Your biggest NAMM disappointments?

[Rabid]

I’m going with East/West introducing yet another sampler engine, Play, for their sample libraries. The new engine uses iLock. I was happy with the NI player and their registration/security system. Looks like no East/West libraries in my imminent future. :evil:

Robert

[seclusion]

No Logic Pro 8...

[MikeRivers]

Disappointments? I thought it was going to be warmer here. I didn't bring enough undershirts and wasn't offered EVEN ONE t-shirt from a booth. Those people got no respect for the media. I was able to mooch a coffee cup, however, so I didn't have to drink coffee out of a styrofoam cup in the hotel room.

[UstadKhanAli]

I seem to have gotten really congested from walking around NAMM and feel lousy today. Not gonna go in to work.... Aside from that, no real disappointments.

[Ed A.]

No Logic Pro 8...

Yeah, that was disappointing. Maybe at Musikmesse at the end of March, I hope.

[coyote-1]

My biggest NAMM disappointment: Every vendor's mission is to fulfill my every wish when it comes to music gear. To date, they have failed. Every product there should have been tailored just for me, every product should include all the best of all the new and old technologies. When are they gonna make electromachanical tonewheels that can be controlled via MIDI and USB? Where are the fully analog yet fully digital synths? Where's the modeled bassoon controller? And I'm still waiting for the pocket-sized digital 2" tape, 24-input recorder.

[Lee Knight]

I kinda miss those hair metal wanna be guys and chicks walking aroung with hairspray, spandex and leopard skin boots.

[UstadKhanAli]

I kinda miss those hair metal wanna be guys and chicks walking aroung with hairspray, spandex and leopard skin boots.

You didn't see enough at NAMM? :D

[Lee Knight]

You didn't see enough at NAMM? :D

Not like 10 years ago!

[MDLMUSIC]

My biggest disappointment was that there were hardly any off-the-wall products in the lower level (Hall E) like there were in previous shows.

The only really innovative thing I saw was a stretchy cloth guitar cover that looked like it was painted on the guitar. You could go online and upload your own photo and the company makes the cover. Unfortunately they only have them for three pickup Stratocasters, but they said they'll be making them for other models soon.

Other than that, I didn't see anything really new.

[Phil O'Keefe]

I seem to have gotten really congested from walking around NAMM and feel lousy today. Not gonna go in to work.... Aside from that, no real disappointments.

That's what happened to me yesterday Ken - heavy-duty sinus headache. :(

BTW, I went by the RND booth and got a contact number... we'll talk. :wave:

[UstadKhanAli]

That's what happened to me yesterday Ken - heavy-duty sinus headache. :(

BTW, I went by the RND booth and got a contact number... we'll talk. :wave:

Beautiful, thanks, Phil!

I'm home sick today, and I'm sure that it started from walking around the convention center. Ugh.

[Alndln2]

I’m going with East/West introducing yet another sampler engine, Play, for their sample libraries. I agree, the worst part is no drag & drop for their percussive engines(Strom Drum 2 for instance), and someone else mentioned no tempo sync either(I can't confirm that though). An i-Lok for that? :confused:

[The Pro]

From an armchair tourist's point of view:

More technology is being designed for DJ's, less for musicians.

[UstadKhanAli]

My biggest disappointment was that there were hardly any off-the-wall products in the lower level (Hall E) like there were in previous shows.

I had the same reaction as well. Not as many odd, innovative, or strange things. Maybe I've gotten too used to "expecting" those sorts of products to be there, but in either case, I left wanting more of that! :D

[Jeff Leites]

I missed the dinner, because I was only there on Friday, and I missed Craig's performance due to a conflict. Fortunitly I did bump into him and get a chance to say hi. It was very serendipitous, we got on the escalator, and I thought I saw someone else I knew outside the Fender room, we rode the escalator all the way back up, and the person I thought I knew was gone, but while waiting for a mob to clear to get back on the escalator down, my wife spotted Craig. :wave: I didn't see him until he was in my face.

My highlights were getting my picture taken with Spencer Davis and Jim Marshall. Jim Marshall asked me if my wife wanted a picture with him, which I thought was odd, but I took one, then he asked her for a kiss! :eek: Hum, my wife kissed Jim Marshall, I think there is something profound there. :D

[boosh]

serendipitous

Man that is one of the coolest english words I've ever seen.

