View Full Version : lacquer vs oil for guitar finishing
peteloaf
05-04-2006, 05:19 PM
i'm building a nice elctric guitar in walnut at the mo, it's quite light and well figured and i want to keep it FAIRLY light ( a little tonlly darker than now even with the darkening that occurs from putting clear stain on taken into account) i'm wondering. do i grain fill sand and oil, and have a nice-feeling finish i can re-do with ease or should i go for a nitrocellulose or a poly lacquer and shine the bitch up? it's sorta halway between a lp and a prs tremonti shape.
Bruce Bennett
05-04-2006, 06:17 PM
personally I'm a big fan of Oiled finishes.
AMZ-FX
05-04-2006, 06:43 PM
I second the oiled finish recommendation... I have an LP that has a walnut body and the oiled finish looks good on it.
regards, Jack
ThomasD
05-04-2006, 10:23 PM
Walnut and oil are made for each other. Be sure to use a grain fill that is compatible with an oil finish. Alternately you could skip a separate filling operation and use an oil based product that will also build and fill the grain - e.g. Tru-Oil. Another option would be to omit the grain fill entirely and go with a light tung oil finish, this leaves a satin, very natural look to the wood. Some like it, some don't, I think it's great as long as you don't have a glossy finish elsewhere on the guitar (like the headstock.)
code_blue
05-05-2006, 12:22 AM
Don't mess it up!
mumford
05-05-2006, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by ThomasD
Alternately you could skip a separate filling operation and use an oil based product that will also build and fill the grain - e.g. Tru-Oil.
Also, you can build up Tru-Oil to the point you have a very shiny, lacquer-looking finish. It is very easy to use, but you need to do a ton of coats and they take a long time to dry. But great results if you spend the time.
peteloaf
05-05-2006, 10:19 AM
cool. so general consensus is oil then? i'd heard about tru-oil in a guitar makin book, is it a generic name for a product or a specific manufacturer's name for something? (where/who etc)
mumford
05-05-2006, 11:57 AM
I believe it's a type of oil. Go to a sporting goods store, they sell it for gun stocks.
Dropped_2_C
05-05-2006, 02:19 PM
tung oil finish:thu:
RoboPimp
05-05-2006, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Bruce Bennett
personally I'm a big fan of Oiled finishes.
+1
guitarcapo
05-07-2006, 08:11 AM
I recommend this:
Order some shellac flakes online. You want orange shellac. Don't worry whether it's dewaxed or not.
Dissolve the flakes in alchohol from the hardware store. I typically fill the jar half full and then pour in alchohol to the top.
Get an old t-shirt and wipe the stuff onto your guitar. If the finish starts sticking to the cloth, use walnut oil as a lubricant.
After you've built up a bit of finish, go over the guitar with 0000 steel wool to make the finish a uniform satin.
Buff from here with rubbing compound and a buffing wheel if you want gloss.
http://members.aol.com/guitarcapo/tele2.jpg http://members.aol.com/guitarcapo/tele3.jpg
speed_12
08-02-2006, 08:10 AM
Well....i literally just posted a reply on another thread about whether to do a French Polish/Oil or poly varnish finish on my Tele project....the picture above has just made me decide on an oil/shellac finish....that looks awesome!!!
bowlingshirt
08-02-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by ThomasD
Another option would be to omit the grain fill entirely and go with a light tung oil finish, this leaves a satin, very natural look to the wood.
I did this on a project last summer and was pleased with the result; both for looks and ease of use.
An oil finish may not protect a guitar as well as a lacquer finish, but a guitar with an oil finish is easy to repair if you do get a ding on it. Also, IMHO, and oil finish lets the natural characteristics of the wood sound through, as opposed to lacquer or paint.