Condenser/Dynamic question

[bbarkow]

I don't know jack about this stuff, so maybe somebody can help me out...

Say you have an 8-channel powered mixer with global phantom power. If you switch the phantom power on, it goes to all of the channels. Does that mean that you can't run condenser mics and dynamic mics together - it's either one or the other?

What happens if you plug a dynamic mic into a channel that's being fed phantom power?

Thanks.

[Fred5]

Does that mean that you can't run condenser mics and dynamic mics together - it's either one or the other?

You can run both simultaneously.

What happens if you plug a dynamic mic into a channel that's being fed phantom power?

Nothing - it will just keep on working normally. I've heard that some old skool type of ribbon mics can get hurt by phantom power.

[bbarkow]

Nothing - it will just keep on working normally. I've heard that some old skool type of ribbon mics can get hurt by phantom power.

:cool:

Thanks, Fred :thu:

[Üg Bluhnt]

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[dirtyragamuffin]

I don't know jack about this stuff, so maybe somebody can help me out...

Say you have an 8-channel powered mixer with global phantom power. If you switch the phantom power on, it goes to all of the channels. Does that mean that you can't run condenser mics and dynamic mics together - it's either one or the other?

What happens if you plug a dynamic mic into a channel that's being fed phantom power?

Thanks.

Modern dynamic mics will not be harmed by phantom power. The only time you have to worry about it is if you're plugging a ribbon mic into a TRS patchpoint that's carrying phantom...you have nothing to worry about :)


So what condenser did you end up getting?

[bbarkow]

Modern dynamic mics will not be harmed by phantom power. The only time you have to worry about it is if you're plugging a ribbon mic into a TRS patchpoint that's carrying phantom...you have nothing to worry about :)


So what condenser did you end up getting?

WTF is a TRS patchpoint? :D

I still haven't made up my mind on what to get. As usual, I'm torn between wanting something decent and something cheap. From what I've been reading, a lot of blugrass guys like the Audio Technica AT-40xx mics. And, for a dirt cheap mic, it seems like a lot of them like the MXL 990. I'm still on the lookout for a deal on a used Shure.

:confused:

[dirtyragamuffin]

WTF is a TRS patchpoint? :D

Never you mind, mah fwend :D


I still haven't made up my mind on what to get. As usual, I'm torn between wanting something decent and something cheap. From what I've been reading, a lot of blugrass guys like the Audio Technica AT-40xx mics. And, for a dirt cheap mic, it seems like a lot of them like the MXL 990. I'm still on the lookout for a deal on a used Shure.

:confused:Yeah, I think it would be hard to go wrong with the AT 40-series or the Shure KSM32. Both would be lotsa bang for your buck, proven workhorses and easy to unload should the need arise.

[daddymack]

WTF is a TRS patchpoint? :D

I still haven't made up my mind on what to get. As usual, I'm torn between wanting something decent and something cheap. From what I've been reading, a lot of blugrass guys like the Audio Technica AT-40xx mics. And, for a dirt cheap mic, it seems like a lot of them like the MXL 990. I'm still on the lookout for a deal on a used Shure.

:confused:Tip Ring Sleeve are essentially stereo jacks/plugs...:wave:

2.5, 3.5 and 6.35 mm TRS plugs aka Tip Ring Sleeve (TRS) connectors are three-conductor jack plugs and the corresponding sockets, used in many stereophonic and other audio applications.

1. Sleeve: usually ground
2. Ring: Right-hand channel for stereo signals, negative phase for balanced mono signals, power supply for power-requiring mono signal sources
3. Tip: Left-hand channel for stereo signals, positive phase for balanced mono signals, signal line for unbalanced mono signals
4. Insulating ringsThe term is associated with telephone usage. In twisted pair wiring to this day, the non-inverting and/or "live" wire of each pair is known as the ring, while the inverting and/or "earthy" wire is known as the tip. If the pair is shielded, or if the pair is accompanied by a dedicated earth wire, this third conductor is known as the sleeve. This usage corresponds to the connection to a three-connector jack plug in a manual telephone exchange. This appears to have originated with the use of TRS jacks by switchboard operators with the tip and ring wires attached to the corresponding parts of the jack. Originally, the hot and ground were reversed, but often the metallic desktops of the switch boards were scarred by the discharge from the tips and the system was reversed to the present usage.

The term tip ring sleeve is more common in some English-speaking countries than others. Outside of the USA the term stereo jack plug is probably more common, even for connectors not used for stereo. The modern profile three-conductor jack plug was originally designed for stereo signal connections, with left channel on the tip, right on the ring and common return on the body or sleeve. The term TRS is particularly appropriate to distinguish these three-conductor (stereo) plugs used in other than stereo applications.

Unbalanced Balanced Stereo
Tip Signal Positive/"Hot" Left channel
Ring Not present Negative/"Cold" Right channel
Sleeve Ground/Return Ground Ground