Slap, Tap & Stuff: The Dark Slide Video Thread !

[Dark Slide]

So a while back, someone asked me if I might be willing to do some videos on slapping.

Just basic stuff, he wanted some info on hand position and that sort of stuff... but I don't subscribe to that shit. You play how you play, I play how I play.. you adapt what I show you to fit your style. That's my basic opinion on that.

But some basic exercises and how to apply them to music. And possibly if things go good enough, maybe some advanced stuff and the breaking down of some of the wankfests I have posted.

I figured if I was going to bother, I might as well ask everyone.

I don't have a FANTASTIC cam, but the one I do have is pretty decent and should be capable of getting the point across pretty well.

Anyone else interested in following along, or should I just keep it in PMs.

I'm not sure how many of you have heard my stuff so I will post a couple of links. Keep in mind these were for competitions that were tech based, no on any musical or compositional aspects (Though those things never hurt).

So, anyway... a few clips. They are wanktastic. Sorry.

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/SlapFinal.mp3
http://hatredalive.com/nicks/Oolpcomp.mp3 (Old but not too bad)
http://hatredalive.com/nicks/newslapmix.mp3 (Less wanky)

Anyway, I'm just curious if there is any interest or not.

Edit: Added first video

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/slapvideo/slapvid1.wmv

Video 2 is up, finally.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MEHRszJjxFQ - Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cYEgXqTCqnI - Part 2

Here is some tab to go along with the videos.

Opening Riff


S P S P L S P P P S
G |--------------x---------12h13-------|
D |------------x-x---12h14-------14----|
A |----11h12-----x---------------------|
E |-12-------x---x-x-----------------0-|

S P S P L S S S P L S P
G |--------------x------------x-----|
D |------------x-x------------x-----|
A |----11h12-----x----------x-x---7-|
E |-12-------x---x-x-9h10-x---x-x---|



This is the riff around 6:30


Paradiddle Riff

P S P P S P S S
G |-7-----6-----------|
D |-----7-------6-----|
A |---5------7----7---|
E |-----------------0-|

[T-40]

I think it would be cool as hell to learn slap but my fingers don't seem to agree with me. :(

BMAL did show me a little when he was here but I haven't even got that right yet.

[baracuda2004]

After having listened to your mp3's numerous times; i've come to a conclusion...I HATE YOU!!!!:mad:


:thu: Good stuff though..

[4string]

I'm in.

Won't be able to incorporate it into any of our country sets, but I like to be a rounded bassist.

[Ace Of Bass]

I think it's a good idea for people who want to learn.

[brake]

I can slap fairly well, but never have needed to. I was working with a hip hop guy in the studio and I ended up throwing some slap stuff on there. Really, it's the only time I've ever needed it.



That's not to say I dont like to do it... haha, I'd definitely be down.

[Ace Of Bass]

Originally posted by brake
I can slap fairly well, but never have needed to. I was working with a hip hop guy in the studio and I ended up throwing some slap stuff on there. Really, it's the only time I've ever needed it.



That's not to say I dont like to do it... haha, I'd definitely be down.

I can slap pretty damn well, but I didn't learn it for it's usefulness. I mean, I try to be a well rounded bassist, but I learned slap just because it's fun--which is probably also why I practice it so much, and thus why I'm better at slapping and tapping than a fingerstyle.:freak:

[willsellout]

I'll learn whatever you want to teach my friend. I am competent but I have no creativity as I am so limited in my slapping abilities.



Dan

[dragon9666]

What kinda gear you got/record on?

[twany03]

I'm interested

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by dragon9666
What kinda gear you got/record on?

Why does it matter?

[nicebigstrings]

I'd love to get some new tricks up my sleeve. I haven't really added to the database of slap licks in a long time. And after seeing both Marcus Miller and Maceo Parker at the Toronto Jazz Festival this past week I'm in the mood for a major slap upgrade.

Love those MP3s by the way!

[Hunter6]

I'm in. You should just post it on the forums so everyone can see and learn how to slap. Slapping is extremely fun. I've been trying to learn some Wooten stuff, but I'm not really that good yet.

[Rowka]

I'm in, too.
I'd love to get a little wankery in my fingers.

[Gaui]

I'm in, my slap technique is not so good.

[Thunderbroom]

I'm in.

[CabbitHabbit324]

Me too, I've been messing around with slapping alot lately. It'll nice good to get better tips early on.

[timmerz]

You already know I want it...

Never hurts to upgrade your playing abilities, even later in your career.

[Dark Slide]

Alright guys. I will get started on it and will start a thread with the first videos as soon as I finish them. For some of you, the first videos (And possibly most of the stuff I show) will be some repetitive stuff, but hopefully I can add some useful practice routines and just general ideas to your weaponry.

[timmerz]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
Alright guys. I will get started on it and will start a thread with the first videos as soon as I finish them. For some of you, the first videos (And possibly most of the stuff I show) will be some repetitive stuff, but hopefully I can add some useful practice routines and just general ideas to your weaponry.

You're golden, DS....
Thanks!

[venturawest]

video please! video please!

also, please keep some stuff at beginner level for those of us who are not yet wank-tastic. thanks!

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by venturawest
video please! video please!

also, please keep some stuff at beginner level for those of us who are not yet wank-tastic. thanks!

Not a problem. That is what was originally asked or me, so I will try to keep it there. Maybe at some point we can get a sticky made.

[4string]

Originally posted by Dark Slide


Not a problem. That is what was originally asked or me, so I will try to keep it there. Maybe at some point we can get a sticky made.

+2 for making it a sticky

[Flatball]

Hey Dark Slide,

Very nice technique. I just listened to your clips. I'm glad you explained that they were for competition purposes because, as you said, the wank factor is high. But you have a nice touch and tone dude.

This is in no way a dis, but the reason I've never been too much into slapping is that everyone who does it seems to overdo it. I think that if used sparingly and intelligently in an arrangement that it is a terrific tool/device to have in your chops arsenal. I want to be surprised when somebody throws 8 bars of slap into a groove just for the hell of it instead of groaning when the bass player starts a 2 minute wankout.

I'd love to hear your stuff in a real life recording situation and see what you do with a song.

Rock on.

Oh, and can you guess that I wish I had a decent slap technique?

[bottomfeeder]

I am in too. I have once again recommited myself to daily practice. this time broken down into specific goals for each session. I will add slap into the rotation!

[timmerz]

Originally posted by ksgant
I'm looking forward to this too. Where will the videos mainly be hosted at? Youtube? Or do you have your own server?

He can post them right here whenever he feels like it...he's posted a few here before, they were excellent.....

[Dark Slide]

I have space. I will more than likely host them myself.

[Zamfir]

Excellent. Thanks for doing this. :thu:


Plus, I just put new rounds on my Geddy J that beg to clank, whump, and poing. :cool:

[Westsailor]

Soon as you get done with the slapping vid I hope you'll offer to do the same for tapping.

Tapping is what's got me bumfoozled. I understand the mechanical/technical side but I'm at a loss creatively.:confused:

[mparsons]

You're incredibly talented on both bass and drums. I'll have to show these videos to my bassist when you make them ( I already showed your heel toe videos to my drummer, his response: "I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE!" )

:D

[Darkstorm]

I really like how you said "you dont go for that shitt, you play as you play..". Heartilly agrees. Doesnt do slap myself, just pick. But I think a basic thing I do with fretting hand can apply to slap to & more so. Course correct me if I'm wrong, but since slap often ncorporates knuckle hits, side or otherwise. Is best to learn to do them as percussive, rather then hard hits. Same principle of knuckle rapping a door for door knock, your going for loud not hard hit. And quick jerkaway is a basic key to pulling that off. Such would be coverable in the videos, "how to do it without hurting yourself and whythat makes for louder more percussive slap sound".


Vamprebunny says something about how blood from bleeding knuckles dripping across bass strings though attractive, does dull the sound some. Lol.


But yeah, I'd prob be interested in the video. Does admire some slap bass stuff even if doesnt slap myself And it can be inspiring to other styles of playing.

PS: Liked the first part of 1st mp3. Would be kewl type stuff to add some bass synth soundbeds and swirly in time pads tripping off some of those note flutters. Kinda drum & bass electronica funk music. Lol. Should of added its quick twitch muscle groups not strength muscles imo, for such stuff in orig post.

[lug]

The whole thing makes me want to set up triggers on wav samples for every time I touch my strings.

















....runs like hell

[Rowka]

Originally posted by lug
The whole thing makes me want to set up triggers on wav samples for every time I touch my strings.

Well played, sir.

[lug]

Originally posted by Rowka

Well played, sir.

Thank you. Since I recently came into possession of a large wooden spoon, I feel things must be constantly stirred.

[danthepersonage]

I'm in. You've got some damn good talent! :thu:

[JeffBass]

I don't know if my brain can absorb all that, let alone play it! Freaky. Reminds me of Stanley Clarke when I saw him do a solo with the New Barbarians. :thu:

[Dark Slide]

Ok, since I have a good idea of what the original requester wanted covered.... does anyone else have something specific they want to cover? Specific techniques, or... whatever?

I'm going to try and get the first couple videos done tonight and tomorrow.

Edit: I'd like to add that I am self taught and my knowledge of theory is about as close to nil as one can be without ACTUALLY being nil, so I can't and wont offer much in that department. I can play reasonably well and I am reasonably skilled at getting people to understand what is happening and how to make it work for themselves.

[chunkathalon]

I'll be following this thread as well...

I have a suggestion:

Let's not post in this thread unless we have a specific question or a helpful contributing comment, that way the thread isn't a lesson followed by 2 pages of "Hey, thanks DS!" followed by another lesson.

:idea:

[Ace Of Bass]

Did we really need this stickied BEFORE he posted any videos? :confused:

Anyway, yeah, if you're taking suggestions for stuff to cover, there's one technique I have a really hard time understanding. I've seen Bill Dickens and victor wooten had a video describing something similar once.
Basically, it involves doubleslapping with the thumb on the E string while successively popping the A, D, and G strings with the index, middle and ring finger at the same time as the doubleslapping.
I can do the basic double-slap/pop reasonably well, but getting that roll of pops down the strings really throws me off.

[jpark]

I'm in.

Also if you need any extra space for hosting I can hook you up with some.

[ZedsDead]

If you're willing to put in the time and effort, I'd be willing to watch the videos ;)

[Rowka]

Tease.:D




BTW, I finally saw the heel-toe vids. I new a drummer in the 80's hwo did a similar thing on the hi-hat, not the kicks. It wasn't for speed, but because he was using both hands elswhere on the kit and this way he was able to maintain a tck-tck-psshhh-tck-tck-tck-psshhh-tck with just his foot.

[Dark Slide]

I should have some up this weekend. Just some basic ones for the beginners.

[rikshaw]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
I should have some up this weekend. Just some basic ones for the beginners.

w00t!

[Fireball_73]

I can only really slap octaves between E and D. :freak:

FUCKING HELL I NEED IN!

[brake]

Dark Slide, do you do any double-thumping a la Larry Graham or Victor Wooten? I've been working on it lately and I'd love to see how someone else tackles it.

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by brake
Dark Slide, do you do any double-thumping a la Larry Graham or Victor Wooten? I've been working on it lately and I'd love to see how someone else tackles it.

Yes I do.... and I also do a different technique used a lot by Bill Dickens that I will talk about a little bit.

I will post the first vid in a bit. I am new to this and I have shit for video editing software which makes it difficult. If anyone has anything to help me out, let me know.

New video will be up in a few minutes.

[Dark Slide]

OK, this is the first video. It's not much, but I wanted to try some stuff out with angles and that sort of thing.

I am also hoping that the video is high enough quality. I can go higher quality, but then it limits me to 30 second shots, which sucks.

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/slapvideo/slapvid1.wmv

So it's just a quick vid of my hand position, why *I* choose to use it and what techniques it allows me to use in my playing style.

Check it out, let me know if everything looks ok, if the video is fast enough to pick up the movements, if the angles are ok. Etc etc... give me some feedback on what else you might like to see or different views you might like.

And anyone who has any suggestions for some good video editing software, that would be great too...

[timmerz]

Were we not supposed to express our appreciation in this thread? Is that what someone earlier suggested?
Downloaded and saved, DS....
Good start for me!
Thanks!

[Ace Of Bass]

When do we get the video of how to play by slapping our dicks on the strings?

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by timmerz
Were we not supposed to express our appreciation in this thread? Is that what someone earlier suggested?
Downloaded and saved, DS....
Good start for me!
Thanks!

Go ahead an post whatever.

Any suggestions as far as the video goes... or does this look like a format that will work well? I will make an attempt to use multiple angles to help people see what I am doing if this works ok.

Suggestions are extremely welcome, and I will start on the next video.

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by Ace Of Bass
When do we get the video of how to play by slapping our dicks on the strings?

Those are on the advanced tapes.

[tylytle]

That's pretty cool of you to do this.

Is there a way to slow speed through some of it? I don't know if windows media player has a slow speed option.

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by tylytle
That's pretty cool of you to do this.

Is there a way to slow speed through some of it? I don't know if windows media player has a slow speed option.

I believe I might be able to find a way to slow the framerate down.

What part were you talking about specifically. This was just an intro video to see how it worked out. I will make sure to go more in depth in future videos.

[tylytle]

Just slow speed on anything that may be of importance. Maybe like what you are doing with your right hand. Maybe just one lesson being slow. Some dumbasses like me might need to get a good view of what is actually going on.


I never wanted to learn slap. But since you are doing this, I figured what the hell.

[timmerz]

I think what he's getting at, and I'm pretty sure you were gonna hit this anyway, was to play a fairly difficult 4 beats and then break it down for us, so we can see exactly what each damn finger on the right hand is doing throughout the entire process....
The left hand that most of us have is used to doing off-the-cuff stuff, command-on-the-fly, so to speak, but our right hands are not used to doing anything out of the normal realm, and desperately need to be re-trained....

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by timmerz
I think what he's getting at, and I'm pretty sure you were gonna hit this anyway, was to play a fairly difficult 4 beats and then break it down for us, so we can see exactly what each damn finger on the right hand is doing throughout the entire process....
The left hand that most of us have is used to doing off-the-cuff stuff, command-on-the-fly, so to speak, but our right hands are not used to doing anything out of the normal realm, and desperately need to be re-trained....

Yeah. I will get into it. Like I said, this was just a test to see how the cam picked up the motions, what I could do as far as angle goes, how the sound was, etc etc. I am not going to get into any super complicated stuff right off, but I will work up to it. I got some good basic exercises to work on and whatnot.

Assuming this video seems like it is good enough, I will move on.

[tylytle]

Originally posted by Dark Slide


Yeah. I will get into it. Like I said, this was just a test to see how the cam picked up the motions, what I could do as far as angle goes, how the sound was, etc etc. I am not going to get into any super complicated stuff right off, but I will work up to it. I got some good basic exercises to work on and whatnot.

Assuming this video seems like it is good enough, I will move on.

Yeah the quality is great!

[Goofball Jones]

Wow, very nice Darkslide. Yes, the quality is great, the sound is great and the angles you use with the looking down the fretboard is fantastic.

You were talking about hand position, and I notice you're sitting while doing this. When standing and playing about where do you sling your bass? Way down low on your knees like some guys do, or right up under your chin like others? Or just about mid way so you can keep that hand angle?

Thanks again for the time and effort you've put into something you could have easily have charged for. :thu:

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by Goofball Jones
Wow, very nice Darkslide. Yes, the quality is great, the sound is great and the angles you use with the looking down the fretboard is fantastic.

You were talking about hand position, and I notice you're sitting while doing this. When standing and playing about where do you sling your bass? Way down low on your knees like some guys do, or right up under your chin like others? Or just about mid way so you can keep that hand angle?

Thanks again for the time and effort you've put into something you could have easily have charged for. :thu:

Hey! Now THAT is a great point!

I have my bass reasonably high but not enough to change my hand position.

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/musicpics/nick3.jpg

[ryanstanley]

yeah it'd be cool if you could kinda slow-mo a video clip while kinda explaining what you're doing with your hands at the same time.. im not sure if that takes a lot, ive never worked with video editing.. but it'd definately be helpful

[vanlatte]

Darkslide these are fantastic...keep em coming!

And I hate you!

Damn your talent!

:mad: :mad: :mad:



:D

[niomosy]

The clip was good. Good video and audio. Another thanks for doing this! :thu:

As for the slow down. I believe Premiere Pro has this functionality. I at least recall a friend showing it to me. It can also keep audio at the same pitch while slowing it down. Probably not a bad thing so people can play along with the slower version for a bit to get the hang of the technique.

[tylytle]

Or just simply play it really slow......

[willsellout]

Great video. I can't figure out what your doing or how to play it but the "why" you do things is very helpful. Also what you do is very cool. I don't think I would have thought about strumming while slapping. It's nice to see different techniques. I don't often get to see what or how others play so it was helpful.


Quality is great too.


Dan

[el_duderino676]

Originally posted by willsellout
Great video. I can't figure out what your doing or how to play it but the "why" you do things is very helpful. Also what you do is very cool. I don't think I would have thought about strumming while slapping. It's nice to see different techniques. I don't often get to see what or how others play so it was helpful.


Quality is great too.


Dan

Ditto. Good video, but it's hard for me to tell exactly what it is and how you are doing what you are doing.

[Ace Of Bass]

you should have the tab running along the bottom of the screen while you play. :p

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by el_duderino676


Ditto. Good video, but it's hard for me to tell exactly what it is and how you are doing what you are doing.

Well, I was not trying to explain anything but my hand position in that video. I will get into more detail in upcoming videos.

I wonder if I can manage to put tab at the bottom :)

[Rowka]

Maybe not run along the bottom in real time, but if you write it out for me, I can make a tab .pdf that includes standard notation for your examples.

[fivestringer200]

Good information , Good quality.........
Keep em comming !

[bottomfeeder]

Originally posted by fivestringer200
Good information , Good quality.........
Keep em comming !

+1

I like your variety of uses for the position!

[DevilRaysFan]

Hey Darkslide. I don't think we've ever talked before, so this will be my one and only post on this thread to keep posts to a minimum. Just givin' you props. Very nice.

[chris-dax]

DS - chris dax is in....

video quality is great...especially like the "down the neck" angle...

will stay tuned for further lessons....thanks... c-d

[gnccracer81]

hey where can i get these videos from?
ive never really tried slap but i wanna learn as much as i can bout playing bass

[Dark Slide]

Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted a new vid yet. I JUST started school again this week and the day I was supposed to start my psych class, I found out my advisor fucked everything up and I can't take it... so I got droped in a Sociology class that is REALLY confusing. There were 20 questions posted on the messageboard the FIRST day about people not understanding what we were supposed to do, etc etc.

I will get into the swing of things soon enough though, and will try to get the next vid posted soon. Going to be on basic right hand technique and the 3 basic elements of slapping.

Bonus points for who can tell me what they are? :) Just for fun.

[timmerz]

Well, there's the obvious, so I'll start there...
Hopefully this will be in the range of what you're looking to hear....

1) Thumb strike/slap

2) Finger(s) pop

3) Hammer-on's from left hand?

This should give you an idea of just exactly how much slapping knowlege I DON'T have!

LOLOLOL!!!

Looking forward to hearing the actual correct answers, of course!

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by timmerz
Well, there's the obvious, so I'll start there...
Hopefully this will be in the range of what you're looking to hear....

1) Thumb strike/slap

2) Finger(s) pop

3) Hammer-on's from left hand?

This should give you an idea of just exactly how much slapping knowlege I DON'T have!

LOLOLOL!!!

Looking forward to hearing the actual correct answers, of course!

That is what I was looking for, and the first 2 are correct, but in my opinion, the 3rd is incorrect.

[Fran da Man]

3 basic?
1)Slap, doublethumb, etc.

2) Pop, chord popping, double stop

3) all i can think of for this is Palm mute for the ultra high frequency or strum for chordial work.

Is i close?

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by Fran da Man
3 basic?
1)Slap, doublethumb, etc.

2) Pop, chord popping, double stop

3) all i can think of for this is Palm mute for the ultra high frequency or strum for chordial work.

Is i close?

Muting. Yeah. Muting, ghost notes and that sort of thing.

I don't think some people realize exactly how important that is, and it's actually a huge part of it.

If someone asked me to play a slap line, I couldn't do it. Even the song at the start of the video I posted is full of muted notes.

[Fran da Man]

Cool, sometimes called dead notes or a precussive attack, i sometimes use either hand for them, pat the strings with the left for a deeper bumph rather than a clickish bumph.
With a palm mute pop you can get that high freq. squeal like a g**tar.









bumph :D

[Bassius]

would it be cool if i did a video or two?

[Rowka]

Hey!!!!
Start your own thread.
:mad:

[Rowka]

Just kidding, man.:thu:

That would be awesome.

[justinbass]

Bassius - I can't imagine MORE instructional videos being unwanted. I'm greatful to see one person doing this. Two or more would be awesome.

My .02

[Bassius]

Originally posted by Rowka
Hey!!!!
Start your own thread.
:mad:

i dont want to step on toes...

[tylytle]

Let him teach us slap. You can teach us something else.

Might ask him how he feels..

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by Bassius
would it be cool if i did a video or two?

I'm all set I think, thanks.

[Bassius]

Originally posted by Dark Slide


I'm all set I think, thanks.

I guess that's a "no"?


oh well

cool vid btw

[kingtimot]

Originally posted by justinbass
Bassius - I can't imagine MORE instructional videos being unwanted. I'm greatful to see one person doing this. Two or more would be awesome.

My .02

+1

[brake]

Originally posted by Bassius


I guess that's a "no"?


oh well

cool vid btw



do one! i'd love to see it.

[Bassius]

Originally posted by brake




do one! i'd love to see it.

i could send you one i guess

[sk8g0at]

i'd be interested in seeing some how to video's. i liked your test video.

[tylytle]

Originally posted by brake




do one! i'd love to see it.

+1

Wouldn't be stepping on toes as long as you stay away from the slapping he is doing.

I say go for it.

[niomosy]

Originally posted by Bassius


i could send you one i guess

Add me to your list :)

Maybe you should start a thread?

[rikb@ss]

Dark Slide:

Cool video. Well Done. Thanks.

Never seen the strumming or thumb popping thing before. That is totally cool.

Thanks for the inspiration to learn something new!

[bleepo]

Originally posted by niomosy


Add me to your list :)

Maybe you should start a thread?

[Hunter6]

Yeah, you should start a thread too Bassius.

It can't hurt to have more, eh?



Good job on the video DS.

[Fireball_73]

Funny thing is, in the past week, when I've put my mind to it just a teensy little bit more, I have all of a sudden without even trying acheived quite a bit of progress with slap. I can't slap anything really complicated. I can incorporate a bit more slap into my fingerstyle bass lines when I feel like it. I'm more comfortable overall. I'm not properly versatile with slap, but I can feel progress.

And I think it was all down to a subtle "get ur arse into gear slapping hands" from my brain after reading this thread! Thanks! :thu: :)

I'm not even going to try any of the amazing suff at the moment... just giving it some time first. :wave:

[headway]

would it be cool if i did a video or two?

why would he not wan't you to do your own. hell you could start a thread where everyone could share video showing technique.

[Fran da Man]

Originally posted by Bassius


I guess that's a "no"?


oh well

cool vid btw Reading it the first time, i thought maybe you took it wrong Denson.
Reading it the second time, i thought maybe you're right.
Reading it a third time...i don't know what the hell it means :confused:

[Bassius]

Originally posted by Fran da Man
Reading it the first time, i thought maybe you took it wrong Denson.
Reading it the second time, i thought maybe you're right.
Reading it a third time...i don't know what the hell it means :confused:

lol


well

bassius: Would it be cool if i did a video or two?

DS: I'm all set i think, thanks

(which to me is nice for saying, uhm no, i dont want your crappy vids in my thread or i dont need help or whatever)
If i took it wrong then oh well. if i'm right then i'm staying out of this thread with vids.

I know a bunch of you want a video thread...maybe i'll make an upright bass technique video. or something...double thumping maybe?

we'll see...

[vanlatte]

Originally posted by Bassius


lol


well

bassius: Would it be cool if i did a video or two?

DS: I'm all set i think, thanks

(which to me is nice for saying, uhm no, i dont want your crappy vids in my thread or i dont need help or whatever)
If i took it wrong then oh well. if i'm right then i'm staying out of this thread with vids.

I know a bunch of you want a video thread...maybe i'll make an upright bass technique video. or something...double thumping maybe?

we'll see...

Yes! Please, just start another thread already!

Since you first asked you have gotten SIX responses saying "Yes Bassius, start another thread"!

Whenever I get a notification that this thread has been updated I am hoping to see another video or something useful, but it's just you talking to yourself. :rolleyes:

So go make a thread and post your videos already!

[fivestringer200]

would post a video .... Ive been waiting for a week now !

[Bassius]

Originally posted by vanlatte


Yes! Please, just start another thread already!

Since you first asked you have gotten SIX responses saying "Yes Bassius, start another thread"!

Whenever I get a notification that this thread has been updated I am hoping to see another video or something useful, but it's just you talking to yourself. :rolleyes:

So go make a thread and post your videos already!

LOL ok i will tonight!!

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by fivestringer200
would post a video .... Ive been waiting for a week now !

Sorry, I started school and I am trying to get into the swing of things. I should have time this weekend I think. I'll get some stuff up.

I am going to cover slapping, popping, muting or ghost notes... probably a little bit in popping with more than one finger and it's applications. I'll also do some basic exercises and how to apply them into music.

That is the plan. Sorry for the wait.

[niomosy]

They just don't make cyborgs like they used to :(








:p :D

[chunkathalon]

Originally posted by Dark Slide


Sorry, I started school and I am trying to get into the swing of things. I should have time this weekend I think. I'll get some stuff up.

I am going to cover slapping, popping, muting or ghost notes... probably a little bit in popping with more than one finger and it's applications. I'll also do some basic exercises and how to apply them into music.

That is the plan. Sorry for the wait.
No rush DS... after you post them we can use them for a long time and stuff.
:)

[bottomfeeder]

Take the time you need to make the video the way you want. Everyone should be willing to wait sionce you are doing this out of kindness for all of us.:D

[T. Alan Smith]

Cool vid. Looking forward to the next.

[ToeJamFootball]

why havent i clicked on this thread yet?:confused:

thanks DS, i cant check the video out yet, but once my ADSL2 is hooked up i will for sure.

[T-40]

I just watched that first vid.
Back to a pick for my no talent ass.

[Onkel Bob]

Just one suggestion: It'd be nice if you edited the original post to include links to video(s). I'm lazy and don't want to have to go through the entire thread to find the video(s).

[ToeJamFootball]

Originally posted by Onkel Bob
Just one suggestion: It'd be nice if you edited the original post to include links to video(s). I'm lazy and don't want to have to go through the entire thread to find the video(s).

it sin the second page i think

[Onkel Bob]

Originally posted by ToeJamFootball


it sin the second page i think

But now it's in the very first post.

[ToeJamFootball]

Originally posted by Onkel Bob


But now it's in the very first post.

whatever trever!

[RockStarBassist]

Just dl'ded the first vid. We have very similar slap/strum techniques (for when I need it) as I learned most of all that stuff on my own from watching Primus vids.

This is a good thread. I'll be working on that triplet stuff. Always wondered how Dickens did that.

[ryhon]

hey darkslide...just wondering what your EQ settings are on your musicman...for your slap in the vid...(i have a similar set up bass I have a Warwick FNA Jazzman...) also wondering what type of strings your using...(don't need to know amp or that, just your bass eq and strings thanks...

[ryhon]

Ok can anyone take a stab at a great slap EQ on a humbucker such as my FNA Jazzman or the Stingray??!???:confused:

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by ryhon
hey darkslide...just wondering what your EQ settings are on your musicman...for your slap in the vid...(i have a similar set up bass I have a Warwick FNA Jazzman...) also wondering what type of strings your using...(don't need to know amp or that, just your bass eq and strings thanks...

Hey there,

I am using some super cheap strings. I forget what they are. I got 5 sets of 5 strings for like $30. I use whatever is cheapest when I go to buy em.

I had no EQ. I was running straight into my computer.

[vanlatte]

Bass solo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYbrORmJ5I&mode=related&search=slap%20bass%20tapping)

That first rythm...is he doing all the popping with the thumb only? Its hard to tell in the video.

:confused:

[Jazz Ad]

There are a lot of tricks in it and it isn't extremelly complicated, even in the tapping part.

The basic move is left pointer 3rd fret E string with 1st joint on 2nd fret G string.
Left middle finger fingering on 5th fret E string.
He slaps with his thumb and pops G string with his middle finger it seems.
In the end he slaps E and pops A.

[tdempsey]

great video Dark Slide.

when you find the time to do more, please remember to go slowly, so the new concepts are understood before you execute at your blazing speed.

i can't tell you how worthwhile this is.

thanks!

[vanlatte]

Thanks JA! I would love to see moves like this broken down for us slow learners; I checked the DS video thread and didnt see anything like this. Are there any instructional vids. that cover this sort of thing?

[Dark Slide]

not too complicated. At least I don't think so. The framerate makes it hard to tell, he may be doing some double thumb stuff, but if he is, it's just for flash, because it isn't needed.

I actualy have time today, and I will make a quick video of this, and then move onto the next video in my bunch.

[Dark Slide]

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/vanslappe.wmv

There you go. That should be pretty close.

I THINK the reason it's hard to tell what he is doing is because he is popping with his middle finger and not his index. Watch him closely.

Edit: I will make another quick video because it's possible that he is double thumbing the thumb part. So I can show you that.

[mrcrow]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
http://hatredalive.com/nicks/vanslappe.wmv

There you go. That should be pretty close.

I THINK the reason it's hard to tell what he is doing is because he is popping with his middle finger and not his index. Watch him closely.

Edit: I will make another quick video because it's possible that he is double thumbing the thumb part. So I can show you that.


ferukin brilliant...i got a ray 5 now..do i need to grow a beard...
seriously you have shown me whats what in that department...cool:thu:

[Dark Slide]

Ok, this is how it would be played with a double thumb. I had to increase the brightness of the video, so it may look a little off.

I tried to change my hand position closer to what his is what is REALLY awkward for me, but hopefully makes it easier to see what he is doing.

I think in at least one section (If not the whole video) he is doing some double thumb and this is how it's done. If you can't play double thumb, refer to the first video as there is no real need for it.

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/vanslappe2.wmv

[Richy]

Many thanks Dark Slide, I think I know how the rest of my day will be spent!

[vanlatte]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
http://hatredalive.com/nicks/vanslappe.wmv

There you go. That should be pretty close.

I THINK the reason it's hard to tell what he is doing is because he is popping with his middle finger and not his index. Watch him closely.

Edit: I will make another quick video because it's possible that he is double thumbing the thumb part. So I can show you that.


Wow, you rock DS...thanks for that.

*runs off to embarass himself trying to play this*

[timmerz]

Originally posted by mrcrow


ferukin brilliant...i got a ray 5 now..do i need to grow a beard...
seriously you have shown me whats what in that department...cool:thu:

Outstanding!! You got that 'Ray!!
Welcome to the family! How you liking it so far?

[vanlatte]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
http://hatredalive.com/nicks/vanslappe.wmv




Ha, I just noticed the name of the file...

vanslappe


:D

Maybe someday I will live up to that name...thanks again for taking the time to do this.

And darn you for your seemingly endless amounts of talent!

[bholder]

Wow. You guys are giving me some hope that someday I might finally be able to slap! :D

[Dark Slide]

Ok, I finished the second video... but it's like 16 minutes long and almost 100 megs. Any suggestions? I can't host it all myself, it will kill the bandwidth. Yourtube wont hold it because it's too long. I can try Myspace, but myspace tends to be slow.

I could compress it more, but I think it needs to be reasonably high quality so people can see what is happening.

[vanlatte]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
Ok, I finished the second video... but it's like 16 minutes long and almost 100 megs. Any suggestions? I can't host it all myself, it will kill the bandwidth. Yourtube wont hold it because it's too long. I can try Myspace, but myspace tends to be slow.

I could compress it more, but I think it needs to be reasonably high quality so people can see what is happening.

No ideas here, other than maybe splitting the video into separate pieces for those other sites? That way you can keep the quality up and the file size down.

[Derek5272]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
Ok, this is how it would be played with a double thumb. I had to increase the brightness of the video, so it may look a little off.

I tried to change my hand position closer to what his is what is REALLY awkward for me, but hopefully makes it easier to see what he is doing.

I think in at least one section (If not the whole video) he is doing some double thumb and this is how it's done. If you can't play double thumb, refer to the first video as there is no real need for it.

http://hatredalive.com/nicks/vanslappe2.wmv

Do you ever double thumb, or are you able to get all the speed you need just smacking the strings like in the first video? I find it really hard/awkward to try to get good speed without double thumbing.

[Dark Slide]

Originally posted by Derek5272


Do you ever double thumb, or are you able to get all the speed you need just smacking the strings like in the first video? I find it really hard/awkward to try to get good speed without double thumbing.

I do double thumb however it's gone downhill quite a bit because I prefer the thumb pop and that is how my style has evolved.

But I have no problem with the speed in the first video. Actually, it's a bit slow...

[vanlatte]

Originally posted by Dark Slide


I do double thumb however it's gone downhill quite a bit because I prefer the thumb pop and that is how my style has evolved.

But I have no problem with the speed in the first video. Actually, it's a bit slow...

I tried both methods, the first one is definatly more "natural" to me and came a lot easier. The double thumb is going to take some work, but based on your two videos I am not sure it's even worth it since the first technique just feels better to me.


Amazing how simple this is when it gets broken down like this...!

[Dark Slide]

Video 2 is being posted, the first part is up, the second part will be up as soon as I am done uploading it.

Any requests for information, more details, specific things to be addressed in the next video, etc, can be posted here.

[vanlatte]

Originally posted by Dark Slide
Video 2 is being posted, the first part is up, the second part will be up as soon as I am done uploading it.

Any requests for information, more details, specific things to be addressed in the next video, etc, can be posted here.

Ok here is an idea; how about the rest of that video I asked about, he changes from the techniuqe that you showed us to something else...?

[fivestringer200]

You da man !
Thank you

[Phyrexian]

Great videos. Thanks!

[el_duderino676]

Originally posted by Phyrexian
Great videos. Thanks!

Word. You are the man. :thu: