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elinto
07-20-2006, 08:22 PM
ok i want to get all new cymbals for my drumset but i dont know which ones to get. im into mostly rock and hard rock and i dont want to spend a ton of money...anyone got some suggestions
BBDrums
07-20-2006, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by elinto
ok i want to get all new cymbals for my drumset but i dont know which ones to get. im into mostly rock and hard rock and i dont want to spend a ton of money...anyone got some suggestions
Its all preference. start with a stick and the first cymbal of many... and hit away.
ArtVandelay
07-20-2006, 08:33 PM
Try any one of these brands:
Sabian
Zildjian
Paiste
Meinl
Bosphorus
Istanbul Mehmet
Istanbul Agop
UFIP
Stagg
Majoria
07-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Price aside, I'd start with these lines for rock & hard rock:
Zildjian A Custom
Sabian HHX Evolution (not HHX Legacy)
Some Zildjian A
Possibly Zildjian Z
Haven't heard anything from Paiste or other brands recently that jumped out at me for your style.
Go to a music store that has a large cymbal selection and start with the above but definately try everything they have. What jumps out at you may be different than anyone on this forum.
I haven't been impressed with any recent economy priced cymbals so I can't help in that way. After trying out the selection from a store and keeping track of what you liked, try finding some used. But if you go that route, check carefully for cracks.
twosticks
07-20-2006, 10:29 PM
I guess you're really asking what cymbals are good for rock and hard rock since you already have a drumset.
As far what brands are good, I would agree with Art. The brands he mentioned are ones that have enough quality control to maintain a certain level of cymbal that lasts or has the sound you want.
Here are just a few ideas......
I would have one regular crash (15"16"17") and one bigger crash (18"19") Zild A's or Sabian AA's (these I know about)
Something that's somewhat bright and cuts through. (can beef up the sound by getting medium or MAYBE med.-thin weight but NO thin cymbals, they might crack)
No 'dark' cymbals either, won't heard them past the stage in a hard rock band. High hats would be about the same. 'cept maybe heavier weight. med weight top and heavy bottom unless you like 13" hats then maybe heavy on top and bottom.
Something with not just a good "chick" sound but a good "chunk" sound and that sounds good played loose and what I call "slushy" sounding.
Maybe a 20"-21" ride with clear defined bell sound and a medium in- between sound in the middle. Maybe a rock, dry or classic type ride. Something with volume but something you can control at the same time. Last maybe a rock splash or effect cymbal. Maybe a China
BUT, BUT cymbals are very much like your shoes, only you know what feels and sounds good to you. You've got to shop, play and listen. You don't just grab a pair of shoes off the shelf and wear them, you try them and walk around.
Same with cymbals, 'cept with the latter you're spending around $1,000 or more! So play all kinds and listen.
You may try a dark, paper thin, low volume that works for you. Best to test drive many models until you hear the sound you like......my 2 cents....
Hope it helps...
rockbeat
07-20-2006, 11:10 PM
IMHO for quality cymbals and a decent price Zildjian A's are hard to beat.
12OzEpilogue
07-20-2006, 11:26 PM
paiste
elinto
07-21-2006, 07:22 AM
alright thanks
Hey rock beat is that a picture of Ian Paice?
47milesbarbwire
07-24-2006, 08:07 AM
1. Grab a stick out of your stick bag
2. Go to the music store
3. Close your eyes
4. Pick the cymbals that sound best to you
5. Pay the man
6. Repeat as necessary
7. Enjoy.
:)
rockbeat
07-24-2006, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by ade
Hey rock beat is that a picture of Ian Paice?
That would be correct, sir. :thu:
danny0816
07-25-2006, 07:13 AM
heres what i've learned.
as far as brand, its all up to you. Honestly, i think that alot of it is hype; while there are differences in sound, a zildjian A custom and a paiste signiture will both sound decent in a band; its not like one will fit beautifully and one will be obvious crap.
That said, some will sound better to you/your playing style/your band. BUT...ive learned that buying cheap is not such a hot idea. Cymbals are played just as much, if not more, then some of your drums, so sound is very important. But you can't change the sounds, or tune, or "take the ring" outta cymbals like you can with a shell.
I recently bought a saluda crash cymbal. now dont get me wrong; for what i paid, its a great deal. If your just starting out, or really dont have the money to spend, there isnt a cymbal brand i would recommend more. check them out here (www.saludadrum.com). BUT...they just arent on the same line as something like paiste.
If your really serious about getting good and helping your band get somewhere, i would spend as much as possible. not...irresponsibly, but do your homework and find what works for you. Reading reviews of cymbals is a great way to get in the ball park of what you, then go play.
Dont go cheap, go smart. The $250 paiste is gonna cost less than the $150 brand x and then the 250 paiste you eventually decide you want.