I'd like to put that in one sentence with "Duck Billed Platypus",.......:p

[Jeff Leites]

Man that is one of the coolest english words I've ever seen.

I'd like to put that in one sentence with "Duck Billed Platypus",.......:p

"The Duck Billed Platypus was first discovered by serendipitous Europeans in the late 1700s." :D

I don't know if serendipity really had anything to do with it, but there's your sentence. :D

[Mr. Botch]

Still no wireless sustain pedals for gigging keyboardists...

[Gus Lozada]

Well... this was a NO surprises / big news NAMM. At all.

However I felt the industry is very estable and robust.
All pieces of software were way cool; nice "new" hardware synths everywhere; RHODES is back :thu: ; Waldorf will be back; Kurzweil is back; lots of DJ stuff; VERY affordable solutions for everyone, everywhere...

Even when there were no espectacular announcements, it was a very good show.

[The Pro]

Still no wireless sustain pedals for gigging keyboardists...

Cool idea.

CME's new UF series of controllers have built-in wireless midi so coming up with a WIDI sustain pedal probably isn't that much of a stretch.

[Phil O'Keefe]

No 32 channel I/O unit for PT LE. :cry:

[Gus Lozada]

No 32 channel I/O unit for PT LE. :cry:

... and no Digi003 either :freak:

[venkiee]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/paul24/fuckit.jpg

Will see in Next NAMM....

[jonmatifa]

I was about to upgrade my audio interface, but then I decided to wait for namm. Then I heard about what was being release. So I actually found an old Layla24, not much of an upgrade, but it works for me.

[SpectralJulian]

Nothing new from Electro-Harmonix. No MIM Fender Jazzmasters.

[Robman2]

Biggest disapointment for me was NOT being able to tear away from the booth at all, barely got time to hit the John.

If ya'll missed the Hosa booth, as for nothing cool, well, we had cool in booth 5590.

Latest Zaolla Artist series (G & H Clear Connect plugs, look ma no solder)

"Spit Happens"...Lizard Spit Polish and fret board orange oil (Look ma, I'm green, non toxic and no silicone smear) The Warrior guy had to borrow it to close a two guitar deal.

Cue 5's, a class "D" close field, reference monitor.

I know, I know Hosa makes speakers? Well we did invent the lightpipe patch bay after all and sell a few digital format converters to boot so why not develop the next wave?

We engineerd these in country from scratch and assemble them here in Buena Park.

Ellis Hall listened to a few of his mixes and said "Wow, these play back the way I mixed them"

Terry Howard will test drive a release set next month. (he asked)

Cool for me, as we have been working on this for two years.

5" pair, no intermodulation distortion, no noise floor, runs analog in or...heh, heh, heh...96K down to 32 bit via TOS or S/PDIF cable. Not Bi-amped, uses a passive crossover circuit. Tons of volume, they play loud at unity gain.

Not dispersion oriented as digital plays back completley as the material was laid down, detail, imaging a lot of comments on that clarity.

"hearing things, I haven't heard before" is a usual comment when a guy puts in their favorite familer CD.

Sub output, addressable software (MAC or PC), via RS232 or Cat 5. Soft ware allows preset storage, EQ, treble and Bass, Volume, fader right or left, fade in or out time...settings for the data cable etc.

The guy from ADAM , listened a few minutes then wandered off mumbling something about complete solution.

No one who heard these had anything but praise for the step into the future.

Mitch likes them (a lot) he's heard them trhough the beta state, so does Kevin Killin.

Phil, Craig, we should talk sometime.

Sorry for the horn tooting but we rocked!

[enb141]

For me the biggest disappoint was no m-audio Delta PCI express cards, no parker 7 (which I doubt they will make one) :(

[Anderton]

One of my biggest disappointments is that a lot of software plug-in companies said it took them so long to convert their product line to Intel Mac they didn't really have time to work on new products.

[jonmatifa]

For me the biggest disappoint was no m-audio Delta PCI express cards, no parker 7 (which I doubt they will make one) :(

You know, I thought there would be a lot more PCI Express stuff by now. All the current motherboards support it, why so few peripherals, let alone audio interfaces on it? Did firewire preemptively kill PCI express? Maybe another topic should be started...

[Anderton]

...and I was really disappointed that when we played on Sunday, the Mac G5 that everything was feeding through froze, and I couldn't hear myself play! I eventually figured out to take off the headphones, but there will still big issues with the "band" being able to hear each other. Technology...

