first email stating I had ripped him off, they pulled my song off of their website for fear that they were misrepresenting an amplifier. I had to then prove to them that the song I recorded was in fact me and the amp was really the Maz 18. This really stressed me out and I lost plenty of sleep over it to say the least. FatSound Guitars also instructed Butch to go to my web site and double-check the song in question to be sure it was actually his Tele-Spankin song I had listed there. This is where Butch finds out about me. Butch vists my web site and finds out that I am in fact the guy that played the sound clip on FatSound's site because the song is different than his version. He also finds out I'm the guy playing his Tele-Spankin tune.

At this time I also began my own search to find out what has been going on in the forums regarding my song. I was saddened to find that my song was being misrepresented across at least three different forums (SD, LPF & HC) and had possibly even been submitted for a Seymour Duncan compilation CD. I began to turn up the heat on Mr. Snyder at this point. I posted in some of the forum threads that my song appeared in and it didn't take too long to all shake out.

Butch contacted me and told me that his ex-bandmate/webmaster had put his name on my song and that he didn't listen to his own MP3's and it was all purely a mistake. I knew that story probably wasn't correct because it just didn't
match all of his replies in all of the forums over the past year or so. I believed he had listened to the MP3 and that he had done this intentionally. I basically demanded that he set the record straight with 100% truth in all of the forums that my song was being misrepresented in. He has now done so, or at least pretty close.

I hope you all understand my side of the story and why I felt compelled to take action on this. Can you imagine how you would feel if you were to put in a Seymour Duncan comilation CD in your stereo and hear a song that was yours but labeled as being performed by someone else? I am not a paid professional
player and I have worked hard all my life to try and get somewhere in this music business. And then this happens...

Butch has put me through a lot of trouble in doing such a thing. I'm glad he has tried to correct it. I will now try my best to forgive his actions and go on with my life.

Thanks very much everyone, and take care!

Jeff Miller

[Timezarrow]

Thanks, Jeff, for giving us a better picture of what happened. I can see some of this in Butch's post, but I think now we can see some of the actual trouble this caused.

Somehow I'm reminded of the Pete Rose story unfolding now, except Butch has said he's sorry, and I think he feels that way.

But it seems to me he could have saved you a lot of trouble by backing off as soon as he thought the matter had come to the composer's attention. He didn't want to face up to it, and it looks like he fantasized that someone else was trying to steal the recording because he pulled up the wrong website. At least that's what he says. Who knows now if that's the whole extent of it. If I read Jeff's post aright, there's still some spinning going on in Butch's mind.

I don't really want to pile on the guy, but there's this:
"This is where I get involved... Stu Carter contacted me and wanted to know if I knew a person by the name of Butch Snyder. I told him I didn't know of Butch at all. I asked him why he wanted to know. Stu informed me a person by the name of Butch Snyder had emailed him and said the clip that was on FatSound
Guitar's web site was not of me (Jeff Miller), but was of him and the amp wasn't even a Maz 18 but was really a Peavey Classic 50! Butch even went as far as sending a second email to FatSound Guitars stating he wanted to contact this Jeff Miller guy to find out what the problem was. As you can imagine, I
am totally shocked by this information. " - Jeff Miller

Butch seems to be actively trying to brazen it out in the hope that his opposition is as phony as he is (I guess). I can just imagine how I would feel having my credibility destroyed for a year or more because somebody thought he could get away with stealing one of my songs because he chose to believe I could not possibly have written it.

This speaks to getting your stuff copyrighted, your good recordings, with the SR. I wonder how much more trouble this would have been for Jeff if he hadn't modified the original recording? Would there still be a debate as to authorship?

:confused:

[JOLLY]

Butch Snyder is a FRAUD!!!

http://www.seymourduncan.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=3;action=display;num=1073705476

http://www.seymourduncan.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=3;action=display;num=1073657743

http://www.seymourduncan.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=3;action=display;num=1073585654

http://www.seymourduncan.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=3;action=display;num=1073768611

[fischman]

If I were Butch, I'd move, change my name and never post on a music board again.

I just wonder who else he has decieved, not just on these boards but in his personal life as well.

Unfreakinbelievable.

[wooderson]

After readin all this, I sure wish the links to "Tele-Spankin"/"Rush Hour" still worked. I sure would like to hear that.

[daddysguitar]

Originally posted by wooderson
After readin all this, I sure wish the links to "Tele-Spankin"/"Rush Hour" still worked. I sure would like to hear that.

In case you missed it, here's the link to Jeff Miller's site, where he has a lot of clips up, but not "Rush Hour." However, just listen to "Six String Pileup" and you'll see what the fuss about Jeff's playing is, if you haven't already! :cool:

http://w3.iac.net/~jmiller

[Jeff Miller]

Originally posted by wooderson
After readin all this, I sure wish the links to "Tele-Spankin"/"Rush Hour" still worked. I sure would like to hear that.

Howdy!
I have re-posted "Rush Hour" back up on my site now. If you go to my audio clips page, you'll see it listed as "Rush Hour (old version of Six String Pileup)".

Thanks so much for the interest!

Take care,
Jeff

[Jeff Miller]

Originally posted by daddysguitar


In case you missed it, here's the link to Jeff Miller's site, where he has a lot of clips up, but not "Rush Hour." However, just listen to "Six String Pileup" and you'll see what the fuss about Jeff's playing is, if you haven't already! :cool:

http://w3.iac.net/~jmiller

Thank you very much for the kind comments! I really appreciate that a lot!:)

Take care,
Jeff

[daddysguitar]

Originally posted by Jeff Miller


Howdy!
I have re-posted "Rush Hour" back up on my site now. If you go to my audio clips page, you'll see it listed as "Rush Hour (old version of Six String Pileup)".

Thanks so much for the interest!

Take care,
Jeff

That's fantastic, Jeff! I recognized "Six String Pileup," and picked it on purpose, not wanting to get into speculations, etc., and it's so cool that you just popped up and explained it! :cool:
Glad to see you're not only on top of it all, but have your attitude intact after all this! Great tunage, man! :D

[Jeff Miller]

Originally posted by daddysguitar


That's fantastic, Jeff! I recognized "Six String Pileup," and picked it on purpose, not wanting to get into speculations, etc., and it's so cool that you just popped up and explained it! :cool:
Glad to see you're not only on top of it all, but have your attitude intact after all this! Great tunage, man! :D

Thanks again and I sure appreciate your support! I've finally gotten everything cleared up with this song theft ordeal I'm pretty sure.

The old 1999 version of Rush Hour was recorded with a stock Fender B-bender Tele through either my POD or my Egnater (I forget which one it was) but I'm thinking it was my Egnater.

The new version which is now called Six String Pileup was recorded with a Warmoth Tele I put together and the amp was a Dr. Z Maz 18 212 I bought over @ Fat Sound Guitars.

The reason for the two different names is because I never really intended for the old version of Rush Hour to get out (much less be renamed by someone else), but somehow it did. I renamed the new version to "Six String Pileup" before I posted on my web site. I liked the new name better and I thought it suited my playing LOL....

Anyways, now that I found out that the old version has been out on the net for over a year, I figured I'd be a good idea to put it up on my site so I can at least try to make it known who really did it. I guess the artist and song name has been mislabeled to players ranging from Butch Snyder to Brent Mason. I have since talked with Brent and I know he didn't put his name on it.:p Since he's God on the Tele, I don't think he'd need to do that anyways.:D

The other party however did intentionally put their name on it thinking it was probably a song by Brent and not knowing it was really me. What a mess this has been... hehe...

Oh well, sometimes you gotta laugh and move on. It's strange how things like this can happen. I'm just glad I finally caught it.

Take care,
Jeff

[daddysguitar]

Hey, when I heard "Six String Pileup," I thought "the Phoenix Rises!" Perfect way of rolling with the punches and coming out ahead, Jeff!

[wooderson]

Good god Jeff... that is amazing.

[Timezarrow]

Jeff, that's definitely some fine work. What are you doing lately? I saw some old magazine articles on your site, looking like you were drawing some attention.

Someone said earlier in this thread you should quit your day job, pack up and move to Nashville. That might not be a bad idea, since you sound like you could be a session guy, if nothing else. Depends on what you want to do though.

:cool:

[Jeff Miller]

Originally posted by Timezarrow
Jeff, that's definitely some fine work. What are you doing lately? I saw some old magazine articles on your site, looking like you were drawing some attention.

Someone said earlier in this thread you should quit your day job, pack up and move to Nashville. That might not be a bad idea, since you sound like you could be a session guy, if nothing else. Depends on what you want to do though.

:cool:

Hi!

Thanks a lot! I'm glad you like what I'm doing.:) Right now I'm just trying to finish my CD. I don't have much else going on other than that at the moment. Yeah, I thought I was really going places when I appreared in Guitar Player and Guitar World, but nothing ever came of it. I got a lot of mail from around the world (which I enjoyed), but nothing else.

It would be fun to move to Nashville and give sessions a try, but there are so many great players there (and everywhere) the chances of making anything of it are probably slim at best. I'm trying to get on a somewhat pro level, but I don't really have to do sessions to be happy. I wouldn't mind doing a tour or something. I'm open to anything! Well... Almost anything LOL!

Thanks again!

Take care,
Jeff

[Jeff Miller]

Hi All,
Just wanted to let everybody know I finally finished my CD and it is shipping in May! There are audio samples on my web page if anyone is interested.

http://w3.iac.net/~jmiller/audio.htm

Thanks a bunch!
Jeff Miller

[fischman]

Originally posted by Jeff Miller
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everybody know I finally finished my CD and it is shipping in May! There are audio samples on my web page if anyone is interested.

http://w3.iac.net/~jmiller/audio.htm

Thanks a bunch!
Jeff Miller

Do you still gig? I am not sure if I have seen you play being you are on the other side of town.

[Jeff Miller]

Originally posted by fischman


Do you still gig? I am not sure if I have seen you play being you are on the other side of town.

Hi fischman,
Yeah, I'm gigging around town again. I'm now jamming with a band called Dangerous Jim & the Slims.

Here are the dates:

» May 8th, The Wooden Horse
with special guests STONE BLUE
» May 22nd, SPECIAL EVENT TBA
» Jun. 5th, KIDSFEST, near P&G Pavillion at Sawyer Point
» Jun. 12th, St. Gertrude Parish Festival, 7-11pm
» Jun. 22nd, Greenhills Concert on The Commons
» Jun. 25th, St. Bernard's CONCERT IN THE PARK
» Jun. 26th, SPECIAL EVENT TBA
» Jul. 3rd, "RED, WHITE AND KABOOM", Fairfield, Oh
» Jul. 9th & 10th, Thunder Alley Roadhouse
(formerly the V TWIN) - Fairfield, Oh
» Jul. 17th, SPECIAL EVENT TBA
» Jul. 24th, Leo's Bash
» Jul. 31st, THE HAVANA MARTINI CLUB
Main Street, Downtown Cincinnati
» Sep. 3rd, THUNDER ALLEY ROADHOUSE
» Sep. 18th, VILLAGE GREEN AMPHITHEATER, Fairfield, Oh
opening for BLESSID UNION OF SOULS
» Sep. 19th, Kentucky Cup at Turfway Park
» Sep. 24th & 25th, The Knotty Pine
» Oct. 9th, Private Party in London, Ky.
» Nov. 12th & 13th, Rick's Tavern
» Dec. 3rd & 4th, Rick's Tavern

[jumpduck]

WOW! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[fischman]

Jeff, that's a pretty diverse schedule you have there. I really don't get much chance to see local acts anymore, not even at Blue Note (they always booked less than impressive bands) which is just around the corner from me.

Fairfield has an amphitheatre? I would have never guessed. Good luck with the summer gigs.