[ATOMICDOG1]

My biggest pet peeve was that there were far too many V badges running around Friday and Saturday making it harder for me to do my job.
Other than that, I was disappointed that there wasn't really anything that jumped out and impressed me this year. Seemed like a pretty tame show with a whole lot of rehashes and updates of existing products and nothing new really pushing the envelope. I suppose that the 1 bit recorder from Korg was pretty cool, but it was released before the NAMM show so I can't say it was new. *edit* I forgot the new Vocalist pedal from Digitech, that chord recognition software they have in it is really cool.

[Jon Chappell]

The only really innovative thing I saw was a stretchy cloth guitar cover that looked like it was painted on the guitar. You could go online and upload your own photo and the company makes the cover. Unfortunately they only have them for three pickup Stratocasters, but they said they'll be making them for other models soon.

Yeah, those were kinda cute. They're form fitting, so at first you can't tell that it's a cover -- it looks like a guitar made out of tied-dyed cotton. But then you get up close and realize it's zippered onto the guitar (the zipper's on the side, where you can see it from straight on). I wonder though, about the uses for such a cover, when you think about it.

[FunkyLaptop]

One of my biggest disappointments is that a lot of software plug-in companies said it took them so long to convert their product line to Intel Mac they didn't really have time to work on new products.

Expect a repeat for Leopard.

I hope things from Apple will be much more settled for the next few years, I can't imagine any more huge transitions coming up.

I did not mind seeing the Arturia JP-8, but I was disappointed at the lack of software direct from hardware companies, notably Roland. Korg's approach looks very good to me, and I would really like a product with a collection of classic Roland gear, with Korg style pricing. $300 per synth hurts.

[Big Boss Man]

1) No Logic 8
2) No UAD-2
3) No Digi003

[Alndln2]

One of my biggest disappointments is that a lot of software plug-in companies said it took them so long to convert their product line to Intel Mac they didn't really have time to work on new products. This is really becoming an issue for customers and developers over at KVR-VST and is pissing a lot of people off across the board. Thankfully there are brilliant PC only products being developed (Nebula 2) that aren't hampered by this debacle.

[Phil O'Keefe]

This is really becoming an issue for customers and developers over at KVR-VST and is pissing a lot of people off across the board. Thankfully there are brilliant PC only products being developed (Nebula 2) that aren't hampered by this debacle.


Yeah, but just wait until Vista comes out... we'll all be scrambling to find software, drivers and updates for everything, just like our Mac-using friends have been doing recently. :(

[Anderton]

Yeah, but just wait until Vista comes out... we'll all be scrambling to find software, drivers and updates for everything, just like our Mac-using friends have been doing recently. :(

Maybe not. I've heard most programs run fine on Vista, BUT they won't take full advantage of the 64-bit operation unless they were designed for that express purpose...ditto 64-bit drivers. If you're willing to "live in an XP world" but with a Vista interface, things should be pretty much status quo.

At least that's the rumor...

[Mark Wein]

...it seemed to me that mid priced "working player" guitars and amps that actually sounded good were in short supply...I played alot of awful expensive acoustic guitars...not too many good electrics, either...loved the handwired Marshalls, though....

[jonmatifa]

Maybe not. I've heard most programs run fine on Vista, BUT they won't take full advantage of the 64-bit operation unless they were designed for that express purpose...ditto 64-bit drivers. If you're willing to "live in an XP world" but with a Vista interface, things should be pretty much status quo.

Should is a good operative keyword... this is microsoft, well, software in general we're talking about.

But you're right, 64-bit XP has been around for a long time as well as 64-bit processors, so vista's really just a XP-64 with a facelift and some other little upgrades. I'd still at least dual boot with an old, reliable XP install if I were to jump on the vista bandwagon.

[MDLMUSIC]

My biggest pet peeve was that there were far too many V badges running around Friday and Saturday making it harder for me to do my job.



Hey, I was one of those V badges.

What got me was the number of toddlers and little kids in strollers. I was at one booth where three kids all under the age of 6 were abusing a bunch of bongos and congas while their "parent" was sitting at a table talking with a sales rep.

[Mark Wein]

[quote=ATOMICDOG1;20516918]My biggest pet peeve was that there were far too many V badges running around Friday and Saturday making it harder for me to do my job.
QUOTE]


Hey, I was one of those V badges.

What got me was the number of toddlers and little kids in strollers. I was at one booth where three kids all under the age of 6 were abusing a bunch of bongos and congas while their "parent" was sitting at a table talking with a sales rep.

I could have brought my 2 year old in his stroller? Amazing.....

[ATOMICDOG1]

[QUOTE=ATOMICDOG1;20516918]My biggest pet peeve was that there were far too many V badges running around Friday and Saturday making it harder for me to do my job.
QUOTE]


Hey, I was one of those V badges.

What got me was the number of toddlers and little kids in strollers. I was at one booth where three kids all under the age of 6 were abusing a bunch of bongos and congas while their "parent" was sitting at a table talking with a sales rep.

Its just that it seemed like there were far more than I remember being at the past few shows though. Thats in addition to all of the N (non exibiting member) badges, A (artist) badges, M (media) badges, and all of the badges that some of the stores seemed to be handing out to anyone who walked thru their doors- there were so many on Saturday, they actually started ID checks in the afternoon to make sure that the people wearing the badges names matched the names on the passes.
I go to the show to do business, it sucks when I'm spending half the day tripping over people who are just there looking around and not doing business, but eating up reps time and clogging up the flow of traffic... it wasted a lot of my time.- Oh, and the small kids at the show are definitely a bad idea. With a show that big, and that much time needed to look around, kids get bored and cranky.

[zyx345]

No new Fender/Charvel EVH Wolfgang

[ddmau]

I was also disappointed at what I saw were typical products and not any real unique "I haven't seen that before" products.

However, there was one that I would vote as best and unique product of NAMM 2007, under $50.00. On my last day, I saw a small booth in the D-Hall by Roland, that these two guys were showcasing a new double capo. It pretty much combines a short cut or partial capo and a regular capo into one unit, allowing for some cool alternate tunings and open voicings on a regular standard tuned guitar. You could also flip it around and use it as a regular capo.

Anyway, I was blown away and entertained with some of the stuff they were doing with it and they were nice enough to give away some free shirts (unlike the big boys who went cheap this year). I tried to buy one but they freakin sold out on day 3. There was a line of peeps signing up for pre-orders, so I just did that.

Anyway, if you missed it, here's their website, www.transpocapo.com

-dm

[ATOMICDOG1]

No new Fender/Charvel EVH Wolfgang

Ummm, except for the relic model you mean. Too spendy for most people tho.

[rbomb]

I was wanting to see a updated VOX Valvetronix vtX line.

[the otter]

Harmony Central

[Anderton]

I know, we didn't have the dancing girls this year, and we got a lot of flak for that. But you gotta admit the trained poodles were pretty cool.

[Robman2]

The badges are a two edged sword.

If we don't see civillians, according to some folks like Larry at ADK, then the reach to endorsees is dissapated.

Every year, I am indunated with please get me a badge calls, usually from dealers, who are kissing asses.

Then there are personal friends, a few, then there are new vendors of ours like the crew at Lizard Spit.

I'm told that next year, the badge parade will change, an allotment of us (the exhibitor) and X amount of one badge fits all for the rest.

Manufacturers are limited in badges by company size, and wether they have paid for a sub listing in the show directory, as a brand, division of etc.

Where we were, the traffic was quality on all four days, and yes Saturday is lookie loo day.

RM
Zaolla & Hosa

[Surrealistic Brillo]

1. No Micro POG from Electro Harmonix.

2. No Micro Deluxe Electric Mistress from Electro Harmonix

3. No Micro Deluxe Memory Man from Electro Harmonix

4. The Boss pedal offerings were terrible this year.

5. The Fender EVH guitar demo by EVH.

6. No multi effects units with analog distortion/24 bit or higher digital modeling (analog sounding) time based and modulation effects with no gaps between presets...like say...a Boss GT-Pro with analog compressor/wah/distortion-od-fuzz/EQ.

7. No Digitech Expression factory with presets and full on MIDI capability.

8. No new, reasonably priced MIDI loop switchers for pedals that have front pannel access to each loop (and is 9 loops with sturdy jacks too much to ask for?...the Rocktron Patchmate was a great unit, but the jacks were CRAP and the damn thing was insanely expensive)...you would think with boutique pedals being as popular as they are these days, there would be more quality MIDI loop switchers that didn't cost an arm and a leg on the market.

9. No cool new pedals or effects racks from Line 6. How about a really nice two space rack that combines higher build and audio quality versions of their Echo Pro, Mod Pro and Filter Pro with a programmable Verbzilla built in that has better MIDI implementation. Programming the bypass via MIDI was a pain in the ass, for example...and killer editing software like on the Boss GT-Pro.

[Surrealistic Brillo]

Ummm, except for the relic model you mean. Too spendy for most people tho.

I honestly can't imagine why someone would spend THAT kind of money on a crappy beat to shit guitar that looks like it came from a meth fiend's basement and sounds like a $99 pawn shop special. :(

[Coach]

DJ's are musicians too.

From an armchair tourist's point of view:

More technology is being designed for DJ's, less for musicians.

[ihateyouguys]

DJ's are musicians too.

Insert ROFL smilie here.

[Coach]

Insert ROFL smilie here.

Open yr eyes son. :idea:

[ihateyouguys]

Open yr eyes son. :idea:

My eyes are open. DJ's aren't musicians, they're DJ's.

Unless they're playing a keyboard or something along with their dj duties. But they're not musicians. Sorry.

[sysexguy]

No air, glad I'm not the only one who noticed. Everyone in my small company is now sick and several of our suppliers reported the same thing.:mad:

Andy

[Anderton]

My eyes are open. DJ's aren't musicians, they're DJ's.

Unless they're playing a keyboard or something along with their dj duties. But they're not musicians. Sorry.


Are symphony conductors musicians?

I don't want to turn this into a DJ-vs-musicians thread but I think it's important to note that there is a wide variety of DJs. Some are basically just, well, DJs. Others have such skill and dexterity in terms of scratching, beat-matching, and song selection that they make my jaw drop. I've seen DJs who were as good on their "instrument" as any guitarists are on theirs, BUT they're few and far between. In many cases, interestingly, they also have good chops on a traditional instrument...but they choose the DJ setup as their primary instrument. Even more interesting are the DJs who create their own tracks to DJ. They're definitely musicians.

Regardless of whether someone considers them musicians or not, though, there's no denying it takes skill to keep a crowd's attention for hours at a time and never make a mistake.

[ihateyouguys]

Are symphony conductors musicians?



Are the guys that direct the jets on an aircraft carrier pilots?

Maybe the aircraft carrier couldn't work without them. But they don't qualify as pilots.

Maybe they have private pilot's licenses in the civilian world, and they're pilots there. But that doesn't make them pilots on the flight deck.

I also don't view producers or engineers as being "musicians" either. They may play an integral part in getting music down, but the musicians are the guys (and gals) writing and performing the work. Again,they could be writers or guitar players or pianists in other instances. They could have musical training that they use in their job. But for what they're doing in that particular role, they're not being musicians. Bastardizing the word so everyone feels included as being a musician ultimately makes the word useless.

I can go to the local upscale food store, buy a bunch expensive gourmet frozen meals and put them in the microwave. I can add spices and seasoning and other sauces to the mix. I can even cut up some vegetables and serve all of it to my guests. But none of that actually makes me a chef. It would ridiculous for me to claim to be a chef for having done that. Chefs are the ones that either came up with the recipe in the first place (composer) or put the meal together from basic ingredients according to the recipe (musician). Reheating food and adding spices to taste does not a chef make.

[macmoondoggie]

[QUOTE=Anderton;20584368]Are symphony conductors musicians?

They are almost without exception very fine musicians.

[The Chinese]

Are symphony conductors musicians?

I don't want to turn this into a DJ-vs-musicians thread but I think it's important to note that there is a wide variety of DJs. Some are basically just, well, DJs. Others have such skill and dexterity in terms of scratching, beat-matching, and song selection that they make my jaw drop. I've seen DJs who were as good on their "instrument" as any guitarists are on theirs, BUT they're few and far between. In many cases, interestingly, they also have good chops on a traditional instrument...but they choose the DJ setup as their primary instrument. Even more interesting are the DJs who create their own tracks to DJ. They're definitely musicians.

Regardless of whether someone considers them musicians or not, though, there's no denying it takes skill to keep a crowd's attention for hours at a time and never make a mistake.

Y'know, I had the negative impression of DJ's until last August....


When I went to the Burning Man Festival. I was floored by the DJ's there and how creative a smooth the transitions were, how they could manipulate the crowd, pump them up, bring them down, ebb and flow. It was truly a mind altering event (even without the you-know-what....I don't imbibe the heavy stuff).

That being said, I think there should be more technology to bring music to the masses- If everyone can compose their own music, then that raises the bar for everyone else, and forces us "Musicians" to be more creative.

-Todd A.

[Anderton]

[QUOTE=Anderton;20584368]Are symphony conductors musicians?

They are almost without exception very fine musicians.

That's my point exactly. They are musicians, but they choose a different way of expressing that than playing a traditional "instrument." I agree that just the act of stringing records together in a sequence, no matter how skillfully done, is not the traditional definition of a musician. BUT there are plenty of musicians who have chosen the DJ setup as their primary instrument of choice. In that case, they are, by definition, musicians. And I think what they bring to a DJ setup almost invariably goes beyond what someone can do who doesn't have musical training.

[slapshot]

I kinda miss those hair metal wanna be guys and chicks walking aroung with hairspray, spandex and leopard skin boots.


If you are lucky you could have seen some 80's rock stars whom now are old looking fat and still have big hair. LOL!

[Surrealistic Brillo]

Are symphony conductors musicians?


Not when they're conducting...and not all conductors play an instrument.

I never understood why some DJ's feel the need to be called musicians. As if somehow being a DJ or an arranger somehow made them less important than being a musician.

There's a reason why they have different terms (conductor, composer, arranger, musician, DJ, etc.)...it's because they are all different tasks and require different skill sets.

I can grow tomatoes in my back yard...it doesn't make me a chef, at best, it makes me a gardener. :thu:

[Anderton]

I never understood why some DJ's feel the need to be called musicians. As if somehow being a DJ or an arranger somehow made them less important than being a musician.

There's a reason why they have different terms (conductor, composer, arranger, musician, DJ, etc.)...it's because they are all different tasks and require different skill sets.

Very well said. Actually, I don't really know any DJs who want to be called musicians, they're quite happy with being called DJs (they're even happier when they get paid for it, LOL). The "DJs as musicians" thing often seems to be raised by musicians who don't share your (100% correct) viewpoint that the different terms reflect different (not inferior or superior) skill sets.

[HKSblade1]

Big Disappointment no Sound demo of the GSP1101

[PetersReviews]

Big Disappointment no Sound demo of the GSP1101

I know, I was excited to see a new model. However, the guy at the booth said it was far from production and the display model was just a mock up. I wrote a short article about it here (http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/2819-NAMM-2007-Digitechs-New-GSP1101-Rack-Guitar-Effects-Processor.html).
I love my 2112 and still use it but I think Digitech abandoned the rack stuff for a while in order to push their pedal line. It's great to see them get back into the rack mount guitar stuff again!

Peter

P.S. I put my own NAMM 2007 updates here (http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/categories/19-NAMM-2007).

[RhettHours]

...no neckthru S...I'm gonna be hung up on this for a while btw...

[BLAblablah]

My biggest NAMM disappointment? I couldn't go :mad:
Bear

[Anderton]

My biggest disappointment was not getting out of Hall A...the only way I'm finding out what else was at the show is by looking at the videos in the theater.

[Kid Klash]

My biggest disappointment was the fact that there were only two Dean babes this year.... in years past, they had half a dozen scantilly-clad beautiful babes, ready to pose with whoever had enough guts to have their photo taken with them. ;)

Things have gotten way too conservative at NAMM. :cry:

:D

[Anderton]

My biggest disappointment was the fact that there were only two Dean babes this year.... in years past, they had half a dozen scantilly-clad beautiful babes, ready to pose with whoever had enough guts to have their photo taken with them. ;)

Things have gotten way too conservative at NAMM. :cry:

:D

Downsizing strikes again!

[hybrid7]

I'm guessing that Godin's Redline series was a big snooze... they hyped it with an advance press release, but nobody covered it and even the company hasn't released anything but a shot of the headstock.

Has anybody seen the Redline series? Are there any photos?

[Ra_]

Maybe Austin will be bigger than usual, to make up for a lame Cali?

I am disappointed that when you email Digitech about the Vocalist,
they tell you that they don't have a clue as to a release date.

Those fake relic guitars really give me the creeps.

[HKSblade1]

I fig'd it be a mockup! Guess this means a late Summer release? :mad: